[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2018-03-23 Thread Vasiliy via ubuntu-bugs
Mans, are you crazy?
Firefox don't compile, so we decide add Pulseaudio for ALL USERS OF LUBUNTU. 
It's not your choice. It's our systems, and we don't like Pulseaudio. Because 
this we use Lubuntu. Lightweight distro for servers and old workstations (from 
Pentium 3 700 Mhz, yes). 
Your decision is wrong. You must recompile firefox with Alsa support, because 
you maintainers, and Mozilla team says that maintainers must support alsa, if 
they want. You want. Because Lubuntu is Pulseaudio-free distro. 
I not asking you, not begging. Because you not asked thousands and millions 
users of Lubuntu about this piece of Pulse. Just do it.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-12-06 Thread Tiago Pimenta
Indeed, now it brings pavucontrol as expected, but there still are the 
dependency problem filed here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound-gtk2/+bug/1734100

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-12-05 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package lubuntu-meta - 0.65.3

---
lubuntu-meta (0.65.3) xenial; urgency=medium

  * Refreshed dependencies
  * Added pavucontrol to desktop (LP: #1710993)
  * Add Breaks to make sure this update lands at the same time as
lubuntu-default-settings and indicator-sound-gtk2

 -- Simon Quigley   Tue, 31 Oct 2017 22:26:24 -0500

** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: Incomplete => Fix Released

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-12-05 Thread Chris Halse Rogers
Hm, what's happening here?

I see lubuntu-meta 0.65.3 in xenial-proposed claiming to fix this bug,
but no record on this bug of a 0.65.3 upload. Is lubuntu-meta 0.65.3 the
version that has been tested?

** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial)
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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-11-24 Thread Tiago Pimenta
On the first dist-upgrade on post #46 where I put the argument -s
consider being -y.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-11-24 Thread Tiago Pimenta
There was no /etc/apt/apt.conf file and none of the files on
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d has any Install-Recommends configuration, so that I
hope you could review the dependencies considering recommended packages
as targets of being installed after a upgrade.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-11-24 Thread Tiago Pimenta
As I suspected, I was right, to reproduce what I get I did:

$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo apt-mark hold lubuntu-default-settings
$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -s
# sudo apt-mark unhold lubuntu-default-settings
$ LANG= apt-get dist-upgrade -s > /tmp/normal-dist-upgrade-s
$ LANG= apt-get dist-upgrade -s --no-install-recommends > 
/tmp/dist-upgrade-s--no-install-recommends

Result running normal apt-get dist-upgrade:
https://pastebin.com/TvQ736xJ

Result running apt-get dist-upgrade with --no-install-recommends:
https://pastebin.com/scS5iATN

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-11-24 Thread Tiago Pimenta
Simon, I am highly inclined to believe Lubuntu does indeed install
recommends packages, otherwise we would'nt be having all these problems,
I will do another clean installation on qemu to confirm that for you as
soon as possible.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-11-23 Thread Simon Quigley
I've had a think about this and will look into the dependency problem
because I'm seriously wondering what the heck is going on...

All I can tell you right now is that it wouldn't be Recommends because
Lubuntu doesn't pull those in.

I'll update this bug when I have something.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-11-23 Thread Tiago Pimenta
As I suspected I found the problem, indicator-sound-gtk2 recommends
unity-control-center, as apt-get also install recommended packages it
get installed, then it depends on libcheese8, and libcheese8 depends on
cheese-common, and so the shit is done...

I filed the bug here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound-gtk2/+bug/1734100

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-11-23 Thread Tiago Pimenta
I believe the problem is not with pulseaudio, and with indicator-sound-
gtk2, as Simon stated, it is not lubuntu-meta problem:

apt-cache show lubuntu-core lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-default-settings |
awk '$1 == "Version:" { version = $2 } $1 == "Package:" { package = $2 }
$1 == "Depends:" || $1 == "Recommends:" { for (i = 2; i <= NF; i++) {
sub(/,$/, "", $i); print $i >> "/tmp/" package "-" version } }'

diff -iuw /tmp/lubuntu-core-0.65 /tmp/lubuntu-core-0.65.2 # 
+xserver-xorg-video-intel nothing relevant
diff -iuw /tmp/lubuntu-desktop-0.65 /tmp/lubuntu-desktop-0.65.2 # +pulseaudio
diff -iuw /tmp/lubuntu-default-settings-0.46 
/tmp/lubuntu-default-settings-0.46.1 # +indicator-sound-gtk2

As I said on post #30 when updating just lubuntu-core and lubuntu-
desktop it brings few packages, so that is why I believe the problem is
with indicator-sound-gtk2.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-11-22 Thread Raycho Raykov
Ok, my fault! Tiago Pimmenta already pointed on that problem on post
#30.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-11-22 Thread Raycho Raykov
Thanks, Simon Quigley. How I dare to think it's your problem at first
place. Shame on me.

