[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
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[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
** Changed in: xorg-server Importance: Medium = Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 Title: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
First of all, I have not been able to reach the website for this bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/264196, in over a week. I must point out that this bug is now happening approximately half the time I start a Linux session. It's happening again today. This is despite the fix. So, sometimes the fix works, and sometimes it does not, on the same compuuter. It's driving me crazy even as I type this message. I'vvve already corrected a bunch of the repeat types. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Okay, um...today the USB keyboard is working fine again. I didn't change anything. Never mind! -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
thanks to everyone. I am very glad to have this bug fixed. Time for one last edit... -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
** Description changed: + Welcome. This bug was introduced with the new Xorg in the 8.10 + (Intrepid Ibex) release of Ubuntu. It had 2 effects: the default + keyboard repeat rate was unusably high, and there was no obvious way to + change the repeat rate. There were a few hacks which could effect at + least partial fixes, the discussion of which you will find below. + + The bug has been fixed upstream, and, in theory, will be included in the + 9.10 (Karma Koala) release of Ubuntu. The fix has also been backported + to the 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) release of Ubuntu. It does not seem like + the fix will be backported to 8.10 (Intrepid). + + Thus, those affected by this bug should install 9.04. + Q.E.D. + (If there are any continued difficulties, please file a new bug report.) + + + == Old bug report == go to System Preferences Keyboard General The controls under Repeat Keys are failing to properly adjust the timing of how fast keys are repeated when held down. I filed under gnome, but a person there thinks its an xorg bug in ubuntu: http://bugzilla.gnome.org show_bug.cgi?id=550242 It has become quite clear that this is a problem with the xorg-evdev driver, and intrepids new hotplug architecture. Here is a workaround for this: Temporarily add the following to your xorg.conf: Section ServerFlags Option AutoAddDevices off EndSection Restart X, and you will be able to change the settings. Once changed, you can remove those lines from your xorg.conf (which is recommended since setting AutoAddDevices to off can interfere with your keyboard) Another (and possibly better) workaround is to set the repeat rate manually, see this comment for directions: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/264196/comments/26 This bug may also be related to bug 278078 -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Not fixed yet! I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 amd 64 Desktop and I've still got the problem unfortunately. Saw the reference to xserver-xorg-input- evdev - 1:2.1.1-1ubuntu4 , but I cannot get it through either enabling Ubuntu backports or proposed repositories either since its not available through the other standard repos. I had success for about a week to a week and a half using the rc.local fix. But Ubuntu took this away from me (in updates I think). I've also tried the xorg.conf server flags workaround, but it was shortlived. Semi-worked but then gave up the ghost. Now I'm back to square one with no control over my keyboard repeat rate. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Please stop this noise. The bug IS fixed IN JAUNTY AND KARMIC, as the updated description clearly says, and not in Intrepid. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Intending no disrespect here to the developers, I am less than happy about the apparent decision not to try to fix this bug in Intrepid. It was my understanding that Intrepid was supposed to be supported for another year. Also, the conflicting reports regarding the nature and extent of this bug -- people saying the bug appears and goes away for no apparent reason, people disagreeing on whether fixes work for them or not, etc. -- suggest to me that the problem still might not be fully understood, and that this isn't a good time to abandon groups of users yet. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
@Thane Yep, no fix for 8.10. You will get it with 9.04 at the end of this month. (If you really need the fix now, you can upgrade to the 9.04 beta with the command `update-manager -d`. But, that has the drawback that its still beta, and still has bugs in it) Good luck. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
