[Bug 1773687] Re: [bionic] no unattended installation
Hi Steve,
On 30 May 2018 at 00:10, Steve Langasek wrote:
| Ok, I see what's happening here. The reason artful doesn't prompt is
| because /etc/localtime is prepopulated within the image:
|
| $ tar tvf ubuntu-artful-core-cloudimg-amd64-root.tar.gz |grep zoneinfo
| lrwxrwxrwx root/root 0 2018-05-24 13:44 etc/localtime ->
/usr/share/zoneinfo/UTC
| $
|
| This is despite the fact that the tzdata package itself is not
| installed.
|
| In bionic, this symlink is not present:
|
| $ tar tvf ubuntu-bionic-core-cloudimg-amd64-root.tar.gz |grep zoneinfo
| $
|
| This is in fact a deliberate change in bionic as part of the minimal
| image work; in livecd-rootfs live-build/auto/build:
|
| if [ "${SUBPROJECT:-}" = minimized ] \
|&& ! Chroot chroot dpkg -l tzdata 2>&1 |grep -q ^ii; then
| # workaround for tzdata purge not removing these files
| rm -f chroot/etc/localtime chroot/etc/timezone
| fi
|
| The behavior you're seeing in bionic is the *expected* behavior on a
| completely fresh install of the tzdata package. The reason you don't
| see this behavior in prior releases is that it's not truly a fresh
| install, and there is cruft left on the filesystem in the form of
Nice. I was always a big fan of the minimal ubuntu-server installations "way
back when" a decade or so ago, and am glad to see them back.
| /etc/localtime. If /etc/localtime already exists, tzdata has no need to
| prompt instead of using the existing configuration on the system. If it
| doesn't exist, tzdata will ask debconf, which means a prompt by default.
|
| So your setting DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive, if you don't care about
| /etc/localtime and just tzdata to use the default, is the correct fix
| here.
Agreed. I have set that in the corresponding bionic Dockerfile and will use
it going forward.
Cheers, Dirk
| ** Changed in: tzdata (Ubuntu)
|Status: New => Invalid
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[Bug 1773687] Re: [bionic] no unattended installation
Ok, I see what's happening here. The reason artful doesn't prompt is
because /etc/localtime is prepopulated within the image:
$ tar tvf ubuntu-artful-core-cloudimg-amd64-root.tar.gz |grep zoneinfo
lrwxrwxrwx root/root 0 2018-05-24 13:44 etc/localtime ->
/usr/share/zoneinfo/UTC
$
This is despite the fact that the tzdata package itself is not
installed.
In bionic, this symlink is not present:
$ tar tvf ubuntu-bionic-core-cloudimg-amd64-root.tar.gz |grep zoneinfo
$
This is in fact a deliberate change in bionic as part of the minimal
image work; in livecd-rootfs live-build/auto/build:
if [ "${SUBPROJECT:-}" = minimized ] \
&& ! Chroot chroot dpkg -l tzdata 2>&1 |grep -q ^ii; then
# workaround for tzdata purge not removing these files
rm -f chroot/etc/localtime chroot/etc/timezone
fi
The behavior you're seeing in bionic is the *expected* behavior on a
completely fresh install of the tzdata package. The reason you don't
see this behavior in prior releases is that it's not truly a fresh
install, and there is cruft left on the filesystem in the form of
/etc/localtime. If /etc/localtime already exists, tzdata has no need to
prompt instead of using the existing configuration on the system. If it
doesn't exist, tzdata will ask debconf, which means a prompt by default.
So your setting DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive, if you don't care about
/etc/localtime and just tzdata to use the default, is the correct fix
here.