The real question behind everything in my post you quoted is that you
avoid: Why pulseaudio requires cheese and evolution. Do I (or anyone
else) expect to hear a sound from the speakers of the computer without
these programs? What about unity-control-center and other unity-*? Where
are kde-control-center, cinnamon-control-center and whatever? Where are
my beloved apple-control-center or windows-control-center packages? How
may I hear anything without the Bill's smile on my screen?

One of reasons for me (and many others) to choose lubuntu instead of
Ubuntu is low system requirements.

I write my previos post not to tell anyone what is his problems but to
focus attention on something wrong in my point of view. So I don't
understand why you need to point here what is not your problem. If it is
God's (pulseaudio's) will, who am I to argue with?! Let it be!

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-11-22 Thread Simon Quigley
> I don't need these.

These have already been installed by default on every future release,
and are pulled in by pulseaudio.

> Maybe you need to reconsider dependencies of this package.

That's not our problem.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-11-22 Thread Raycho Raykov
Updating ubuntu-default-settings to 0.46.1 requires also to install
these packages:

--
  apg bluez-obexd cheese-common cups-pk-helper dconf-cli evolution-data-server 
evolution-data-server-common evolution-data-server-online-accounts geoclue
  geoclue-ubuntu-geoip gir1.2-ibus-1.0 gkbd-capplet gnome-bluetooth 
gnome-desktop3-data gnome-session-bin gnome-settings-daemon-schemas 
gnome-user-share
  gsettings-ubuntu-schemas gstreamer1.0-clutter-3.0 gstreamer1.0-x hwdata ibus 
indicator-bluetooth indicator-datetime indicator-keyboard indicator-power
  indicator-sound indicator-sound-gtk2 libaccounts-glib0 libaccounts-qt5-1 
libcanberra-pulse libcheese-gtk25 libcheese8 libclutter-gst-3.0-0 
libebackend-1.2-10
  libebook-1.2-16 libebook-contacts-1.2-2 libecal-1.2-19 libedata-book-1.2-25 
libedata-cal-1.2-28 libedataserver-1.2-21 libfftw3-single3 libgee-0.8-2
  libgeocode-glib0 libgeonames0 libgnome-bluetooth13 libgnome-desktop-3-12 
libgnomekbd-common libgnomekbd8 libgweather-3-6 libgweather-common libibus-1.0-5
  libido-0.1-0 libpulsedsp libsignon-extension1 libsignon-glib1 
libsignon-plugins-common1 libsignon-qt5-1 libtimezonemap-data libtimezonemap1
  libunity-control-center1 libunity-settings-daemon1 liburl-dispatcher1 
libwebrtc-audio-processing-0 mousetweaks nautilus-data pulseaudio 
pulseaudio-module-x11
  pulseaudio-utils rtkit session-migration signon-plugin-password signon-ui 
signon-ui-service signon-ui-x11 signond ubuntu-system-service 
ubuntu-touch-sounds
  unity-control-center unity-control-center-faces unity-settings-daemon
---

I don't need these. Maybe you need to reconsider dependencies of this
package. Why cheese or evolution packages are required to solve problem
with alsa mixer or pulse audio.

I'm using currently ESR version of Firefox, which works fine with my
audio.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-11-16 Thread Tiago Pimenta
I managed to make my sound work installing pavucontrol, running it, and
adjusting the sound volume and devices, but as I said I am still not
able to do it via tray icon. And it is not expected the user known it is
required to install anything apart after a upgrade.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-11-16 Thread Tiago Pimenta
Hello,

Something went wrong today!

It seems all packages were upgraded as expected but pavucontrol:

$ dpkg-query -l | egrep 
'lubuntu-(core|default-settings)|indicator-sound-gtk2|pavucontrol'
ii  indicator-sound-gtk2   12.10.0.1-0ubuntu5.16.04.1   
  amd64System sound indicator.
ii  lubuntu-core   0.65.2   
  amd64Lubuntu Desktop environment - minimal installation
ii  lubuntu-default-settings   0.46.1   
  all  default settings for Lubuntu

If only it was only pavucontrol the problem I would consider a minor
problem, but I do not know why, despite all versions had matched the
required, it still show the old sound control, and my sound got muted.

