[Bug 1917283] Re: "The following packages have been kept back:" bionic requesting focal downloads

2021-03-03 Thread Michael F Winthrop
I posted this bug report with features I have note here to the
pulseaudio group two days ago. No response. The pulseaudio group is
implicated as the source of the issue.

sent to: pulseaudio-b...@lists.freedesktop.org


I posted this as a kernel bug, but perhaps this is a pulseaudio problem.

On latest update of kde kubuntu kernel I saw that libpulsedsp was "kept
back" from updating. This remains so. The dependencies are listed as
items in focal (kubuntu 20.04) however I am running bionic kubuntu
18.04. The situation cannot be resolved. I also note that the list of
items (there are 8) are difficult.

$ sudo apt upgrade
[sudo] password for dad:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree  
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  libpulsedsp

please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1917283
$ sudo apt list -a --upgradable
[sudo] password for dad:
Listing... Done
libpulse-dev/focal 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11]
libpulse-dev/bionic-updates,bionic-security,now 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11 amd64 
[installed,upgradable to: 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1]
libpulse-dev/bionic 1:11.1-1ubuntu7 amd64

libpulse-mainloop-glib0/focal 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1 amd64 [upgradable 
from: 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11]
libpulse-mainloop-glib0/bionic-updates,bionic-security,now 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11 
amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1]
libpulse-mainloop-glib0/bionic 1:11.1-1ubuntu7 amd64

libpulse0/focal 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11]
libpulse0/bionic-updates,bionic-security,now 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11 amd64 
[installed,upgradable to: 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1]
libpulse0/bionic 1:11.1-1ubuntu7 amd64

libpulsedsp/focal 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11]
libpulsedsp/bionic-updates,bionic-security,now 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11 amd64 
[installed,upgradable to: 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1]
libpulsedsp/bionic 1:11.1-1ubuntu7 amd64

pulseaudio/focal 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11]
pulseaudio/bionic-updates,bionic-security,now 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11 amd64 
[installed,upgradable to: 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1]
pulseaudio/bionic 1:11.1-1ubuntu7 amd64

pulseaudio-module-jack/focal 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1 amd64 [upgradable 
from: 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11]
pulseaudio-module-jack/bionic-updates,bionic-security,now 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11 
amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1]
pulseaudio-module-jack/bionic 1:11.1-1ubuntu7 amd64

pulseaudio-utils/focal 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11]
pulseaudio-utils/bionic-updates,bionic-security,now 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11 amd64 
[installed,upgradable to: 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1]
pulseaudio-utils/bionic 1:11.1-1ubuntu7 amd64

As is visible, I am not able to upgrade to Focal elements because I am running 
Bionic and I cannot upgrade Focal elements because the current upgrade tree 
uses Bionic ppa. If I were to put Focal ppa in my /etc/apt/sources.list there 
would likely be havoc! pulseaudio currently does not work so I am using alsa. I 
do not know how many other Focal elements will emerge even if I can resolve 
these, Additionally, I do not know how to fix these anyhow.
Respectfully,

Michael F Winthrop
Member: Sterling Lions Club, VA
Member: EAA Chapter 186, Manassas Apt. KHEF

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Re: [Bug 1917283] Re: "The following packages have been kept back:" bionic requesting focal downloads

2021-03-01 Thread Michael F Winthrop
Chris,

I did not know the multiple support places that might be involved. I 
followed the "advice" to report this problem from the updater, which led 
me to the Kernel group. I use apt, apt-get, and aptitude (depending on 
the difficulty) for updating. I did spend a long time (from the latest 
bionic kernel update to now) trying to find a solution for this. I 
searched all the forums via duckduckgo and none were about a mislaid 
update element (focal dependencies in bionic distro). I thought that the 
problem might have been caused by the kernel dependencies list when the 
kernel was updated. An incidental "solution" may well relate to the 
other resources you suggest, however, this problem only occurred on 
update of the kernel to 136 from 135. In that update, the packages did 
not (from my pea brained memory) include the ones in the bug report. I 
did note that libc6 was listed as a dependency from 27 to 29 for some of 
the focal components when I did a build-dep request in apt-get. Since I 
am not adept at the specific kernel ancillary dependencies that are met 
to perform the update, and since the problem started with the update, I 
thought the bug was properly made. I have kubuntu (kde) version of 
ubuntu which is oriented towards audio elements. Some kernel items (I am 
guessing) include MIDI devices, audio steam control and linking 
[pulseaudio], etc. Are distro kernel dependencies verified for release 
compatibility? That is, are the elements that use the kernel in a given 
distribution verified anywhere as specific to that kernel long term 
release, and by whom? The applications looking for focal dependencies 
may/may-not be focal release. I do not know. Right now this is a bag of 
worms for me.

