[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2017-01-21 Thread Tomer Cohen
Ubuntu 16.10 seems to use DejaVu Sans as default.

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2014-08-05 Thread Oded Arbel
@wissotzky: still I would prefer an out of the box solution.

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2014-04-19 Thread wissotzky
Hi there,
Just did a fresh install of 14.04 and the bug is still preset, although in less 
websites.
for instance, if you go to http://www.tapuz.co.il/ you can see the fonts are 
very hard to read there.

In order to fix that, you have to go to Firefox's Preferences--Content
tab-- click 'Advanced' in 'Fonts  Colors'-- Choose 'Hebrew'-- Change
Serif to 'DejaVu Sans'.

This way there is no need to install silly proprietary ms fonts.

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2013-01-25 Thread Adolfo Jayme Barrientos
** No longer affects: firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu)

** No longer affects: xulrunner-1.9 (Ubuntu)

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2012-11-06 Thread Thomas Hotz
** Changed in: xulrunner-1.9 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Invalid

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2012-07-23 Thread mikewhatever
Confirmed! This bug has been present in all versions of Ubuntu and
Firefox, as far as I can remember. I've been changing serif to DejaVu
Sans to work around it.

** Changed in: ubuntu
   Status: Invalid = Confirmed

** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2011-10-20 Thread Fabio Marconi
** Changed in: ubuntu
   Status: Incomplete = Invalid

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2009-12-19 Thread Tomer Cohen
I can confirm this is an upstream bug, which I wish to fix for years.
Fixing it is not to complicated, and won't require too much work, but I
am not too familiar with the default fonts that ship with Ubuntu and
Linux in general. If someone want to help, please contact me.

Workaround: Installing msttcorefonts (Microsoft Windows core fonts) will
make the fonts more readable, but this package is non-free and is not
installed by default.

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2009-12-17 Thread mangar
I've removed myself as a subscriber to this bug. I won't be able to
provide further information.

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2009-12-16 Thread mangar
I've used a VirtualBox image of ubuntu karmic from:

http://downloads.sourceforge.net/virtualboximage/ubuntu-9.10.vdi.7z
(from http://virtualbox.wordpress.com/images/ubuntu/ )

updated with the latest packages, as of 14.12.2009, with no changes to
the default install, running on a windows 7 x64 host, Virtualbox 3.1

after submitting the bug, I've made the following changes:
1. changed the theme to dust.
2. changed the wallpaper.
4. changed the anti-aliasing to full.

It had no effect on the font readability (as expected).
I do not know what was the version of Firefox before or after the updates. If 
it's a problem with the font itself, updating Firefox won't fix the problem.

I'm well aware that changing the font will fix the problem with the
font, trivially.

@Micah - can you add a screenshot of ynet before and after you've
installed the Hebrew language pack?

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2009-12-15 Thread mangar
** Changed in: xulrunner-1.9 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed = Confirmed

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2009-12-15 Thread Micah Gersten
@mangar, 
thank you for the updates.  I cannot see these issues any more in Firefox 3.5.6 
on Ubuntu Karmic.  I added the Hebrew Language pack and set that as default and 
tried a few of the font suggestions in this bug (FreeSans, serif) and I can 
read everything just fine.  Could you please let us know what version of Ubuntu 
you are running with which version of Firefox?

Thanks.

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2009-12-15 Thread Micah Gersten
BTW, the pages in your list were fine with the serif font even before I
installed the Hebrew language pack.

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2009-12-14 Thread Przemysław Kulczycki
Can someone with a knowledge of Hebrew language check if this bug is
still present in the latest version of Ubuntu? (9.10. codename: Karmic
Koala)

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2009-12-14 Thread Rich Wales
The vowel-pointed Hebrew text in the Keturah and Mezuzah articles in
the English Wikipedia look OK using Firefox 3.5.5 on Ubuntu 9.10.

