[Bug 1925732] Re: new in 21.04: gnome window manager ignores the --geometry location request of the gnome-terminal

2021-05-04 Thread Daniel van Vugt
** Tags added: wayland wayland-session

** Summary changed:

- new in 21.04: gnome window manager  ignores the --geometry location request 
of the gnome-terminal
+ [wayland] gnome window manager ignores the --geometry location request of the 
gnome-terminal

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[Bug 1925732] Re: new in 21.04: gnome window manager ignores the --geometry location request of the gnome-terminal

2021-05-04 Thread Daniel van Vugt
** Project changed: gnome-shell => ubuntu

** No longer affects: ubuntu

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[Bug 1925732] Re: new in 21.04: gnome window manager ignores the --geometry location request of the gnome-terminal

2021-05-04 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: ubuntu
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 1925732] Re: new in 21.04: gnome window manager ignores the --geometry location request of the gnome-terminal

2021-05-04 Thread Daniel van Vugt
I don't know enough about the Wayland protocol to comment further. You
should find a way to contact the protocol authors instead.

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[Bug 1925732] Re: new in 21.04: gnome window manager ignores the --geometry location request of the gnome-terminal

2021-05-04 Thread Péter Prőhle
If the "GNOME shell" is able to ask Wayland to position the diverse
elements of the destop, then the cooperation of the "GNOME shell" and
"gnome-terminal" should be able to do the same.

Wayland can be asked to position the top bar to the top of the screen,
to position the side bar to the left of the scereen, ... then "GNOME
shell" and "gnome-terminal" should be able to request at Wayland the
top-right or top-left positioning according to the original request of
gnome-terminal --geometry=-0+0" or "gnome-terminal --geometry=+0+0"
respectively.

To position someting into one of the 4 corners is so common request,
that there shuld be a solution for that, --- hence this bug report is
anyways

 a real problem of the cooperation of "gnome-terminal" and "GNOME
shell" with "Wayland".

Yet another issue:

"I think it's more of a security feature than a bug, ..." ---  If
Wayland doesn't support the positioning request due to security
concerns, then even the size requests shuold be forbidden and make that
features obsolote as weel, since a request for maximal possibble size
implies the dangerous request of positioning, namely into the upper left
corner, what positioning request is considered a security threat.

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[Bug 1925732] Re: new in 21.04: gnome window manager ignores the --geometry location request of the gnome-terminal

2021-05-04 Thread Péter Prőhle
** Also affects: gnome-shell
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 1925732] Re: new in 21.04: gnome window manager ignores the --geometry location request of the gnome-terminal

2021-05-04 Thread Péter Prőhle
"* Find a gnome-shell extension that will remember window positions for
you;"

Thanks, perhaps this is the best direction for me to proceed.

Hence I suggest to close this bug report as "successful".

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[Bug 1925732] Re: new in 21.04: gnome window manager ignores the --geometry location request of the gnome-terminal

2021-05-03 Thread Daniel van Vugt
I think it's more of a security feature than a bug, so no I don't think
it's appropriate to open a bug against the protocol itself. And Ubuntu
was not involved in the design of Wayland, so complaining about it here
won't achieve much.

As a workaround you can:

* Use Xorg sessions instead; or

* Find a gnome-shell extension that will remember window positions for
you; or

* Just place windows manually.

** Changed in: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Invalid

** Changed in: mutter (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Invalid

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[Bug 1925732] Re: new in 21.04: gnome window manager ignores the --geometry location request of the gnome-terminal

2021-05-03 Thread Péter Prőhle
I do not find how to add "Wayland" to the "affects" list, help please.
Thanks.

"wayland-protocols (wayland-protocols) (Choose another project) wayland-
protocols doesn't use Launchpad to track its bugs. If you know this bug
has been reported in another bug tracker, you can link to it; Launchpad
will keep track of its status for you."

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[Bug 1925732] Re: new in 21.04: gnome window manager ignores the --geometry location request of the gnome-terminal

2021-05-03 Thread Péter Prőhle
"... this is expected because windows only have control over their size,
and NEVER THEIR POSITION, in Wayland"

This is really a tragedy.

One significant benefit for me of the linux world over the micro and
soft world, that I can POSITION the windows of a project from my shell
script starting that project or during the project.

This is a design bug of Wayland, what needs to be fixed, regardless of
the outcome of the test with "Xorg" (I will do after the funeral today).

If there was no other protocol, if the Wayland was the only protocol,
even in that case this is a very serious design bug.

Hence I suggest to add "Wayland" to the "affects" list.

Do I have to leave the Wayland world, and switch back to Xorg?

But it was told, that Wayland is more advanced, that is the new
direction.

Is the new direction in 2021 that I can not control the location of a
new windows from script?

Then why it STILL is allowed, that we can control the location of a new
window using a mouse?

Is it possibble --- as a further enhancement --- to disable also the
window positioning by the mouse?

I do not find how to add "Wayland" to the "affects" list, help please.
Thanks.

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[Bug 1925732] Re: new in 21.04: gnome window manager ignores the --geometry location request of the gnome-terminal

2021-05-03 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Please try logging into 'Ubuntu on Xorg' and tell us if that fixes the
problem.

If the problem only happens in the default Ubuntu (which is Wayland)
session then this is expected because windows only have control over
their size, and never their position, in Wayland.

** Tags added: hirsute

** No longer affects: ubuntu

** Changed in: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Incomplete

** Changed in: mutter (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Incomplete

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