Re: [Bug 1943984] Re: No archive files for static compilation are included in the -dev package
On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 1:35 PM Mattia Rizzolo <1943...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > > As a member of the Debian LibreOffice Team, and also as an Ubuntu > Developer, I'm likewise not convinced that starting to build and ship > graphite2's static library is a really useful thing to do. > > I'm personally generically against static libraries, since I regularly see > grief caused by poor tracking of statically-builtand or embedded things. Well, I have seen grief caused by shared libraries pulling too many dependencies or by shared libraries updates that break applications even though in theory the ABI compatibility has been kept. Also, there is actually a trend towards static compilation (golang, rust), so I do not think I'm the only one seeing this. But that is not really relevant. There are valid uses of static libraries, and the developers should have the option to choose between shared and static. The patch does not prevent using shared libraries, it just gives more options to application developers. > > And I don't really buy the need to save space when talking about a 137328 > bytes shared lib (taken from the last build of graphite2 in Sid, that's the > size of the .so). > It feels like you are building some kind to system image that you'd then > flash into some embedded thingy. I don't think there is much value in > saving...what, a dozen kB perhaps? (I haven't tried building the .a, so > happy to get the number). If your system is so constrained in space you're > likely going to need some much more dedicated work to reduce the size of > all components anyway; similarly if you are after the (normally > uncountable) performance improvement of statically linked binaries. Nobody said this was about saving space. libgraphite was being pulled as many other dependencies and I wanted to have all statically compiled instead of some static, some dynamic. Said this, I agree in not carrying a delta between Debian and Ubuntu as this library does not pull additional dependencies and is small, so additional maintenance is not worth the effort. > > On Wed, 29 Sep 2021, 1:06 pm Sebastien Bacher, <1943...@bugs.launchpad.net> > wrote: > > > Debian wontfixed the change so it means we will need to carry a delta at > > the cost of increased workload from our team if we take the change. Not > > saying that we should be we need to weight the cost over time and the > > benefit > > > > -- > > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to Ubuntu. > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943984 > > > > Title: > > No archive files for static compilation are included in the -dev > > package > > > > Status in graphite2 package in Ubuntu: > > New > > Status in graphite2 package in Debian: > > Won't Fix > > > > Bug description: > > There is no libgraphite2.a file, so it is not possible to compile > > statically against this library. See attached patch to solve this. > > > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/graphite2/+bug/1943984/+subscriptions > > > > > > > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943984 > > Title: > No archive files for static compilation are included in the -dev > package > > Status in graphite2 package in Ubuntu: > New > Status in graphite2 package in Debian: > Won't Fix > > Bug description: > There is no libgraphite2.a file, so it is not possible to compile > statically against this library. See attached patch to solve this. > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/graphite2/+bug/1943984/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943984 Title: No archive files for static compilation are included in the -dev package To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/graphite2/+bug/1943984/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1943984] Re: No archive files for static compilation are included in the -dev package
As a member of the Debian LibreOffice Team, and also as an Ubuntu Developer, I'm likewise not convinced that starting to build and ship graphite2's static library is a really useful thing to do. I'm personally generically against static libraries, since I regularly see grief caused by poor tracking of statically-builtand or embedded things. And I don't really buy the need to save space when talking about a 137328 bytes shared lib (taken from the last build of graphite2 in Sid, that's the size of the .so). It feels like you are building some kind to system image that you'd then flash into some embedded thingy. I don't think there is much value in saving...what, a dozen kB perhaps? (I haven't tried building the .a, so happy to get the number). If your system is so constrained in space you're likely going to need some much more dedicated work to reduce the size of all components anyway; similarly if you are after the (normally uncountable) performance improvement of statically linked binaries. On Wed, 29 Sep 2021, 1:06 pm Sebastien Bacher, <1943...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > Debian wontfixed the change so it means we will need to carry a delta at > the cost of increased workload from our team if we take the change. Not > saying that we should be we need to weight the cost over time and the > benefit > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to Ubuntu. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943984 > > Title: > No archive files for static compilation are included in the -dev > package > > Status in graphite2 package in Ubuntu: > New > Status in graphite2 package in Debian: > Won't Fix > > Bug description: > There is no libgraphite2.a file, so it is not possible to compile > statically against this library. See attached patch to solve this. > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/graphite2/+bug/1943984/+subscriptions > > > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943984 Title: No archive files for static compilation are included in the -dev package To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/graphite2/+bug/1943984/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943984] Re: No archive files for static compilation are included in the -dev package
Debian wontfixed the change so it means we will need to carry a delta at the cost of increased workload from our team if we take the change. Not saying that we should be we need to weight the cost over time and the benefit -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943984 Title: No archive files for static compilation are included in the -dev package To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/graphite2/+bug/1943984/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943984] Re: No archive files for static compilation are included in the -dev package
** Changed in: graphite2 (Debian) Status: Unknown => Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943984 Title: No archive files for static compilation are included in the -dev package To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/graphite2/+bug/1943984/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943984] Re: No archive files for static compilation are included in the -dev package
** Also affects: graphite2 (Debian) via https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=994757 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943984 Title: No archive files for static compilation are included in the -dev package To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/graphite2/+bug/1943984/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943984] Re: No archive files for static compilation are included in the -dev package
Debian bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=994757 ** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #994757 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=994757 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943984 Title: No archive files for static compilation are included in the -dev package To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/graphite2/+bug/1943984/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943984] Re: No archive files for static compilation are included in the -dev package
Thank for your bug report, the package is in sync with Debian so could you report the issue there? ** Changed in: graphite2 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Wishlist -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943984 Title: No archive files for static compilation are included in the -dev package To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/graphite2/+bug/1943984/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1943984] Re: No archive files for static compilation are included in the -dev package
The attachment "debdiff.patch" seems to be a debdiff. The ubuntu- sponsors team has been subscribed to the bug report so that they can review and hopefully sponsor the debdiff. If the attachment isn't a patch, please remove the "patch" flag from the attachment, remove the "patch" tag, and if you are member of the ~ubuntu-sponsors, unsubscribe the team. [This is an automated message performed by a Launchpad user owned by ~brian-murray, for any issue please contact him.] ** Tags added: patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1943984 Title: No archive files for static compilation are included in the -dev package To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/graphite2/+bug/1943984/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