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2009-12-14 Thread Rich Wales
Minor correction:  I did see one small flaw in the pointing of the word
קִדְּשַׁנוּ (kideshanu = sanctified us) in the Mezuzah article
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mezuzah) -- the schwa under the daled is
shifted to the right (instead of being directly lined up with the
vertical stroke).  This same flaw occurs in the monospaced font used
when editing a Wikipedia page.  When I look at this same page using
Firefox 3.5.5 on a Windows 7 system, this problem is not there.  In any
case, the bulk of the pointed Hebrew text looks just fine now --
previously, all the pointed text looked awful.

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2009-12-14 Thread mangar
The fonts on www,ynet.co.il (and other sites that expect to use similar font), 
are still unreadable.
For illustration, look at the screenshots liorwohl submitted two years ago.
for solution, look at the free, open source solution I've suggested 3 years ago.
For the record, using Serif as the default font (as in the current 
configuration), will look terrible in any language.

FWIW, I no longer use Linux, and I've run Ubuntu from a virtual machine.

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2009-12-14 Thread mangar
Additional sites that are shown using serif (totally illegible):


firefox.co.il/he  - goes without saying
linux.org.il- well..
ynet.co.il  - Israel's #1 tabloid
globes.co.il  - Israel's #1 economics 
website.
bankhapoalim.co.il  - Israel's largest bank online site.
fxp.co.il- The most popular under 
12y/o forum in Israel
nana10.co.il- entertainment focus website
clalit.co.il - Israel's largest medical 
services insurance company
memri.org.il - Right wing political site
myparty.org.il  - Left wing political site
http://inbarhovav.blogspot.com/ - pretty esoteric electronics blog
il.msn.com  - well..
parts of hamakor.co.il, iglu.co.il  - Israel's FOSS main website.
abmaps.co.il   - major maps website
walla.co.il- second tier portal.
Layla.co.il   - Israel's largest club and 
performances site.
parts of habama.co.il  - Israel's premier culture site.

All of those sites are either major, or second tier. ALL of them are
unusable out of the box for Hebrew reading users.

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2008-10-12 Thread Yossi Gil
I use 8.10  Intrepid Ibex. The problem is here. Cannot read Hebrew in firefox. 
I installed the packages as you suggested. That is:  language-pack-gnome-he-base
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Re: [Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2008-06-11 Thread Alexander Sack
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 01:00:13PM -, mangar wrote:
 The bug is still appliable
 

Ensure that you hvae install hebrew language support in System -
Administration.

Then restart your system. if you still see this, its probably a font
package thing. requesting reassignment

 affects ubuntu/firefox
 status invalid

 affects ubuntu/firefox-3.0
 status invalid

 affects ubuntu
 status incomplete
 tag needs-reassignment

 - Alexander


** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
   Status: Won't Fix = Invalid

** Changed in: firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed = Invalid

** Also affects: ubuntu
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: Incomplete

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2008-06-03 Thread John Vivirito
This bug is a duplicate of a bug already reported I will look for it
sometime today but its still before 7am here and im waiting to get to
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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2008-06-03 Thread John Vivirito
EVERYONE please let me know if you suffer from same thing as bug #23402 that is 
the bug i was looking for that i know we fixed in language-pack-gnome-he and 
language-pack-gnome-he-base.
Can you please install these or if already there please make sure you have 
version 1:8.04+20080527 these are found in the following repo, please add these 
2 repos to your hardy /etc/apt/sources.list save and close it than run sudo 
apt-get update than sudo apt-get upgrade (or) dist-upgrade. as long as you keep 
all your repos to Hardy you are in no danger of upgrading to intrepid assuming 
this is Hardy install.

