[Bug 1738034] Re: Muted Sound Indicator randomly remains red when no sound is playing

2018-07-23 Thread teo1978
> You keep saying these random behaviors. But I am unable to 
> reproduce any of them on 18.04 & 18.10. Can you explain, how to reproduce in 
> a concise way?

If there was a reliable way of reproducing it, it wouldn't be random.

Here's what happens to me:

CASE 1:
- I mute the volume when no sound is playing
Expected behavior: the icon shouldn't go red
Observed behavior: usually the icon doesn't go red, but sometimes it does.

Then sometimes it remains red until I unmute, sometimes it goes back to
normal a few seconds later

CASE 2:
- I mute the volume
- I start playing a sound (e.g. a youtube video or whatever), or some sound 
starts playing (e.g. a Facebook notification in a browser's tab).

Expected behavior: according to you, the icon should become red and remain so 
until you manually unmute the volume. That's nonsense. What's the logic behind 
that? Why would I need a reminder that at some point a sound played? Why is a 
"specific user action required"? Why should I unmute the volume after the sound 
has already stopped playing?
To me, the expected behavior is that the icon should become red and only remain 
so while some sound is playing, and then go back to normal. It's useful to know 
when some sound IS playing and I am not hearing it because my volume is muted. 
When no sound is no longer playing, there's no use in knowing that at some 
point there had been a sound playing.

But whatever the expected behavior is, the observed behavior is that
sometimes the icon goes back to normal after the sound stops playing
without any action on my part, while sometimes it remains red until I
unmute the volume.


> But I am unable to reproduce any of them on 18.04 & 18.10

I don't know, maybe it's fixed on those versions. I'm using 16.04

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[Bug 1738034] Re: Muted Sound Indicator randomly remains red when no sound is playing

2018-07-22 Thread Khurshid Alam
> NOPE, because sometimes it does go back to normal without any action.
> Both becoming red and going back to normal are COMPLETELY UTTERLY RANDOM.

You keep saying these random behaviors. But I am unable to reproduce any
of them on 18.04 & 18.10. Can you explain, how to reproduce in  a
concise way?

And about sound indicator staying red after music stops, as I explained
it is intended behavior. Once a explicit user action is requested, the
program shouldn't do anything until that specific user action is
completed. This is in-line with ux design & concept (I discussed this
with previous dev). So I can't change anything in this area.

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[Bug 1738034] Re: Muted Sound Indicator randomly remains red when no sound is playing

2018-07-22 Thread teo1978
Oh, and by the way, often it does not even become red in the first place
when some sound starts playing while the volume is muted.

Both becoming red and going back to normal are COMPLETELY UTTERLY
RANDOM.

(or there's some logic behind it that is so convoluted that it is
incomprehensible and renders the "feature" of becoming red, to notify
you of something, completely useless)

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[Bug 1738034] Re: Muted Sound Indicator randomly remains red when no sound is playing

2018-07-22 Thread teo1978
> sound indicator couldn't possibly cover all scenarios why music has
stopped playing

It can easily do so. It can become red when the amplitude of the output
waveform is non-zero and volume is muted, and go back to normal when
either the amplitude of the output goes to zero or the volume is
unmuted. THAT is the expected behavior.

Or, if the expected behavior was really the one you describe (only go
back to normal when unmuted), which would be pretty useless, then it
does not work either, because, as I said, it behaves randomly.

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[Bug 1738034] Re: Muted Sound Indicator randomly remains red when no sound is playing

2018-07-22 Thread teo1978
> That is expected behavior. It turns red only to notify user that
volume is muted

NOPE, because sometimes it does go back to normal without any action.
It's RANDOM, and that cannot possibly be expected behavior.

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
   Status: Invalid => Confirmed

** Changed in: ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu)
   Status: Invalid => Confirmed

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[Bug 1738034] Re: Muted Sound Indicator randomly remains red when no sound is playing

2018-07-20 Thread Khurshid Alam
> The issue is that the icon doesn't go back to normal and REMAINS red
when the sound is finished playing.

That is expected behavior. It turns red only to notify user that volume
is muted. It requires immediate action. Once user unmute the volume it
will go back to normal.

Music may stop playing due to  various other reason like pulseaudio
error, so sound indicator couldn't possibly cover all scenarios why
music has stopped playing.

** Changed in: ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Invalid

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[Bug 1738034] Re: Muted Sound Indicator randomly remains red when no sound is playing

2018-07-20 Thread teo1978
The icon is EXPECTED to become red when a sound plays and the volume is
muted.

The issue is that the icon doesn't go back to normal and REMAINS red
when the sound is finished playing.

I find it hard to believe this is an issue with an icon-theme, but if
that is the case, could you please point to where that supposed issue is
described?

It doesn't make sense to mark this bug as invalid. If it is a duplicate
of some other bug, mark it as such, otherwise this is a bug that is not
fixed.

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[Bug 1738034] Re: Muted Sound Indicator randomly remains red when no sound is playing

2018-07-20 Thread teo1978
Sorry for my deleted comment, since you said "it's most likely THE issue
with..." I thought you were referring to some specific issue that you
failed to mention. I assume you meant "most likely AN issue with".

Anyway,

The icon is EXPECTED to become red when a sound plays and the volume is
muted.

The issue is that the icon doesn't go back to normal and REMAINS red
when the sound is finished playing.

I find it hard to believe this is an issue with an theme, are you sure
it is?

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[Bug 1738034] Re: Muted Sound Indicator randomly remains red when no sound is playing

2018-07-19 Thread Khurshid Alam
It's most likely the issue with icon-theme issue. For me it turns red or
blue depending or icon-theme. See https://i.imgur.com/zWYqIrl.png

** Also affects: ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Invalid

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[Bug 1738034] Re: Muted Sound Indicator randomly remains red when no sound is playing

2018-06-11 Thread teo1978
I don't know why the fuck this was changed to incomplete (leaving aside
the idiotic policy of "incomplete" bugs automatically expiring).


The issue still exists on 16.04

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 1738034] Re: Muted Sound Indicator randomly remains red when no sound is playing

2018-06-10 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
[Expired for indicator-sound (Ubuntu) because there has been no activity
for 60 days.]

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Expired

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[Bug 1738034] Re: Muted Sound Indicator randomly remains red when no sound is playing

2018-04-11 Thread Khurshid Alam
The error is due to not having "accountsservice-ubuntu-schema". But I
can't reproduce the error. Could be a issue with icon theme.

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Incomplete

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