** Changed in: tzdata (Ubuntu)
Status: New => Invalid
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[Bug 1773687] Re: [bionic] no unattended installation
Hi Steve, On 28 May 2018 at 22:47, Steve Langasek wrote: | This was going to be my recommended approach, as it's the authoritative | way to have a noninteractive install. I haven't had a chance to look | into the package yet given the holiday weekend. Do you think there is a | bug here that still warrants investigating, or do you think this was a | configuration regression on your side? I have the feeling that one important variable setting may have gotten dropped at your end because if I look at my GH repo here: https://github.com/rocker-org/rocker/tree/master/r-apt you will see essentially identical Dockerfile setups that worked for precise trusty wily xenial yakkety zesty artful and then all of a sudden failed for bionic I will add the setting, but methinks you guys set it before. Or maybe one of the Debian packages involved did. Dirk -- http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com | @eddelbuettel | e...@debian.org -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1773687 Title: [bionic] no unattended installation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/1773687/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1773687] Re: [bionic] no unattended installation
This was going to be my recommended approach, as it's the authoritative way to have a noninteractive install. I haven't had a chance to look into the package yet given the holiday weekend. Do you think there is a bug here that still warrants investigating, or do you think this was a configuration regression on your side? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1773687 Title: [bionic] no unattended installation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/1773687/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1773687] Re: [bionic] no unattended installation
Update: A friend just pointed out that setting `export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive` helps, and I verified that in Docker. So _maybe_ we just dropped that setting? edd@rob:~$ docker run --rm -ti ubuntu:bionic root@cf1720b38f97:/# apt-get update Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security InRelease [83.2 kB] Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease [242 kB] Get:3 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/universe Sources [3783 B] Get:4 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/universe amd64 Packages [18.8 kB] Get:5 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/multiverse amd64 Packages [1066 B] Get:6 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/main amd64 Packages [88.7 kB] Get:7 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates InRelease [83.2 kB] Get:8 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-backports InRelease [65.5 kB] Get:9 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/universe Sources [11.5 MB] Get:10 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/multiverse amd64 Packages [186 kB] Get:11 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64 Packages [11.3 MB] Get:12 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/main amd64 Packages [1344 kB] Get:13 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/restricted amd64 Packages [13.5 kB] Get:14 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/universe Sources [28.7 kB] Get:15 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/multiverse amd64 Packages [1660 B] Get:16 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/universe amd64 Packages [79.3 kB] Get:17 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 Packages [127 kB] Fetched 25.2 MB in 4s (5655 kB/s) Reading package lists... Done root@cf1720b38f97:/# export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive root@cf1720b38f97:/# apt-get install -y tzdata Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: tzdata 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 11 not upgraded. Need to get 188 kB of archives. After this operation, 3088 kB of additional disk space will be used. Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/main amd64 tzdata all 2018d-1 [188 kB] Fetched 188 kB in 1s (271 kB/s) debconf: delaying package configuration, since apt-utils is not installed Selecting previously unselected package tzdata. (Reading database ... 4035 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../tzdata_2018d-1_all.deb ... Unpacking tzdata (2018d-1) ... Setting up tzdata (2018d-1) ... Current default time zone: 'Etc/UTC' Local time is now: Mon May 28 17:10:20 UTC 2018. Universal Time is now: Mon May 28 17:10:20 UTC 2018. Run 'dpkg-reconfigure tzdata' if you wish to change it. root@cf1720b38f97:/# -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1773687 Title: [bionic] no unattended installation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/1773687/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1773687] Re: [bionic] no unattended installation
** Changed in: tzdata (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => High ** Changed in: tzdata (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Steve Langasek (vorlon) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1773687 Title: [bionic] no unattended installation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/1773687/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1773687] Re: [bionic] no unattended installation
Also, it is not the package per se but possibly the debconf settings -- installing tzdata_2018e-1 from Debian reveals the same issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1773687 Title: [bionic] no unattended installation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/1773687/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1773687] Re: [bionic] no unattended installation
Note that I filed this on my 17.10 machine so the final paragraph is mildly inaccurate. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1773687 Title: [bionic] no unattended installation To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/1773687/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