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2008-06-03 Thread John Vivirito
OOPS sorry here is the lines to add to your /etc/apt/sources.list file

deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed main restricted 
universe multiverse
deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed main restricted 
universe multiverse

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2008-06-03 Thread John Vivirito
This bug was fixed in new version of 'he' from upstream and i could
swear we added the fix into language-pack-gnome-he  please try to
install that if its not already see if it fixes it (dont forget to
restart firefox after installing before testing.) Im still looking for
the bug

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2008-06-03 Thread Alexander Sack
firefox 3 is the only place where this gets fixed.

** Also affects: firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: xulrunner-1.9 (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Won't Fix

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2008-06-03 Thread Alexander Sack
somewhat a dupe of bug 234029

** Changed in: firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Fix Committed

** Changed in: xulrunner-1.9 (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Fix Committed

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2008-06-01 Thread mangar
The bug is still appliable

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2008-03-13 Thread mangar
The problem still exists for Hardy alpha, as of the 14/3/2008. 
ynet.co.il, haaretz.co.il.
(default installation).

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2008-03-01 Thread liorwohl
the problem is fixed in firefox 3 that is currently in Hardy :-)
firefox now use a readable hebrew font by default. (tested with 
http://ynet.co.il)

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2007-10-04 Thread liorwohl
to make the fonts look good in websites which don't choose font or
choose font that there is only on Windows you just need to change sarif
to sans-sarif. no need for culmus...

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2007-10-04 Thread liorwohl

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2007-04-10 Thread Rich Wales
Alexander Sack asked:

 So what font settings do you have to choose to make firefox detect it
properly?

I didn't have to make any changes at all to Firefox's default settings
to have Hebrew text show up.  If, by properly, you mean settings that
would cause vowel-pointed text to show up properly, I still haven't seen
this sort of text displayed properly in Firefox on an Ubuntu system --
though it shows up just fine in Firefox on a Windows system.

Note that Hebrew text without vowel points looks fine in Firefox on
Ubuntu.  Most modern Hebrew text is written without those extra dots and
lines (native speakers generally know which vowels are required in which
words without needing visual cues).  However, in those examples of
Hebrew text that do include vowel points (such as sacred texts, or rare
cases where vowels must be indicated in ordinary text as the only way to
resolve an ambiguity), it is essential that they are positioned
correctly, or else there is a bug that needs to be fixed.

 BTW, are you running hebrew ubuntu?

No.  I'm running an English-language installation of Ubuntu.

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Re: [Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2007-04-09 Thread Alexander Sack
On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 06:52:20PM -, Rich Wales wrote:
 OK, here's the same Hebrew text sample as before, as viewed in Konqueror
 on my Ubuntu Feisty system.  Most of the vowel points are in their
 correct places, but a few are shown in separate boxes instead of being
 merged into the preceding letter (i.e., the character to the right of
 the box).  This is NOT acceptable; the text really needs to look just
 like the Windows example in my previous comment.
 

So what font settings do you have to choose to make firefox detect it
properly. BTW, are you running hebrew ubuntu?

 - Alexander

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2007-04-08 Thread Rich Wales
Here's a sample of Hebrew text from the same WIkipedia article
(Mezuzah) -- as seen in Firefox in Windows.  This is what Hebrew with
vowel points is supposed to look like.  Again, note that the vowel
points are positioned under, over, or in the middle of the letters --
which is NOT the way they currently look when I view this or other pages
in Firefox while running Ubuntu.

I checked my Hebrew font settings in Firefox, and they are exactly the
same as what mangar reported earlier.

For comparison's sake, I installed Konqueror and looked at this same web
page in Konqueror.  The text of the Hebrew blessing looks better in
Konqueror, but there are still problems.  I'll include a screen shot in
a followup comment.

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2007-04-08 Thread Rich Wales
OK, here's the same Hebrew text sample as before, as viewed in Konqueror
on my Ubuntu Feisty system.  Most of the vowel points are in their
correct places, but a few are shown in separate boxes instead of being
merged into the preceding letter (i.e., the character to the right of
the box).  This is NOT acceptable; the text really needs to look just
like the Windows example in my previous comment.

