[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-09-04 Thread dfalk
I agree with Brett.  I never got a dialog either.  Steps to reproduce:

1. Fresh install of hardy in my case
2. Set up an ftp site using Places  Connect to Server
3. Upgrade to Firefox 3.0 from beta
4. Observe no dialog.
5. Open up the FTP site that was set up in step 2.  It opens in Firefox

This bug shouldn't be invalid unless you can complete the steps above
without seeing the dialog or you can complete the steps without Firefox
stealing the default.

On a side note, Firefox stealing the default for FTP, even if it asks if
it wants to be the default browser, is confusing behavior when all
you're doing is an upgrade through the update manager.  I would never
want firefox to be the default FTP handler, but I would definitely
upgrade my browser if prompted to, and when asked if it should be
default, I would even answer yes.  Once it becomes the default FTP
handler, there's no way to get it back to nautilus except through gconf.
That is not good at all.

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Re: [Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-09-03 Thread Alexander Sack
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 01:30:30PM -, Paul Kishimoto wrote:
 @Alexander: as I mentioned in comment #1, removing /desktop/gnome/url-
 handlers/ftp fixed the problem.
 

firefox has a feature that makes itself a default handler. It usually
asks you before doing that. but you can select dont ask me again or
something as far as i remember.

 affects ubuntu/firefox-3.0
 status wontfix

 - Alexander


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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-09-03 Thread Brett Alton
I've never seen that dialogue pop up. Firefox taking over the FTP
handler sort of just happens. I'm sure there iis a certain point in
time when it happens, but it definitely happens unknowingly to me; no
dialogue box here.

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Re: [Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-07-05 Thread John Vivirito
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Paul Kishimoto wrote:
 I should note that I've since upgraded to hardy, and I'm not sure how to
 install the gutsy 3.0~b3 package in hardy (or find the .deb for that
 matter). Downgrading to the b5 package (from the release version) had no
 effect.

This isnt a great idea. Installing packages from Gutsy on Hardy can
only cause you problems. You can use what Shaun did and see if it
helps you until we can get to fix this.

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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-07-04 Thread Shaun Crampton
I'm running Hardy and it was a fresh install rather than an upgrade.

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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-07-03 Thread Shaun Crampton
I did the following:

 - Ran mv ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp ~  killall gconfd-2  
killall gnome-panel 
 - Opened Preferences  Preferred Applications
 - Web browser was set to Custom, I selected Firefox from the list
 - Closed the dialog.

The ftp folder did not reappear and opening ftp links opened in Nautilus
not Firefox.

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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-07-03 Thread Paul Kishimoto
I should note that I've since upgraded to hardy, and I'm not sure how to
install the gutsy 3.0~b3 package in hardy (or find the .deb for that
matter). Downgrading to the b5 package (from the release version) had no
effect.

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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-06-25 Thread Paul Kishimoto
@Alexander: as I mentioned in comment #1, removing /desktop/gnome/url-
handlers/ftp fixed the problem.

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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-06-25 Thread brettalton
@Paul:
I think he means: how does it get set to Firefox after the gconf value is 
empty? IE: when does this change occur? Because that is what we need to fix.

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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-06-25 Thread John Vivirito
brettalton wrote:
 you mean that firefox is writting this gconf value? that's broken behaviour 
 and a bug
 
 Yes Sabastian, you are correct. We just need to find out where/when/why 
 Firefox does this.

 My theory is that it occurs when you set 'Firefox' as the default 'Web
 Browser' (which FTP could be umbrella-ed under) in System  Preferences
   
 Preferred Applications. By default in Hardy Heron, Firefox is not
 
 selected (I don't think).

   
Alexander can you please take a look at this bug when you get time
because i thought default browser opening an FTP site was normal not so
much a bug. Maybe we can add an update-alternative for FTP? what app
should open it this way people that use browser for FTP will still be
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   Importance: Wishlist = Low
   Status: New = Incomplete

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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-06-25 Thread Alexander Sack
Paul,

can you still reproduce this issue after removing the gconf keys?

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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-06-25 Thread John Vivirito
Ok Who added ftp handler to gconf? im assuming who ever added it meant for it 
to work this way. But after talking to Alexander he doesnt know who added it to 
gconf that makes me think that wasnt a mozilla packaging error but would need 
to know what package added it there and who the person was.
Its a very large package inventory and alot of people so not sure how to narrow 
this down. any suggestions would be helpful

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Re: [Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-06-24 Thread John Vivirito
Paul Kishimoto wrote:
 I disagree. I didn't want the choice, nor do I think a choice is
 necessary; Nautilus is a sane and very functional default for FTP,
 especially since, as François said, all other Places menu items open
 with Nautilus. Managing remote and local files through the same *file
 manager* is one of the slickest aspects of using GNOME/Ubuntu. Nor are
 FTP servers websites.

 I don't know much about packaging, but it appears to be a *bug* in the
 Firefox packages that caused the unexpected and unwanted change.

   
so instead of choice you just want nautilus to open FTP links?
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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-06-24 Thread Sebastien Bacher
you mean that firefox is writting this gconf value? that's broken
behaviour and a bug

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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-06-24 Thread Paul Kishimoto
Yes, I want Nautilus to just open FTP links.