@Rich Wales: yes, Intrepid is supported awhile longer, but only for bugs that cause data loss or security issues. @Reuben Thomas: hit unsubscribe. /me reaches for the unsubscribe button himself. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
The bug is fully understood and fully fixed, but it's quite complicated, as it involves multiple components, specifically, the interaction between X and kernel auto-repeat. That's also why the suggested workarounds are quite different, and, presumably, why the devs are not keen to backport the fix to Intrepid, though personally I think putting out a distro in which 99% of users will conclude that autorepeat is broken is very unfortunate, and not fixing it is really dumb from a PR perspective, if nothing else. But maybe it doesn't register in the big picture. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
The bug is back. The edit in rc.local fixed it for 2-1/2 weeks, but today the old fast-repeat misbehavior has returned on my USB keyboard, but not on the laptop's built-in keyboard. I checked rc.local and my fix is still there, has not disappeared. I am using Mint 6.0 On 4/4/09, Launchpad Bug Tracker 264...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: This bug was fixed in the package xserver-xorg-input-evdev - 1:2.1.1-1ubuntu4 --- xserver-xorg-input-evdev (1:2.1.1-1ubuntu4) jaunty; urgency=low [Bryce Harrington] * rules: Adding 'patch' to the build task appears to be unnecessary. [Jeffrey Knockel] * Add 102_filter_kernel_repeat.patch: Allow software to control keyboard repeat rate. (LP: #345397, LP: #264196) -- Bryce Harrington br...@ubuntu.com Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:45:01 -0700 ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in X.Org X server: Fix Released Status in “xserver-xorg-input-evdev” source package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: go to System Preferences Keyboard General The controls under Repeat Keys are failing to properly adjust the timing of how fast keys are repeated when held down. I filed under gnome, but a person there thinks its an xorg bug in ubuntu: http://bugzilla.gnome.org show_bug.cgi?id=550242 It has become quite clear that this is a problem with the xorg-evdev driver, and intrepids new hotplug architecture. Here is a workaround for this: Temporarily add the following to your xorg.conf: Section ServerFlags Option AutoAddDevices off EndSection Restart X, and you will be able to change the settings. Once changed, you can remove those lines from your xorg.conf (which is recommended since setting AutoAddDevices to off can interfere with your keyboard) Another (and possibly better) workaround is to set the repeat rate manually, see this comment for directions: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/264196/comments/26 This bug may also be related to bug 278078 -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Two Outstanding Issues ? 1) Did anyone else have the problem that the fixes did not work for a non-admin account? (even when permissions temporarily changed to admin to apply the fixes). The only solution was to create a new user account, for which the fixes already applied worked fine. (i.e. they were in place as soon as the account was created) 2) The problem occurred on a desktop with a wireless multimedia keyboard with PS/2 connector (earlier posts suggested it only affected USB keyboards and PS/2 would fix). -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
This bug was fixed in the package xserver-xorg-input-evdev - 1:2.1.1-1ubuntu4 --- xserver-xorg-input-evdev (1:2.1.1-1ubuntu4) jaunty; urgency=low [Bryce Harrington] * rules: Adding 'patch' to the build task appears to be unnecessary. [Jeffrey Knockel] * Add 102_filter_kernel_repeat.patch: Allow software to control keyboard repeat rate. (LP: #345397, LP: #264196) -- Bryce Harrington br...@ubuntu.com Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:45:01 -0700 ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
FYI: I've workaround this bug upgrading to Jaunty. Jaunty seems to resolve it, or, at least, I haven't the Left, Down and End keys issue, and all seems OK. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
I had this issue as well with a USB keyboard. It drove me nuts until I found out it was a bug; this really should have a higher priority than it's been given. The kbdrate fix didn't work for me. The xorg.conf fix worked but only if I kept the changes in; I couldn't enable them temporarily and then disable them as some posters could. I opted for enabling Slow Keys (per Sarath in message #18) plus running a startup script containing the three xset commands (listed by Ricardo Perez Lopez in message #41). -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