*Yours in Lionism,

Michael F Winthrop
Member: Sterling Lions Club, VA
Member: EAA Chapter 186, Manassas Apt. KHEF *
On 3/1/21 2:24 AM, Chris Guiver wrote:
> Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make
> Ubuntu better.
>
> Bug reporting is mostly about finding & fixing problems thus preventing
> future users from hitting the same bug.
>
> I suspect a Support site would be more appropriate, eg.
> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu. You can also find help with your
> problem in the support forum of your local Ubuntu community
> http://loco.ubuntu.com/ or asking at https://askubuntu.com or
> https://ubuntuforums.org, or for more support options please look at
> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/community-support/709
>
> (Note: you've filed this is as a kernel bug (against the linux kernel)
> but mention release-upgrade so I wonder if your intended package should
> be ubuntu-release-upgrader, but a quick scan of your mentioned packages
> shows numerous 3rd party packages that I don't see matching any
> supported release of Ubuntu; so I'd suggest seeking support & possibly
> using ppa-purge, but your description doesn't appear to be about a
> kernel issue so I'm confused).
>

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[Bug 1917283] Re: "The following packages have been kept back:" bionic requesting focal downloads

2021-02-28 Thread Chris Guiver
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make
Ubuntu better.

Bug reporting is mostly about finding & fixing problems thus preventing
future users from hitting the same bug.

I suspect a Support site would be more appropriate, eg.
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu. You can also find help with your
problem in the support forum of your local Ubuntu community
http://loco.ubuntu.com/ or asking at https://askubuntu.com or
https://ubuntuforums.org, or for more support options please look at
https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/community-support/709

(Note: you've filed this is as a kernel bug (against the linux kernel)
but mention release-upgrade so I wonder if your intended package should
be ubuntu-release-upgrader, but a quick scan of your mentioned packages
shows numerous 3rd party packages that I don't see matching any
supported release of Ubuntu; so I'd suggest seeking support & possibly
using ppa-purge, but your description doesn't appear to be about a
kernel issue so I'm confused).

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[Bug 1917283] Re: "The following packages have been kept back:" bionic requesting focal downloads

2021-02-28 Thread Michael F Winthrop
apport information

** Tags added: apport-collected

** Description changed:

  I am happily running Bionic 18.04 Kubuntu (all previous bugs resolved).
  I decided to upgrade to Focal 20.04 and got a failure for an unsolvable
  conflict. I discovered a ppa for xenial was the cause. I removed that
  and then retried. (All my ppa were now for Bionic so it seemed safe)
  
  sudo do-release-upgrade
  Checking for a new Ubuntu release
  Please install all available updates for your release before upgrading.
  
  On "sudo apt update" I discovered that numerous pulseaudio applications
  and dependencies were a problem:"The following packages have been kept
  back:"
  
  dad@dad314159:~$ sudo apt list -a --upgradable
  Listing... Done
  libpulse-dev/focal 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11]
  libpulse-dev/bionic-updates,bionic-security,now 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11 amd64 
[installed,upgradable to: 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1]
  libpulse-dev/bionic 1:11.1-1ubuntu7 amd64
  
  libpulse-mainloop-glib0/focal 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1 amd64 
[upgradable from: 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11]
  libpulse-mainloop-glib0/bionic-updates,bionic-security,now 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11 
amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1]
  libpulse-mainloop-glib0/bionic 1:11.1-1ubuntu7 amd64
  
