[Bug 1624644] Re: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software.

2017-10-04 Thread Brian Murray
I reported bug 1721364 regarding the Never-MarkAuto-Sections issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1624644 Title: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically

[Bug 1624644] Re: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software.

2017-10-04 Thread Iain Lane
** Changed in: gnome-software (Ubuntu Artful) Status: New => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1624644 Title: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to

[Bug 1624644] Re: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software.

2017-10-03 Thread Brian Murray
Well this does work in Trusty, Ubuntu 14.04, perhaps this is a regression in support "Never-MarkAuto-Sections"? One thing to note is that using 'apt-mark' I saw that vino was marked as manual on Ubuntu 14.04, but automatic on Ubuntu 16.04. -- You received this bug notification because you are a

[Bug 1624644] Re: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software.

2017-09-29 Thread Francis Ginther
** Tags added: id-597a833ca49ff66291d34705 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1624644 Title: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that

[Bug 1624644] Re: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software.

2017-09-27 Thread Julian Andres Klode
There were like 3 versions of metapackage auto removal, I don't remember exactly. I think in the beginning, we just autoremovef everything. Then we did not mark packages as automatically installed if installed by a meta package. Then we moved to moving the auto bit on uninstall, but maybe only

Re: [Bug 1624644] Re: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software.

2017-09-27 Thread Brian Murray
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 08:36:13PM -, Balint Reczey wrote: > On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Julian Andres Klode > wrote: > > Hmm, I thought we would not do that anymore, and packages get marked as > > manual when removing a meta package, but I might be missing

Re: [Bug 1624644] Re: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software.

2017-09-27 Thread Balint Reczey
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 2:42 PM, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > Hmm, I thought we would not do that anymore, and packages get marked as > manual when removing a meta package, but I might be missing something. I ran this on zesty, but if meta packages are handled differently

[Bug 1624644] Re: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software.

2017-09-27 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Hmm, I thought we would not do that anymore, and packages get marked as manual when removing a meta package, but I might be missing something. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1624644

Re: [Bug 1624644] Re: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software.

2017-09-27 Thread Balint Reczey
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Brian Murray wrote: > @Balint re "@Jarno: IMO Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies > is already a risky option and I don't recommend enabling it because it > may remove packages which are not used according the to package- > dependency

[Bug 1624644] Re: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software.

2017-09-27 Thread Brian Murray
@Balint re "@Jarno: IMO Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies is already a risky option and I don't recommend enabling it because it may remove packages which are not used according the to package- dependency chain but which users rely on using software that is not packaged." Could you

[Bug 1624644] Re: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software.

2017-09-27 Thread Brian Murray
The get_auto_removable function in unattended-ugprades just checks to see if the package has the "is_auto_removable" flag set. So setting "Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies" to "true" will produce the same outcome as using "sudo apt autoremove" e.g.: bdmurray@clean-xenial-amd64:~$

[Bug 1624644] Re: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software.

2017-09-23 Thread Jarno Suni
Anyway, in my view Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies "true"; would be the default setting to have now, and advanced users should mark the dependencies of their unpackaged software as "manual". -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 1624644] Re: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software.

2017-09-22 Thread Jarno Suni
It will remove the third newest kernel, but later, when the one you installed by "apt install" will become third newest, it will not be removed automatically. That is by design. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.

Re: [Bug 1624644] Re: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software.

2017-09-21 Thread Brian Murray
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 02:03:41PM -, Jarno Suni wrote: > Brian, however, as you installed the kernel by apt-get install, the > kernel becomes manually installed, and will not later be removed by > 'sudo apt autoremove', unless you change it to be marked as > automatically installed. No, this

[Bug 1624644] Re: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software.

2017-09-21 Thread Jarno Suni
Brian, however, as you installed the kernel by apt-get install, the kernel becomes manually installed, and will not later be removed by 'sudo apt autoremove', unless you change it to be marked as automatically installed. I question the use of 'sudo apt autoremove' in this case. If its action was

[Bug 1624644] Re: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software.

2017-09-20 Thread Brian Murray
I found the description somewhat confusing because 'Unattended-Upgrade ::Remove-New-Unused-Dependencies "true"; doesn't actually exist in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades, rather that's the default setting in unattended-upgrades since 0.90. Regardless, I was able to recreate the issue on

[Bug 1624644] Re: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software.

2017-09-20 Thread Jarno Suni
** Tags added: full-boot -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1624644 Title: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in

[Bug 1624644] Re: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software.

2017-09-17 Thread Jarno Suni
E.g. Apt could have --autoremove-new option which would work with apt and apt-get -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1624644 Title: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to

[Bug 1624644] Re: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software.

2017-09-17 Thread Jarno Suni
** Description changed: - When using default settings for unattended-upgrades i.e. + When using default settings for unattended-upgrade i.e. Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies "false"; # default "false" Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-New-Unused-Dependencies "true"; # default

[Bug 1624644] Re: By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software.

2017-09-17 Thread Jarno Suni
** Summary changed: - Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software + By default settings unattended-upgrade is unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software. ** Description