OK, understood. Could you remind me (and others) how to safely uninstall your patched package and revert to the regular version of same? -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Yes, here's the GUI instructions: Select the package in synaptic In menu, go to Package - Force version... Then select the version you want to downgrade to. Apply this downgrade, restart X or your computer, and you should be back to using intrepid's version. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Would it be possible to keep further discussion to the forums? This bug report is already unhelpfully long, and it's hard to extract the useful information, namely: what is the bug? where is it present? when is it likely to be fixed? how can I work around it? All of these questions are now answered, but some of the remarks about evdev and the arrow keys in the preceding few comments show that at least some users have not managed to find at least some of this information. Example: an announcement of a patched evdev package is useful; discussion of how to install and uninstall it do not belong here. Having said that, maybe the Ubuntu devs could take note: long threads such as this one in the BTS often reflect bugs that are inconveniencing many users, and quite how they imagine that having unconfigurable keyboard autorepeat two releases in a row[1] is anything approaching acceptable, I do not understand. [1]Hacks and workarounds don't count. I am talking about the standard configuration mechanism that is all that 99% of users will ever try. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
The bug for inclusion of the patch into jaunty is bug 345397. It also has summarized mostly what you're looking for, including steps to reproduce, a theory of the problem, and a patch that you can test. Future discussion of one's experience with the jaunty patch should go there. Other discussion, including how to install the jaunty patch, and so on can go here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1101190 -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Hi, I've put a patched version of xserver-xorg-input-evdev into my ppa using the patch that Ricardo Pérez López linked to. My ppa is here: https://launchpad.net/~jeff250/+archive/ppa It seems to have fixed the problem for me. If this works for others, and there are no side effects, perhaps we could coerce an Ubuntu dev to include the patch in the jaunty release. Note that if you want to test it, first undo any previous workaround that you may have use before, and then reboot to make sure that the problem comes back. Then install the new package (version 2.1.1-1ubuntu4~ppa1.1) from my ppa and reboot again (or just restart X if you are comfortable doing this). Then play around with the keyboard rate settings and see if they work. Also note any problems that you might have with the new package that you didn't have before. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
that package fixes it for me. I'm able to change my repeat rates! Yay! Thanks Jeff250. Anyway, I'm the original bug reporter, and I consider this proof positive that this bug is resolved upstream, and we may be able to get it resolved downstream. ( I kinda wish I knew the details of patching and packaging. Wish I could have done this myself.) Anyway, here's how I see it. Im the original bug reporter. Im gona open a new bug dedicated to this fix, and getting it backported to jaunty. If this fix does not work for you, please say so, and open a new bug. Otherwise, if everything goes well, I will close out this bug. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
I filed the request for inclusion in jaunty here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input- evdev/+bug/345397 -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
@danielhollocher: Can you test if the key repeat delay of the Left, Down and End keys works well? (As was reported on bug #278078.) -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Ricardo: I've never had that problem. Sorry. ** Changed in: xorg-server Bugwatch: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #17925 = freedesktop.org Bugzilla #17500 Status: Confirmed = Unknown -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Actually, I do have that problem on intrepid. I never tested on jaunty. Testing now on jaunty with the evdev from the archive, I don't have the problem. I will downgrade, and see if I did have that problem on jaunty. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
** Changed in: xorg-server Status: Unknown = Fix Released -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Jeff, will your patch work on intrepid? I would really like a fix to this problem ASAP, but I depend on my machine being stable and really can't upgrade to jaunty while it's still pre-release. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
It seems to work just as well in intrepid. I've now uploaded intrepid packages to the ppa. Just make sure you use intrepid on the deb/deb-src lines, not jaunty. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Thanks. I installed the patch in intrepid just now. It seems to work fine, EXCEPT that the left and down arrow keys do not repeat AT ALL (no matter how long I hold them down). -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