There is the pulseaudio process running, so I believe the mixer control
is muted, but as I said it is not shown at tray icons, not the simpler
one neither the pavucontrol, which was not even installed.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-11-14 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package indicator-sound-gtk2 -
12.10.0.1-0ubuntu5.16.04.1

---
indicator-sound-gtk2 (12.10.0.1-0ubuntu5.16.04.1) xenial; urgency=medium

  * Add compatibility for Lubuntu (LP: #1710993).

 -- Simon Quigley   Fri, 04 Aug 2017 06:30:37 -0500

** Changed in: indicator-sound-gtk2 (Ubuntu Xenial)
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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-11-14 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package lubuntu-default-settings - 0.46.1

---
lubuntu-default-settings (0.46.1) xenial; urgency=medium

  * Use the non-ALSA volume mixer (LP: #1710993).
- Add a hard dependency on indicator-sound-gtk2 to get this to work.

 -- Simon Quigley   Sat, 16 Sep 2017 18:25:46 -0500

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-11-14 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package lubuntu-meta - 0.65.2

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  * Refreshed dependencies
  * Added pulseaudio to desktop (LP: #1710993)

 -- Simon Quigley   Tue, 29 Aug 2017 00:12:42 -0500

** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

** Changed in: lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu Xenial)
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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-10-31 Thread Simon Quigley
** Tags removed: verification-needed verification-needed-xenial
** Tags added: verification-done verification-done-xenial

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-10-31 Thread Simon Quigley
> Ok, let's go.
>
> Performing just upgrade after proposed configuration gave me just 
> lubuntu-core update:
> https://pastebin.com/We1Af6eM
>
> If i perform dist-upgrade it would bring the unity stuff I had said before, I 
> simulate it here:
> https://pastebin.com/LuJtgHXD
>
> Unfortunately when I run install just for lubuntu-default-settings it brings 
> this lots of stuff:
> https://pastebin.com/mfVsU3fU
>
> The indicator also bring a plenty of packages:
> https://pastebin.com/4bpWJCCc

Not only is this expected, but these dependencies seem to exist on every
Lubuntu release past Xenial. It's fine in my opinion, and really doesn't
need much of a dependency review.

> After reboot the machine the sound worked on Firefox but the indicator
did not launched pavucontrol as I expected, it is due to no dependency
relation between any package tha could lead to pacucontrol package
installation. I still had to install it apart, after done that, the tray
icon could launch the control as expected.

You're right on this, my mistake. Great catch. I pushed an update to the
seed (I now have access) and will push an update to lubuntu-meta shortly
pulling this in. SRU team, please review this (this also has Breaks as
discussed with rbasak on IRC, because this needs an upload anyways). But
for now, indicator-sound-gtk2 is good, so I'm marking that as
verification-done-xenial.

Hopefully we can *finally* get this solved. :)

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-10-30 Thread Tiago Pimenta
Ok, let's go.

Performing just upgrade after proposed configuration gave me just lubuntu-core 
update:
https://pastebin.com/We1Af6eM

If i perform dist-upgrade it would bring the unity stuff I had said before, I 
simulate it here:
https://pastebin.com/LuJtgHXD

Unfortunately when I run install just for lubuntu-default-settings it brings 
this lots of stuff:
https://pastebin.com/mfVsU3fU

The indicator also bring a plenty of packages:
https://pastebin.com/4bpWJCCc

I do not know if lubuntu-desktop is also required to this fix, as part
of lubuntu-meta, but it bring few dependencies, nothing to worry about.

As I am running on VM I did not care about it and I performed a full
dist-upgrade, but I would care about it if I had to do it on my machine.

After reboot the machine the sound worked on Firefox but the indicator
did not launched pavucontrol as I expected, it is due to no dependency
relation between any package tha could lead to pacucontrol package
installation. I still had to install it apart, after done that, the tray
icon could launch the control as expected.

I see there is two things to be done:
* A dependency to be add to some package that could lead to the pacucontrol 
installation;
* A deep dependency review in order to clean up unity installation, as well as 
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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-10-30 Thread Robie Basak
Sorry, I saw your response scroll by on IRC but wasn't in a position to
act on it at the time. Responding in the bug would have been useful!