The gconf keys I mentioned above appeared at some point, and they were
causing the unexpected behaviour. I am suggesting that some script
included in the Firefox *packages*, not Firefox itself, caused those
keys to be inserted. Again, I don't know enough about packaging to fix
this myself, but I *do* know that packages include files besides the
ones that are installed; that some of these files are scripts; and that
those scripts are run when a package is installed or removed.

As you say, Firefox, the browser, is doing what it is expected to do
(when assigned as FTP URL handler). firefox-3.0, the package, version
3.0~b3~cvs20080101t1000+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~gutsy1, is NOT.

** Changed in: firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = New

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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-06-24 Thread brettalton
 you mean that firefox is writting this gconf value? that's broken behaviour 
 and a bug
Yes Sabastian, you are correct. We just need to find out where/when/why Firefox 
does this.

My theory is that it occurs when you set 'Firefox' as the default 'Web
Browser' (which FTP could be umbrella-ed under) in System  Preferences
 Preferred Applications. By default in Hardy Heron, Firefox is not
selected (I don't think).

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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-06-23 Thread brettalton
Confirmed (and marking as so). I was about to submit a duplicate until I
found this.

$ gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp
 needs_terminal = false
 command = /usr/bin/firefox %s
 enabled = true

Maybe this occurs after 'Preferred Applications  Internet  Web
Browser' is set to Firefox? Did anyone else do this, even unknowingly?
If so, Firefox should not be set for FTP accounts, or there should be a
separate section for FTP under 'Preferred Applications  Internet'. My
suggestion, anyway.

Workaround: Go to 'Places  Home Folder', select 'Bookmarks' in Nautilus
and select your FTP bookmark.

Similar bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/12183,
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/24085

They were closed because they were marked as 'user preferences changed',
however, I never changed Firefox to handle my FTP accounts or, if I did,
as I stated above, I never meant to.

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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-06-23 Thread brettalton
Workaround from Sebastian Bacher in bug #12183 
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/12183):
$ mv ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp ~  killall gconfd-2  killall 
gnome-panel

** Also affects: nautilus (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-06-23 Thread Sebastien Bacher
that's not a nautilus bug

** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Low
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)
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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-06-23 Thread John Vivirito
Sebastien Bacher wrote:
 that's not a nautilus bug

 ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Low
  Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)
Status: New = Invalid

   
Im gonna mark this as a wishlist bug for now as it seems you dont want
Firefox to open FTP sites and would rather beable to choose what to open
it with. If this is wrong please let me know and we will see what can
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Re: [Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-06-23 Thread John Vivirito
Sebastien Bacher wrote:
 that's not a nautilus bug

 ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Low
  Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)
Status: New = Invalid

   
Marked this bug as a wishlist bug due to it sounding like everyone would
rather have a choice on what app handles FTP sites. This is most likely
caused by FTP sites are websites and your default browser wants to open
it as it should. If i am wrong on what you are wanting to happen or
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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-06-23 Thread John Vivirito
Marked this bug as a wishlist bug due to it sounding like everyone would
rather have a choice on what app handles FTP sites. This is most likely
caused by FTP sites are websites and your default browser wants to open
it as it should. If i am wrong on what you are wanting to happen or
about what this bug represents please let me know and we will decide
what to do than.

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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-06-23 Thread Paul Kishimoto
I disagree. I didn't want the choice, nor do I think a choice is
necessary; Nautilus is a sane and very functional default for FTP,
especially since, as François said, all other Places menu items open
with Nautilus. Managing remote and local files through the same *file
manager* is one of the slickest aspects of using GNOME/Ubuntu. Nor are
FTP servers websites.

I don't know much about packaging, but it appears to be a *bug* in the
Firefox packages that caused the unexpected and unwanted change.

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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-06-22 Thread dfalk
Same thing happening here.  I'm not sure if I would go so far as to say
that places menu should use nautilus no matter what the default ftp
handler is, but the bug as far as I'm concerned is that the ftp handler
should have been nautilus in the first place.  It just needs to be
nautilus by default IMO

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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-04-26 Thread François Ingelrest
I can confirm this. I edited the gconf entry to change from Firefox to
Nautilus. IMO, places are specific to Nautilus and should be opened with
Nautilus, even if the default FTP handler is not set to use it.

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[Bug 196202] Re: Places menu FTP servers open in firefox-3.0 instead of nautilus

2008-04-25 Thread Paul Kishimoto
Still experiencing this after upgrading to 8.04 and firefox 3.0~b5
+nobinonly-0ubuntu3. In addition, clicking http:// and https:// URLs in
Tomboy, Pidgin and other applications produces no result or There was
an error launching the default action command associated location.

It seems that when I installed the 3.0~b3 or ~b4 package, some
configuration keys had been created:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/ftp
 needs_terminal = false
 command = /usr/lib/firefox-3.0-3.0b4/firefox-3.0 %s
 enabled = true
... with similar results for /chrome, /http and /https

Another user who had not installed the 3.0~b packages before upgrading
from 7.10 to 8.04 reports that the /ftp and /chrome gconf directories
don't exist, and that /http/command and /https/command are both (firefox
%s) (without parentheses). When I manually modified the gconf entries
to match his configuration, the bug disappeared (i.e. Places menu FTP
entries / gnome-open FTP URLs open in Nautilus; HTTP[S] URLs are
clickable in Pidgin/Tomboy/etc.).

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