I just tested that, and I can confirm the same regression on intrepid. Since you, Daniel Hollocher, and I can confirm the left/down arrow regression on intrepid when we use the patched evdev packages, we should probably let go of intrepid and focus on jaunty, since both Daniel and I cannot reproduce this regression on jaunty when using the patched evdev packages. I believe that the left/down regression was fixed somewhere in between intrepid and jaunty's xserver, since, when I cherry-picked the latest jaunty xserver packages onto my intrepid box, the regression was not present, even when using my patched evdev package. (Note that cherry picking packages, in general, is a risky idea in terms of overall stability, and I've since reverted the xserver packages on my intrepid box to the intrepid versions, but doing it can be useful for experiments like this.) I will leave the intrepid evdev packages in my ppa anyways, in case someone wants to still play around with them, but I don't advise using them, and it's too late for any fix like this to appear in intrepid anyways, whereas at least the chance for this fix to appear in jaunty is nonzero. And since jaunty thus far has *not* been shown to be affected by the left/down arrow regression, this is why we still need more testers for the ppa package in jaunty. As an aside, I also tested evdev-2.2.0 (a much newer version of the evdev in jaunty) on my jaunty box. I won't put it in my ppa, but it automatically reflects the patch for the repeat bug that I used to patch the package in my ppa archive. Like we would expect, I also tested it to solve repeat bug. So, if we cannot patch jaunty's evdev package to include the fix, the good news is that the first ubuntu version (likely jaunty+1) to use evdev-2.2.0 or greater will get this fix for free. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
I can confirm that wolfwitch is correct. This morning, after restart, my USB keyboard is working properly. :o) -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
I confirm both, the bug and the fix with kbdrate in rc.local, tested in my laptop and desktop, this one with a usb keyboard. Intrepid with latest updates. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
kbdrate works with my USB keyboard adapted to PS/2 but not when placed in rc.local. Have a nice day -- George George Fragos fra...@gmail.com http://FragosTech.com 73 East Swift Ave. Fresno CA 93704 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Glauco gla...@ubuntu-br.net wrote: I confirm both, the bug and the fix with kbdrate in rc.local, tested in my laptop and desktop, this one with a usb keyboard. Intrepid with latest updates. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
George, I entered your code in the terminal (with a change in the delay rate more to my tastes) and got this output: sudo kbdrate -r 15 -d 750 [sudo] password for gumby: Typematic Rate set to 15.0 cps (delay = 750 ms) And I can report that the internal keyboard in my laptop now responds correctly, but the external USB keyboard I use most of the time does not. It still displays the old repeating key behavior. Is there any workaround that works for a USB keyboard attached to a laptop? -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
And everyone should note that this issue also applies to desktops, since most keyboards nowadays use USB (and may or may not come with one of those purple USB-to-PS/2 keyboard adapters). Once I read here that the problem was specifically affecting USB keyboards, I knew enough to try using the PS/2 jack (and I happened to have one of those old adapters lying around!) -- but we cannot expect the average, inexperienced user to have either the knowhow or the wherewithal to do this. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
The workaround posted near the top of this bug, submitted by Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto, seems to be the best fix for this for now. It works on my laptops and home desktop when using any keyboard... Just add: kbdrate -r 25 -d 500 ...to /etc/rc.local I just put it right above exit 0 at the bottom of the file. Frankly, I can't believe this hasn't been fixed yet. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Rich, I should also point out that my new laptop, (like most of the ones i looked at when i was shopping around), doesn't even HAVE a PS/2 port! -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
wolfwitch, Okay, I edited rc.local, saved the change, and my USB keyboard still has the same problem. Do you have to restart maybe? -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Gumby, the builtin keyboard on a laptop is hooked up (internally) to the computer the same way as an external PS/2-style keyboard would be. This explains why the workaround (with a kbdrate command) fixes your laptop's internal keyboard. Wolfwitch, when you say that the kbdrate workaround works for you when using any keyboard, are you trying this with both PS/2 and USB keyboards? If this workaround fixes a USB keyboard, I think that's news. And I'm having a hard time, too, accepting that this bug is too hard to fix quickly. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