For reference:

12:01  tsimonq2: around? I commented on the bug.
12:02  tsimonq2: since it's possible you might want to put the Breaks 
in indicator-sound-gtk2, I don't want to accept it as-is without your comment.
12:02  tsimonq2: if you do, then it'll want adding to 
lubuntu-default-settings too I guess?
12:05  tsimonq2: aside from that your upload for indicator-sound-gtk2 
looks fine. Though I feel that the changelog message should probably mention 
the reason for the upload (Lubuntu's move to pulseaudio), I won't block on that.
12:06  tsimonq2: let me know what you want to do please.
15:50  rbasak: Breaks might be a good idea... but if any one lands 
before the other, as long as they all land within an hour or two it'll be fine
15:50  (well, within a few hours of each other)
15:52  rbasak: If you'd prefer Breaks I can upload some new packages 
in 6 or 7 hours
15:52  But yeah, good point.
15:56  tsimonq2: it can break if you have a user with the security 
pocket enabled but not updates for example.
16:00  tsimonq2: anyway, that's the potential consequence. I don't have 
a strong opinion here especially as the potential breakage isn't severe and is 
recoverable.
16:01  tsimonq2: if you want me to accept the current 
indicator-sound-gtk2 in the queue, I'd be happy to - just give me a +1 after 
you've considered the above please. 
16:01  Since I think this should be your decision.
16:21  rbasak: Since I've been the one doing Lubuntu security updates 
for Universe packages, I'm willing to deal with the consequences if needed. +1, 
please accept.


** Changed in: indicator-sound-gtk2 (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

** Tags removed: verification-done verification-done-xenial
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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-10-29 Thread Simon Quigley
I had a discussion with Robie on IRC but see nothing was reflected
here...

Would the SRU team like new uploads or not?

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-10-18 Thread Robie Basak
Fix Committed is wrong - see SRU procedure documentation. I wonder if
this is why it has been missed from review? I have looked at things
either side of this item in the queue but I don't remember why I never
considered this bug from the perspective of indicator-sound-gtk2 before.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-10-18 Thread Robie Basak
Perhaps both lubuntu-default-settings and indicator-sound-gtk2 need to
Breaks: lubuntu-meta (<< 0.65.2)? I'm not certain I've got that the
right way round. The idea is that the tools won't change to use
pavucontrol until lubuntu-meta has been updated and pulled in
pulseaudio. Users without lubuntu-meta installed would be unaffected.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-10-18 Thread Robie Basak
You asked for lubuntu-meta and lubuntu-default-settings to move to
xenial-updates at the same time. I can do that, but users aren't
guaranteed to see that at the same time (for example with phased
updates). If one breaks the other, then versioned Breaks clauses need to
be used to ensure updating ordering. Please could you confirm if this is
needed? What will happen if this doesn't happen?

Is the proposed upload to indicator-sound-gtk2 tied up in this too?

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-10-17 Thread Simon Quigley
I have personally done a dependency review and it looks fine to me...

Also, this exact thing was already done with 16.10 and on...

Lastly, indicator-sound-gtk2 was never accepted into xenial-proposed,
which has been sitting in there *for over a month*. That fixes the
problems Tiago described with the volume applet not opening pavucontrol,
and *is not a regression in lubuntu-default-settings*.

To be honest, I'm a bit frustrated... I do not want to drag this on
longer than it already has been. This is a high priority regression that
needs to get an update promptly...

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-10-17 Thread Tiago Pimenta
Ok, I was realy afraid to break my system, so I used qemu, this time the
sound works on Firefox as expected after the proposed upgrade, and the
sound icon on tray was almost correct: there is one master bar - working
properly - and a link to Sound Settings, that I suppose should lead to
more advanced settings, but it does nothing when clicked over, and still
there wasn't the pavucontrol requirement, I installed it but the Sound
Settings still do not launch nothing, it maybe misconfigured or there is
a missing requirement.

I am sad to say the proposed update bring a plenty of useless stuff, as
some unity packages, I am not sure it is safe to release these packages
without a dependency review.

Moreover, I am deeply heartbroken about this situation, as it adds a
pulseaudio process that keeps running forever, once more time the system
paying the price of a corporation's misled decision.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-10-12 Thread Simon Quigley
The fix works as intended for me.

