[Bug 1720213] Re: Word moving with left-arrow-ctrl broken in wayland

2018-09-02 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Moved to gtk, per upstream.

** Package changed: gnome-shell (Ubuntu) => gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu)

** Changed in: gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Opinion => New

** No longer affects: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu)

** Description changed:

+ https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/1303
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  Ubuntu 17.10, Wayland session.
  
  In the terminal, the keycombination `ctrl-left-arrow` and `ctrl-right-
  arrow` moves the cursor one word to the left and to the right. In Xorg
  this works, no matter which key you press first (ctrl or arrow). In
  wayland, you have to press the ctrl key first, otherwise, the cursor
  will not move.
  
  # How to reproduce:
  
  type some words in gnome terminal press `left-arrow` key, wait for the
  cursor to move and, and press `ctrl`.
  
  # What happens
  
  The cursor first moves one character per "tick", and stops immediately
  when you press `ctrl`.
  
  # What should happen
  
  The cursor first moves one character per "tick", and starts moving one
  word per "tick" when you press `ctrl`.

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[Bug 1720213] Re: Word moving with left-arrow-ctrl broken in wayland

2018-08-31 Thread Merlijn Sebrechts
This is the upstream issue:

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/1303

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[Bug 1720213] Re: Word moving with left-arrow-ctrl broken in wayland

2018-08-31 Thread Egmont Koblinger
It's indeed an opinion, but my one matches Merlijn's (Merlijn, I'd
appreciate if you opened a bug according to Daniel's suggestion (does it
really belong to mutter, rather than some more core wayland
component?)).

In most software, Ctrl+Arrow walk the cursor faster than the modifier-
less Arrow key. I might press and hold the arrow key, and then realize
it's going to take a bit too long and want make it faster. It's an
obvious an intuitive reaction to press Ctrl as well, or the other way
around, to release Ctrl but leave the Arrow pressed when I'm about to
reach my destination and want to slow down.

This is pretty similar to how typically holding the Shift speeds up
walking in many games - you won't find a game where you have to stop
walking for a sec do to this.

The new behavior is not just counterintuitive, but if one gets used to
it then also still slower than the old one. Even when someone is fully
used to this new behavior, having to release the Arrow and press it
again later is a loss of time, partially because of the speed of our
fingers, and partially beucase the repetition delay between the first
and second emitted keystroke has to elapse again.

This is the kind of usability issue that can easily frequently increase
the user's frustration level, by a tiny little bit every time.

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[Bug 1720213] Re: Word moving with left-arrow-ctrl broken in wayland

2018-08-31 Thread Egmont Koblinger
> Only a few applications don't adhere to this, even on Wayland.

That's probably due to the others still using the X11 compatibility
layer Xwayland.

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[Bug 1720213] Re: Word moving with left-arrow-ctrl broken in wayland

2018-08-31 Thread Merlijn Sebrechts
I disagree because this is the behavior on all other DE's, on Windows
and on Mac, and on most other applications. Only a few applications
don't adhere to this, even on Wayland.

Thanks for the link, I'll post a bug there.

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[Bug 1720213] Re: Word moving with left-arrow-ctrl broken in wayland

2018-08-30 Thread Daniel van Vugt
I don't think this bug is valid. If somekey++Ctrl works the same
as Ctrl+somekey in Xorg then that's interesting, but not normal
recommended behavior. Your should always be holding the modifier (Ctrl)
first.

So this bug is being marked as "Opinion". If you disagree then please
report the bug to the Gnome developers here:

  https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/issues/new

and if they accept it then we can reopen.

** Tags added: bionic

** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Opinion

** Changed in: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Opinion

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[Bug 1720213] Re: Word moving with left-arrow-ctrl broken in wayland

2018-08-30 Thread Merlijn Sebrechts
This bug is still present in Ubuntu 18.04.

** Changed in: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Confirmed

** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Confirmed

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[Bug 1720213] Re: Word moving with left-arrow-ctrl broken in wayland

2018-08-08 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Thank you for reporting this bug to Ubuntu.
Ubuntu 17.10 (artful) reached end-of-life on July 19, 2018.

See this document for currently supported Ubuntu releases:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases 

We appreciate that this bug may be old and you might not be interested
in discussing it any more. But if you are then please upgrade to the
latest Ubuntu version and re-test. If you then find the bug is still
present in the newer Ubuntu version, please add a comment here telling
us which new version it is in and change the bug status to Confirmed.

** Changed in: gnome-shell (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Incomplete

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[Bug 1720213] Re: Word moving with left-arrow-ctrl broken in wayland

2018-08-08 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Thank you for reporting this bug to Ubuntu.
Ubuntu 17.10 (artful) reached end-of-life on July 19, 2018.

See this document for currently supported Ubuntu releases:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases 

We appreciate that this bug may be old and you might not be interested
in discussing it any more. But if you are then please upgrade to the
latest Ubuntu version and re-test. If you then find the bug is still
present in the newer Ubuntu version, please add a comment here telling
us which new version it is in and change the bug status to Confirmed.

** Changed in: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Incomplete

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[Bug 1720213] Re: Word moving with left-arrow-ctrl broken in wayland

2017-10-26 Thread Egmont Koblinger
I can confirm the behavior.

Other similar cases: Press or release Shift while holding a regular
letter. In Xorg this resulted in something like
"aaAaaaaa" appearing. In Wayland
it stops when you press or release Shift.

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[Bug 1720213] Re: Word moving with left-arrow-ctrl broken in wayland

2017-10-26 Thread Daniel van Vugt
** Package changed: wayland (Ubuntu) => gnome-shell (Ubuntu)

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[Bug 1720213] Re: Word moving with left-arrow-ctrl broken in wayland

2017-09-29 Thread Merlijn Sebrechts
Buggy behavior:

- Gnome Terminal
- Gedit
- libreoffice writer
- Nautilus
- Ubuntu Software


Correct behavior:
- xterminal
- Firefox
- Google Chrome
- Atom

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[Bug 1720213] Re: Word moving with left-arrow-ctrl broken in wayland

2017-09-28 Thread Egmont Koblinger
Is the behavior the same in other apps, e.g. gedit, libreoffice writer,
firefox, etc...?

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