@Gumby- Yes, you would need to restart. The file rc.local runs when your computer boots up (just before Gnome loads). The one problem with this fix is it briefly displays the terminal screen just before gdm loads, which isn't nice visually, but it at least makes the computer usable. @Rich Wales- Sorry, yes- I mean USB keyboards. I can't even remember the last time I used a PS/2 one. I had the key repeat problem on a total of four machines- 3 laptops and 1 desktop (mix of home and work) with USB keyboards. This fixed the problem on all of them. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
George, You mean issue a command every time you start the OS? Caan you tell me specificallyy what i need to do? I am a Linux newbie. I assume you mean use the Terminal. Can you tell me exactly what to type in the terminal? As far as i'm concerned, this bug is very critical. It is so bad I've had to correct several involuntary character repeats in this single post. Iit makes me not want to use the OS, frankly. But I will if I caan fix this. It really makes Linux look Not Ready For Prime Time, if you know what I mean. I'm amazed more people don't complain. Maybe they are just watching movies on theirr PCs, not typing. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Setting kbdrate in rc.local doesn't work with an external keyboard. The only fix I've found is to run kbdrate after the Ubuntu GUI has fully started. Have a nice day -- George George Fragos fra...@gmail.com http://FragosTech.com 73 East Swift Ave. Fresno CA 93704 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Gumby gumby...@gmail.com wrote: uh-oh. reading all the posts, I just read that editing /etc/rc.local will fix the internal laptop keyboard but not an attached USB keyboard, which is what I mostly use! :( -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
uh-oh. reading all the posts, I just read that editing /etc/rc.local will fix the internal laptop keyboard but not an attached USB keyboard, which is what I mostly use! :( -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Jorge, Thanks for this workaround. The repeating key problem is driving me crazy! Can you tell me one thing? I am a Linux newbie. I'm running Mint 6.0, which is based on Ubuntu 8.10. I see that i can edit the file /etc/rc.local with gedit, but I am afraid of screwing up my system if I don't do it exactly right. Can you tell me exactly where in rc.local to put the line: kbdrate -r 25 -d 500 ? does it go at the end, or before the exit 0 or where? You said that you just added the line to the file, but that is too vague for me to be able to implement your workaround. Thanks. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Open a terminal window and type sudo kbdrate -r 15 -d 1000. You'll be asked for a password, enter your user password. This will yield a delay of 1 sec and repeat at 15 cps. You can choose different values if you wish -- these worked for me. To simplify the entry I created the following two line shell script and placed it in /usr/local/bin/kbfix. The command is now kbfix. #!/bin/bash sudo kbdrate -r 15 -d 1000 Have a nice day -- George George Fragos fra...@gmail.com http://FragosTech.com 73 East Swift Ave. Fresno CA 93704 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Gumby gumby...@gmail.com wrote: George, You mean issue a command every time you start the OS? Caan you tell me specificallyy what i need to do? I am a Linux newbie. I assume you mean use the Terminal. Can you tell me exactly what to type in the terminal? As far as i'm concerned, this bug is very critical. It is so bad I've had to correct several involuntary character repeats in this single post. Iit makes me not want to use the OS, frankly. But I will if I caan fix this. It really makes Linux look Not Ready For Prime Time, if you know what I mean. I'm amazed more people don't complain. Maybe they are just watching movies on theirr PCs, not typing. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