** Attachment added: Same sample text from Mezuzah Wikipedia article, as 
viewed in Konquerer
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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2007-03-12 Thread Rich Wales
I've noticed some problems with the placement of vowel points when
Hebrew text is displayed in Firefox.  For example, in the Wikipedia
article Keturah, the dot that indicates the u vowel is showing up to
the right of the letter vav (vertical line), whereas it ought to be
positioned to the left of the vav.  (See attached screen shot.)

** Attachment added: Sample text from Wikipedia article; note misplaced 
shuruq vowel point
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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2007-03-12 Thread Rich Wales
Here's another example -- again from Wikipedia (article Mezuzah), but
using a different font.  The vowel points are positioned completely
wrong -- appearing after (i.e., to the left of) the letters, whereas
most vowel points should appear under or over the letters.  (See
attached screen shot.)

If you aren't familiar with Hebrew writing, you might want to look at
the Wikipedia article Niqqud for an explanation of how vowels are
indicated in certain texts.

** Attachment added: Sample text from Wikipedia article; note how vowel points 
are shown to the left of letters instead of under letters
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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2007-02-24 Thread David Farning
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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2007-02-21 Thread Alexander Sack
so what packages are missing in default hebrew install? Can you add them
as comment and maybe extent bug description?

Thanks!

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2007-02-21 Thread mangar
using the Hebrew font package Culmus, already in ubuntu,

firefox settings:

Proportional: Sans Serif Size(pixels) 16
Serif : FreeSans
Sans-serif : FreeSans
Monospace : Monospace Size(pixels) 12

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2007-02-19 Thread Alexander Sack
is this still an issue in latest firefox (e.g. edgy or feisty)?

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 Assignee: (unassigned) = Mozilla Team
   Status: Confirmed = Needs Info

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Re: [Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2007-02-19 Thread Alex
On Monday 19 February 2007 18:25:08 Alexander Sack wrote:
 is this still an issue in latest firefox (e.g. edgy or feisty)?
Well, there is a workaround: installing the additional fonts. However, I think 
this problem still has to be handled, for the following reasons:

1. the system should work well by default. If it means that those fonts should 
be enabled in a default config (in Hebrew locale), maybe that's the solution.
2. Note that the problem does not happen in Konqueror - therefore, it looks 
like some configuration bug.

 ** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
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Status: Confirmed = Needs Info

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2006-12-13 Thread mangar
i've asked at the local linux site : www.whatsup.org.il

it seems that the problem wasn't solved
(there's some screenshots there, although most of the text is in hebrew)

http://whatsup.org.il/index.php?name=PNphpBB2file=viewtopicp=226630#226630

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2006-12-13 Thread mangar
err... the relevant screen shot is at the post with the words ubuntu,
arial,msttcorefonts

thanks for your interest!

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2006-12-13 Thread David Farning
Manger,

Thanks for all the time your have invested in helping with this issue.

My inability to read Hebrew is make it difficult to work on this issue.
I had the same problem with a Thai language issue the other day.

Would you, or someone, from your local users group install the official
firefox from  http://www.mozilla.com to see if the issue exist upstream
as well.  If the problem exist there as well we can file a bug at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/

Thanks
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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2006-12-13 Thread mangar
i've tried the following:
1. backed up ~./mozilla,
2. remove ~./mozilla
3. downloaded firefox 2 from mozilla.com, extracted, run.

result:
the fonts on www.ynet.co.il looks fine.

caveat:
i've got msttcorefonts, as well as culmus and culmus-fancy (hebrew fonts 
packages) installed.

i've asked at the forums, whether anyone there can try firefox from mozilla.com
on a clean installation, and i'll update when there will be results

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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2006-12-12 Thread David Farning
Mangar,

Is this still and issue in edgy.

Thanks
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[Bug 23267] Re: Default Hebrew fonts in Firefox are unreadable, ugly

2006-09-27 Thread Ian Jackson
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