  libpulse0/focal 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11]
  libpulse0/bionic-updates,bionic-security,now 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11 amd64 
[installed,upgradable to: 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1]
  libpulse0/bionic 1:11.1-1ubuntu7 amd64
  
  libpulsedsp/focal 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11]
  libpulsedsp/bionic-updates,bionic-security,now 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11 amd64 
[installed,upgradable to: 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1]
  libpulsedsp/bionic 1:11.1-1ubuntu7 amd64
  
  pulseaudio/focal 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11]
  pulseaudio/bionic-updates,bionic-security,now 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11 amd64 
[installed,upgradable to: 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1]
  pulseaudio/bionic 1:11.1-1ubuntu7 amd64
  
  pulseaudio-module-jack/focal 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1 amd64 [upgradable 
from: 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11]
  pulseaudio-module-jack/bionic-updates,bionic-security,now 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11 
amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1]
  pulseaudio-module-jack/bionic 1:11.1-1ubuntu7 amd64
  
  pulseaudio-utils/focal 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1 amd64 [upgradable from: 
1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11]
  pulseaudio-utils/bionic-updates,bionic-security,now 1:11.1-1ubuntu7.11 amd64 
[installed,upgradable to: 1:13.99.1-1ubuntu3.7+kxstudio1]
  pulseaudio-utils/bionic 1:11.1-1ubuntu7 amd64
  
  As is visible, I am not able to upgrade to Focal elements because I am
  running Bionic and I cannot upgrade Focal elements because the current
  upgrade tree uses Bionic ppa. If I were to put Focal ppa in my
  /etc/apt/sources.list there would likely be havoc!
  
- pulseaudio currently does not work so I am using alsa. I do not know haw
- many other Focal elements will emerge even if I can resolve these,
- Additionally, I do not know how to fix these anyhow.
+ pulseaudio currently does not work so I am using alsa. I do not know haw many 
other Focal elements will emerge even if I can resolve these, Additionally, I 
do not know how to fix these anyhow.
+ --- 
+ ProblemType: Bug
+ ApportVersion: 2.20.9-0ubuntu7.23
+ Architecture: amd64
+ AudioDevicesInUse:
+  USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
+  /dev/snd/controlC0:  dad4960 F pulseaudio
+ CurrentDesktop: KDE
+ DistroRelease: Ubuntu 18.04
+ HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=540c3467-7148-463e-858a-cb1435e4503f
+ MachineType: Dell Inc. Inspiron 1545
+ NonfreeKernelModules: wl
+ Package: linux (not installed)
+ ProcFB: 0 inteldrmfb
+ ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-136-lowlatency 
root=UUID=27aec088-dbbf-44f9-9c61-ab3c933e054e ro quiet splash 
pciehp.pciehp_force=1 vt.handoff=1
+ ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.15.0-136.140-lowlatency 4.15.18
+ RelatedPackageVersions:
+  linux-restricted-modules-4.15.0-136-lowlatency N/A
+  linux-backports-modules-4.15.0-136-lowlatency  N/A
+  linux-firmware 1.173.19
+ Tags:  bionic
+ Uname: Linux 4.15.0-136-lowlatency x86_64
+ UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to bionic on 2021-02-26 (3 days ago)
+ UserGroups: adm audio cdrom dip lpadmin lxd netdev plugdev pulse sambashare 
sudo vboxusers video
+ _MarkForUpload: True
+ dmi.bios.date: 12/07/2009
+ dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc.
+ dmi.bios.version: A14
+ dmi.board.name: 0G848F
+ dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc.
+ dmi.chassis.type: 8
+ dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc.
+ dmi.modalias: 
dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA14:bd12/07/2009:svnDellInc.:pnInspiron1545:pvr:rvnDellInc.:rn0G848F:rvr:cvnDellInc.:ct8:cvr:
+ dmi.product.name: Inspiron 1545
+ dmi.sys.vendor: Dell Inc.

** Attachment added: "AlsaInfo.txt"