[Bug 1961833] Re: openssh 8.8 breaks login to Canonical servers

2022-05-12 Thread Dan Streetman
interestingly, paramiko is also broken when connecting to older servers,
but not for the same reason as this bug. See bug 1973241

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[Bug 1961833] Re: openssh 8.8 breaks login to Canonical servers

2022-05-12 Thread Dan Streetman
For reference to anyone coming here with this problem, when connecting
to a remote sshd server you can find what host key algorithms the remote
host uses by using -vv and check the debug output; look first for the
*peer* server KEXINIT proposal (not the earlier *local client* KEXINIT
proposal):

debug2: peer server KEXINIT proposal

a line or two after that, you should see the list of host key algorithms
the remote host is offering; if it contains *only* ssh-rsa then this bug
is relevant.

debug2: host key algorithms: ssh-rsa

Note that by default many systems support multiple algorithms, e.g. you
may see:

debug2: host key algorithms: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss,ecdsa-sha2-nistp256,ssh-
ed25519

in this case, even though the remote host does offer ssh-rsa, it also
supports other algorithms that jammy does support.

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[Bug 1961833] Re: openssh 8.8 breaks login to Canonical servers

2022-02-22 Thread Julian Andres Klode
We generally expect programs to print a depreciation notice to stderr
and not just hide them in release notes, that we, as downstream users
don't read :)

If it doesn't warn during use, it's not properly deprecated.

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[Bug 1961833] Re: openssh 8.8 breaks login to Canonical servers

2022-02-22 Thread Colin Watson
Also, regarding the "without a deprecation notice" claim, this has been
advertised under "Future deprecation notice" in the OpenSSH release
notes since 8.2.

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[Bug 1961833] Re: openssh 8.8 breaks login to Canonical servers

2022-02-22 Thread Colin Watson
No, I'm not going to undo this.  IS shouldn't be running a pre-xenial
OpenSSH on xenial machines in the first place, and it's good to fix
that; and anything older than that is well out of support anyway.

** Changed in: openssh (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Won't Fix

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[Bug 1961833] Re: openssh 8.8 breaks login to Canonical servers

2022-02-22 Thread Sebastien Bacher
** Tags added: rls-jj-incoming

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[Bug 1961833] Re: openssh 8.8 breaks login to canonical servers

2022-02-22 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Question we have to ask: Is breaking support for old servers without a
deprecation notice in the LTS release the best cause of action?

** Summary changed:

- openssh 8.8 breaks login to canonical servers
+ openssh 8.8 breaks login to Canonical servers

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[Bug 1961833] Re: openssh 8.8 breaks login to canonical servers

2022-02-22 Thread Julian Andres Klode
It says

Incompatibility is more likely when connecting to older SSH
implementations that have not been upgraded or have not closely tracked
improvements in the SSH protocol. For these cases, it may be necessary
to selectively re-enable RSA/SHA1 to allow connection and/or user
authentication via the HostkeyAlgorithms and PubkeyAcceptedAlgorithms
options. For example, the following stanza in ~/.ssh/config will enable
RSA/SHA1 for host and user authentication for a single destination host:

Host old-host
HostkeyAlgorithms +ssh-rsa
PubkeyAcceptedAlgorithms +ssh-rsa

So this may be a server too old issue; and we can fix this in internal
tooling.

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