** Tags removed: verification-needed verification-needed-xenial
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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-10-09 Thread Łukasz Zemczak
Hello Tiago, or anyone else affected,

Accepted lubuntu-default-settings into xenial-proposed. The package will
build now and be available at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source
/lubuntu-default-settings/0.46.1 in a few hours, and then in the
-proposed repository.

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If this package fixes the bug for you, please add a comment to this bug,
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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-09-30 Thread Simon Quigley
Bump?

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-09-16 Thread Simon Quigley
Modified the bug description for lubuntu-default-settings and indicator-
sound-gtk2 (indicator-sound-gtk2 needs the same fix as Zesty and Artful,
bug 1708619 for reference).

** Description changed:

  [Impact]
- 
- Users of Lubuntu 16.04 LTS are left with no sound in the default web
- browser, Firefox. This is a regression. For users with no knowledge of
- what PulseAudio even is (and even for people who *do* know what it is),
- this is not good.
+ Users of Lubuntu 16.04 LTS are left with no sound in the default web browser, 
Firefox. This is a regression. For users with no knowledge of what PulseAudio 
even is (and even for people who *do* know what it is), this is not good.
  
  [Test Case]
- 
-  1. Go to a website that plays sound in Firefox on Lubuntu 16.04. This,
- for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QfHhFlTUN8
+  1. Go to a website that plays sound in Firefox on Lubuntu 16.04. This, for 
example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QfHhFlTUN8
  
  Expected: Sound should play without having to install any additional
  software.
  
  Result: No sound is played, and the user is given a message that they
  need to install PulseAudio.
  
  [Regression Potential]
- 
- People might get mad that PulseAudio is now installed, without them
- asking (but it adds functionality, so in my opinion this update is
- needed, regardless). I see no technical regression potential, as it is
- simply adding a dependency.
+ People might get mad that PulseAudio is now installed, without them asking 
(but it adds functionality, so in my opinion this update is needed, 
regardless). I see no technical regression potential, as it is simply adding a 
dependency.
  
  [Original Description]
- 
- I am on Lubuntu, an ALSA-only system, after update Firefox to version
- 55.0.1 it started to ask for PulseAudio when playing media.
+ I am on Lubuntu, an ALSA-only system, after update Firefox to version 55.0.1 
it started to ask for PulseAudio when playing media.
  
  Reference: https://i.imgur.com/5gEnaYv.png
  
  I have initially stated the bug here: https://askubuntu.com/q/946568
  This bug also happened with Firefox 52 and were fixed on 52.0.2, it seems it 
have had returned: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1671273
+ 
+ For lubuntu-default-settings and indicator-sound-gtk2:
+ 
+ [Impact]
+ Without this fix, users are still using alsamixer after the migration to 
PulseAudio, this isn't intended as they should be using pavucontrol.
+ 
+ [Test Case]
+ Go to the panel after installing the above lubuntu-meta fix, and right click 
on the volume icon, then select Volume Settings, and it goes to alsamixer. 
After installing these fixes, clicking the icon should display a Sound icon and 
Sound Settings should go to pavucontrol.
+ 
+ [Regression Potential]
+ Little to none, as this has been applied in all releases after Lubuntu 16.04 
LTS. The only regression would occur when launching pavucontrol (as shown and 
fixed in bug 1708619, the fix is in indicator-sound-gtk2).

** No longer affects: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial)

** No longer affects: lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu Xenial)

** Also affects: indicator-sound-gtk2 (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: indicator-sound-gtk2 (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Fix Released

** Changed in: indicator-sound-gtk2 (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Fix Released

** Changed in: indicator-sound-gtk2 (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: New => Fix Committed

** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: New => Fix Committed

** Changed in: lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: New => Fix Committed

** Changed in: indicator-sound-gtk2 (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Critical

** Changed in: indicator-sound-gtk2 (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided => Critical

** Changed in: lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu Xenial)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Simon Quigley (tsimonq2)

** Changed in: indicator-sound-gtk2 (Ubuntu Xenial)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Simon Quigley (tsimonq2)

** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Simon Quigley (tsimonq2)

** Changed in: lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided => Critical

** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided => Critical

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-09-16 Thread Simon Quigley
I uploaded a fixed lubuntu-default-settings, and I tested locally that
it successfully migrates over to using the correct applet after logging
out and logging back in (I would call this verification-done-xenial).

I would prefer this approach because it is more uniform to what the
later releases do.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-09-16 Thread Simon Quigley
Seems like the usage of alsamixer resides in lubuntu-default-settings.
I'll upload a new lubuntu-default-settings to Xenial that makes this
change.

