[Bug 1871030] Re: There's no Option to Disable the Startup of KDEConnect
Nothing should just respawn failing processes continuously within a short span of time. Once the kdeconnect service crashes, what is causing it to launch again immediately? Whatever it is needs to be smarter about things, to avoid respawning the same crashing service millions, or even hundreds, of times per hour. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1871030 Title: There's no Option to Disable the Startup of KDEConnect To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdeconnect-desktop/+bug/1871030/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Alternative workaround step 2, leaving system config files untouched: Copy /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.kde.kdeconnect.service to ~/.local/share/dbus-1/services/ and change the Exec= line of the copy to Exec=/usr/bin/false When combined with step 1 of my workaround, this prevents kdeconnectd from launching in that user's sessions. It adds some clutter to the session log, as dbus-daemon complains that the executable is failing, but it gives up after several tries and seems to remain quiet after that. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1871030 Title: There's no Option to Disable the Startup of KDEConnect To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdeconnect-desktop/+bug/1871030/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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I found some (ugly) workarounds for the unwanted kdeconnectd autostart. The process seems to be launched at session startup time from two distinct places: 1. /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.kdeconnect.daemon.desktop This can be disabled for individual users by copying the file to each user's ~/.config/autostart/ directory and adding Hidden=true to the [Desktop Entry] section of the copies. Alternatively, it can be disabled by default by adding a line like this to the file's [Desktop Entry] section: X-KDE-autostart-condition=kdeconnectd-autostartrc:General:Autostart:false Then, to re-enable it for a particular user, create a ~/.config/kdeconnectd-autostartrc file with Autostart=true in its [General] section. (The file name "kdeconnectd-autostartrc" is arbitrary; I chose it in hopes of avoiding conflicts with any standard files.) 2. /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.kde.kdeconnect.service According to KDE docs*, this file tells every user's dbus session to launch kdeconnectd if something tries to contact it over d-bus. With this file in place, kdeconnectd is launched by systemd at session start even if a user disables the autostart .desktop file. The file can be moved to a backup directory to avoid this. However, I think a better fix would be to identify whatever is making org.kde.kdeconnect d-bus requests at session startup, and prevent that instead. * https://develop.kde.org/docs/use/d-bus/dbus_autostart_services/ Of course, these workarounds are hackish, and will probably revert to the normal (unwanted) behavior whenever KDE Connect package updates are installed. What we really need is for it to be configurable in the first place. Seems like a good fit for the Background Services panel. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1871030 Title: There's no Option to Disable the Startup of KDEConnect To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdeconnect-desktop/+bug/1871030/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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> unable to communicate with the first paired instance The word "paired" should have been in parentheses. I don't know what ate them. To be clear, only one user has paired KDE Connect with the Android app, yet the second user's kdeconnectd instance makes the first instance stop working. Unless there's another way to fix this, I think I need a way to disable kdeconnectd for the second user. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1871030 Title: There's no Option to Disable the Startup of KDEConnect To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdeconnect-desktop/+bug/1871030/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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+1 for adding the option on a per-user basis. It's not just a matter of convenience; the lack of this option breaks KDE Connect on my multiuser system: As soon as a second desktop session is started, the new kdeconnectd instance seems to steal the Android app's attention, leaving it unable to communicate with the first paired instance. I tried copying /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.kdeconnect.daemon.desktop to the second user's ~/.config/autostart/ and adding Hidden=true, as specified in the freedesktop spec. It didn't help. I tried renaming /etc/xdg/autostart/org.kde.kdeconnect.daemon.desktop. It didn't help. I searched for a systemd --user unit that I could disable. I didn't find one. This really should be a per-user option, listed in Background Services along with all the others. In the meantime, I would appreciate a workaround, if somebody knows of one. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1871030 Title: There's no Option to Disable the Startup of KDEConnect To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdeconnect-desktop/+bug/1871030/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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The open port is indeed an attack surface, there should be an option to run kdeconnect only when needed. Kdeconnect should be visible among the auto-run services so that it could be disabled (without uninstalling). Additionally it would be nice to have an option to disable just the listening socket from the system tray menu. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1871030 Title: There's no Option to Disable the Startup of KDEConnect To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdeconnect-desktop/+bug/1871030/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Yes, KDEConnect in no way counts as essential. Can the 'No Display' aspect be removed? An option to disable it is even more essential in light of this recent issue: https://kde.org/info/security/advisory-20201002-1.txt -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1871030 Title: There's no Option to Disable the Startup of KDEConnect To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdeconnect-desktop/+bug/1871030/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1871030] Re: There's no Option to Disable the Startup of KDEConnect
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: kdeconnect (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1871030 Title: There's no Option to Disable the Startup of KDEConnect To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdeconnect-desktop/+bug/1871030/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Other than listing all Running Processes, is there a way to see an unabridged (and exclusive) list of all auto-start applications that are running as "NoDisplay"? Your point of preventing users from "shooting themselves in the foot" makes sense, but on the other hand, transparency is also important. I like your idea of labeling important things as essential services. But in my case, KDEConnect is not an essential service. I think it is ok to warn people before allowing them to toggle something important off, but "hiding it completely" seems less than forthcoming. The policy I'd advocate, is that if a program or service is important enough to auto-start, it is important enough to be listed in an unabridged list where all other auto-start programs and service are listed. Such lists should be unabridged in my opinion. If it auto- starts, list it. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1871030 Title: There's no Option to Disable the Startup of KDEConnect To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdeconnect-desktop/+bug/1871030/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1871030] Re: There's no Option to Disable the Startup of KDEConnect