NOTE TO SRU TEAM: lubuntu-meta and lubuntu-default-settings should be
released to xenial-updates at the same time.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-09-16 Thread Simon Quigley
Apologies for the delay on this, but I think I know why Tiago was having
those issues...

There seems to be other pulse things pulled in when upgrading completely
from -proposed, and so it seems there might be a regression there, but
after updating *only* lubuntu-desktop, it works fine.

I would consider this a working lubuntu-meta, and I'll update the tags
as such.

But, they do raise a good point about the volume icon still using
alsamixer. I'll work to figure that out.

** Tags removed: verification-needed verification-needed-xenial
** Tags added: verification-done verification-done-xenial

** Also affects: lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** No longer affects: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial)

** Also affects: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided => Critical

** Changed in: lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Critical

** Changed in: lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided => Critical

** Changed in: lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu Xenial)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Simon Quigley (tsimonq2)

** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Simon Quigley (tsimonq2)

** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: New => Fix Committed

** Changed in: lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu Xenial)
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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-08-31 Thread Tiago Pimenta
After add the line on /etc/apt/sources.list, update and upgrade, I get
my sound muted, I reboot and unmute but stayed playing no sound, I
checked the volume it seemed ok but nothing goes out, volume icon still
launch alsamixergui, but it displayed Card and Chip as being PulseAudio,
and have Master and Capture control, the console alsamixer stayed
displaying ALSA controls. Unfortunately I can not hold this situation
for now, I have a meeting soon, so I reverted the version to 0.65.1.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-08-30 Thread Simon Quigley
Lubuntu does not follow recommends.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-08-30 Thread Robie Basak
> Just to add my 2 cents, I'm still suprise that Firefox package doesn't
add a depend on pulseaudio with this version.

It should only be a Recommends at the most I think, since Firefox is
usable without sound hardware. Does Lubuntu install Recommends by
default? Feel free to file a bug against the Firefox package for this,
of course.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-08-30 Thread Robie Basak
Hello Tiago, or anyone else affected,

Accepted lubuntu-meta into xenial-proposed. The package will build now
and be available at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-
meta/0.65.2 in a few hours, and then in the -proposed repository.

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fix the bug for you, please add a comment stating that, and change the
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** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-08-30 Thread Julien Lavergne
Just to add my 2 cents, I'm still suprise that Firefox package doesn't
add a depend on pulseaudio with this version. By adding pulseaudio to
the seed, we make the impression that we want pulseaudio on Lubuntu for
Xenial. We don't. We need to add it because Firefox is broken without
it.

However, adjusting the seed is probably the quicker way to fix this
critical issue, on a stable release, so let's go with this.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-08-30 Thread Robie Basak
Wearing my ~ubuntu-sru hat:

This seems like a pretty radical change. There was some IRC discussion
here: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/08/30/%23ubuntu-devel.html

My conclusion: +1 in principle (I have yet to review the change itself),
for the following reasons:

This change impacts Lubuntu only, and I'm told that this has been
discussed and agreed within the Lubuntu community and approved by an
Lubuntu release manager.

Though fixing Firefox packaging to support ALSA is another option, I
appreciate that this may be beyond feasible for Lubuntu in practice, and
I think it's appropriate for Lubuntu to decide for themselves how they
want to approach fixing this.

Clearly the Firefox update has broken user experience on Lubuntu, so I
think a fix is justified under existing SRU policy. It's a grey area as
to whether this is a "change to the environment" or a regression caused
by the Firefox update, but either way I think the spirit of the SRU
policy is that the SRU team have the remit to approve a fix. Especially
because the regression is hitting users already.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-08-29 Thread Tiago Pimenta
Gabriel: That is the reason of my sadness.

Simon: I am using Chromium for now, I decided not to install PA in order
to save resources, after all I am using Lubuntu instead of Xubuntu or
MATE due to the lightweight way, but if the head gave up, what could I
do.