Launchpad has imported 7 comments from the remote bug at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417615. If you reply to an imported comment from within Launchpad, your comment will be sent to the remote bug automatically. Read more about Launchpad's inter-bugtracker facilities at https://help.launchpad.net/InterBugTracking. On 2020-02-14T07:16:21+00:00 Tagwerk19 wrote: SUMMARY: Seems to be no way of disabling kdeconnect (so that the kdeconnectd process is not running) STEPS TO REPRODUCE: 1. Look in "System Settings", "KDE Connect" for an option to disable the service. 2. ... then try "System Settings", "Startup and Shutdown", "Background Services" EXPECTED RESULTS: A "Enable KDE Connect" option that can be unchecked... DESIRED RESULT: An option that is not checked until you decide to... SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS: System Settings 5.18.0 kdeconnect 1.4 (?) from Neon Testing KDE Plasma 5.18.0 KDE Frameworks 5.68.0 Qt 5.13.2 ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: There's an option in System Settings "File Search" to enable or disable search. Looking for an equivalent option for kdeconnect Request triggered by a discussion that the "slow start for gwenview" might be related to running kdeconnect (Bug 411196) Looks like not all distributions have KDEconnect installed by default, seemingly Fedora does not, Neon does. In the case that it is installed, there should be an easily discoverable way of controlling it and maybe it should not be active by default. There's the principle that if a service is not needed it should not be running by default (all the more so when it has an open port) Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect/+bug/1871030/comments/0 On 2020-02-14T21:30:38+00:00 Matthijstijink-k wrote: You can just uninstall it, if it's not needed. Otherwise, I _think_ you can disable it by removing the plasmoid, and overriding the XDG autostart (see https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/XDG_Autostart). I am going to leave this bug open though, since having such an option could be useful in some cases (e.g. multi-user systems). Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect/+bug/1871030/comments/1 On 2020-02-15T08:57:58+00:00 Tagwerk19 wrote: Tried creating a .config/autostart/org.kde.kdeconnect.daemon.desktop file (0744), containing [Desktop Entry] Hidden=True The kdeconnectd process was still here. More magic seemily required. Uninstall works (without taking out other apps/libraries). "Wishlist" is fine; heads up though that there a process with an open port (seemingly just IPv6...) Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect/+bug/1871030/comments/2 On 2020-02-20T10:38:23+00:00 Tagwerk19 wrote: For what it's worth, the "IPv6 only" comment above came from a misunderstanding of the netstat output. If it lists a service listening on "tcp6", it is _also_ listening on IPv4. Confirmation by: root@testbox:~# nc -v 127.0.0.1 1716 Connection to 127.0.0.1 1716 port [tcp/*] succeeded! ^C root@testbox:~# pkill kdeconnectd root@testbox:~# nc -v 127.0.0.1 1716 nc: connect to 127.0.0.1 port 1716 (tcp) failed: Connection refused So, the KDE Connect has an open port on both IPv4 and IPv6 Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect/+bug/1871030/comments/3 On 2020-04-06T07:15:31+00:00 5-kde wrote: What is so special about KDEConnect, that it can run each time I boot my computer and not show itself (officially) here: Settings > Startup and Shutdown > Background Services > Startup Services? This may be a great application, but it should hide itself as a preference; there needs to be a way to toggle it on and off without uninstalling it. I submitted a downstream bug report regarding this matter here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect/+bug/1871030 Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect/+bug/1871030/comments/6 On 2020-04-06T07:26:07+00:00 5-kde wrote: Not listed: https://i.stack.imgur.com/FtRl2.jpg Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect/+bug/1871030/comments/7 On 2020-04-06T07:39:52+00:00 8p-k26-gj wrote: KDE Connect is a regular autostart applications. It is marked as "NoDisplay", though. I was wondering if the Autostart KCM should display such
[Bug 1871030] Re: There's no Option to Disable the Startup of KDEConnect
** Bug watch added: KDE Bug Tracking System #417615 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417615 ** Also affects: kdeconnect-desktop via https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417615 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kdeconnect in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1871030 Title: There's no Option to Disable the Startup of KDEConnect To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdeconnect-desktop/+bug/1871030/+subscriptions -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1871030] [NEW] There's no Option to Disable the Startup of KDEConnect
Public bug reported: In Kubuntu 19.10 (and likely Kubuntu 20.04), why is KDEConnect not listed as a Background Service here?: https://i.stack.imgur.com/FtRl2.jpg Run this command in Kubuntu 19.10: lsof -i You'll see that KDEConnect is listening on UDP 1716 and TCP 1716. I want to prevent KDEConnect from running each time I reboot my computer, because I do not use this service and I do not appreciate unused services that run each time my computer starts (especially ones that hide themselves from official lists like that of Startup Services -- screenshot linked above). What is so special about KDEConnect that it should run all the time, whether you need it or not (and without the GUI-level-ability to toggle it off)? Is this something that can be addressed before Kubuntu 20.04 is released? ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 19.10 Package: kdeconnect 1.3.5-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.3.0-45.37-generic 5.3.18 Uname: Linux 5.3.0-45-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_modeset nvidia ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu8.8 Architecture: amd64 CurrentDesktop: KDE Date: Mon Apr 6 01:52:24 2020 InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-02-03 (62 days ago) InstallationMedia: Kubuntu 19.10 "Eoan Ermine" - Release amd64 (20191017) ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm-256color PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: kdeconnect UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) ** Affects: kdeconnect (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: amd64 apport-bug eoan focal -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1871030 Title: There's no Option to Disable the Startup of KDEConnect To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeconnect/+bug/1871030/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