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-08-28 Thread Simon Quigley
** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial)
Milestone: None => xenial-updates

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-08-28 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~tsimonq2/ubuntu-seeds/add-pulseaudio-to-lubuntu-
xenial

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-08-28 Thread Simon Quigley
** Description changed:

+ [Impact]
+ 
+ Users of Lubuntu 16.04 LTS are left with no sound in the default web
+ browser, Firefox. This is a regression. For users with no knowledge of
+ what PulseAudio even is (and even for people who *do* know what it is),
+ this is not good.
+ 
+ [Test Case]
+ 
+  1. Go to a website that plays sound in Firefox on Lubuntu 16.04. This,
+ for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QfHhFlTUN8
+ 
+ Expected: Sound should play without having to install any additional
+ software.
+ 
+ Result: No sound is played, and the user is given a message that they
+ need to install PulseAudio.
+ 
+ [Regression Potential]
+ 
+ People might get mad that PulseAudio is now installed, without them
+ asking (but it adds functionality, so in my opinion this update is
+ needed, regardless). I see no technical regression potential, as it is
+ simply adding a dependency.
+ 
+ [Original Description]
+ 
  I am on Lubuntu, an ALSA-only system, after update Firefox to version
  55.0.1 it started to ask for PulseAudio when playing media.
  
  Reference: https://i.imgur.com/5gEnaYv.png
  
  I have initially stated the bug here: https://askubuntu.com/q/946568
  This bug also happened with Firefox 52 and were fixed on 52.0.2, it seems it 
have had returned: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1671273

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-08-28 Thread Simon Quigley
** Also affects: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => In Progress

** Also affects: firefox (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Released

** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: New => In Progress

** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Simon Quigley (tsimonq2)

** No longer affects: firefox (Ubuntu)

** No longer affects: firefox (Ubuntu Xenial)

** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Critical

** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided => Critical

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-08-28 Thread Gabriel Parrondo
Tiago: upstream (mozilla) has made it very clear they won't be changing
anything on their end. All the bugs you linked are closed as WONTFIX.

This is up to the distribution to solve: either add pulseaudio to
lubuntu, or compile firefox with alsa support (and maybe patch it if
Mozilla drops alsa support completely in the future).

Simon: any progress on this? Anything we can help with? Thanks!

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-08-23 Thread Tiago Pimenta
Let us see how many time it will remain there until they consider it duplicated:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1393105

** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #1393105
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1393105

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-08-23 Thread Tiago Pimenta
I am begging them to reconsider the decision, I am very sad about it:

https://support.mozilla.org/pt-BR/questions/1172578

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-08-19 Thread Tiago Pimenta
Could someone please help me to fix that: https://askubuntu.com/q/947784

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-08-16 Thread Simon Quigley
Tiago,

We care. ;)

I'll talk with the Lubuntu Team and see how we can handle it from this
point on.

Thank you for taking the time to make Lubuntu better!

** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Simon Quigley (tsimonq2)

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-08-16 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-08-16 Thread Tiago Pimenta
How you dare? Don't you have feelings?
Look it: 
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/55.0.1+build2-0ubuntu0.16.04.2

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[Bug 1710993] Re: PulseAudio requirement breaks Firefox on ALSA-only systems after 55.0.1 update

2017-08-16 Thread Tiago Pimenta
** Description changed:

- After update to version 55.0.1 Firefox starting to blame for pulseaudio
- again, please, reopen
- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1671273
+ I am on Lubuntu, an ALSA-only system, after update Firefox to version
+ 55.0.1 it started to ask for PulseAudio when playing media.
+ 
+ Reference: https://i.imgur.com/5gEnaYv.png
+ 
+ I have initially stated the bug here: https://askubuntu.com/q/946568
+ This bug also happened with Firefox 52 and were fixed on 52.0.2, it seems it 
have had returned: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1671273

** Description changed:

  I am on Lubuntu, an ALSA-only system, after update Firefox to version
  55.0.1 it started to ask for PulseAudio when playing media.
  
  Reference: https://i.imgur.com/5gEnaYv.png
  
- I have initially stated the bug here: https://askubuntu.com/q/946568
+ I have initially stated the bug [here](https://askubuntu.com/q/946568)
  This bug also happened with Firefox 52 and were fixed on 52.0.2, it seems it 
have had returned: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1671273

** Description changed:

  I am on Lubuntu, an ALSA-only system, after update Firefox to version
  55.0.1 it started to ask for PulseAudio when playing media.
  
  Reference: https://i.imgur.com/5gEnaYv.png
  
- I have initially stated the bug [here](https://askubuntu.com/q/946568)
+ I have initially stated the bug here: https://askubuntu.com/q/946568
  This bug also happened with Firefox 52 and were fixed on 52.0.2, it seems it 
have had returned: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1671273

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