As best I can tell, this kbdrate command DOES NOT WORK AT ALL on my system (Intrepid, 2.6.27-11-generic). I have a Microsoft Digital Media Pro keyboard (configured in Keyboard Preferences as a Generic 105-key (Intl) PC model), which I've tried connecting to my desktop both via its native USB connector and via a purple adapter to the PS/2 keyboard jack. I've tried kbdrate -r 4 -d 750, both in /etc/rc.local and in a terminal window, but I still get a much faster keyboard autorepeat no matter what I do. The xorg.conf workaround also DOES NOT WORK AT ALL for me. I am most definitely not a novice, but I fully agree with Gumby that this is a critical bug for novices. Even if one of the workarounds we've been discussing did happen to work, it is not acceptable to expect a newbie to type a command in a terminal window (much less edit a configuration file) even ONCE -- to say nothing of doing it every time they restart or log in. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Unfortunately this command can't be used to display the current values. Without parameters it sets the delay to .25 sec. I only know that if I use kbdrate as over it sets a long enough delay for the entire session. Have a nice day -- George George Fragos fra...@gmail.com http://FragosTech.com 73 East Swift Ave. Fresno CA 93704 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Rich Wales ri...@richw.org wrote: As best I can tell, this kbdrate command DOES NOT WORK AT ALL on my system (Intrepid, 2.6.27-11-generic). I have a Microsoft Digital Media Pro keyboard (configured in Keyboard Preferences as a Generic 105-key (Intl) PC model), which I've tried connecting to my desktop both via its native USB connector and via a purple adapter to the PS/2 keyboard jack. I've tried kbdrate -r 4 -d 750, both in /etc/rc.local and in a terminal window, but I still get a much faster keyboard autorepeat no matter what I do. The xorg.conf workaround also DOES NOT WORK AT ALL for me. I am most definitely not a novice, but I fully agree with Gumby that this is a critical bug for novices. Even if one of the workarounds we've been discussing did happen to work, it is not acceptable to expect a newbie to type a command in a terminal window (much less edit a configuration file) even ONCE -- to say nothing of doing it every time they restart or log in. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
I wasn't talking about trying to use the command to display current values. When I said this 'kbdrate' command, I was referring generically to the command (with an appropriate, but unspecified argument list). And I'm not sure why kbdrate -r 4 -d 750 works for you, because (as I said) it's not working for me. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
I can't say why it works for me and not you -- it does work for me. kbdrate is picky about arguments. Try man kbdrate. I've no more insight on this issue. Have a nice day -- George George Fragos fra...@gmail.com http://FragosTech.com 73 East Swift Ave. Fresno CA 93704 On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Rich Wales ri...@richw.org wrote: I wasn't talking about trying to use the command to display current values. When I said this 'kbdrate' command, I was referring generically to the command (with an appropriate, but unspecified argument list). And I'm not sure why kbdrate -r 4 -d 750 works for you, because (as I said) it's not working for me. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
And for reasons I can't explain, when I tried kbdrate -r 4 -d 750 again just now, it WORKED. No idea why it worked this time, but not earlier. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Reporting an additional element to repeat key/slow key bug... On Intrepid Desktop with Multimedia keyboard. Cursor very slow. Increase repeat key speed only helped for first inch of movement. Enabling and adjusting slow keys solved that problem, but then I couldn't scroll backwards, or enter text into boxes (e.g. mail password, etc.). Everytime I clicked the keyboard the coloured title bar flashed. Here's what happened with the fixes: - I have admin account and a limited permissions user account. - Applied the fixes as admin, keyboard works again. - Changed to user account - problem still evident. - I changed user permissions to admin and re-applied fixes - no effect. - I created a new limited permissions user account, and the keyboard works fine. I'm now transferring everything to the new user account. (I'm very grateful for the fixes. I had to apply both to get the number pad/movement keys working. I do have a mm keyboard, but am not bothered about the mm bits.) Addendum: re importance of this bug - I find it a plague, I'm afraid. I'm a writer and constantly scroll around documents. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
I notice that the part of the fix for this bug in the X server has now made it into Jaunty (xserver-xorg-core 1.6.0) but the part that needs to go into evdev has not, because it's been applied to the evdev 2.2 branch, and Jaunty currently has 2.1.1. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
The following worked flawlessly for me with a few speed adjustment tries. From Terminal, sudo vim /etc/rc.local(to edit the rc.local file). Added the following line before the exit line: kbdrate -r 12 -d 500 The 12 figure lets me read about 3 lines continuously scrolling out of about every 20 in a daily newsletter and keep up with the scroll. If you need the scroll a bit slower, try 10 instead of 12 and conversely try 14 if you need it a bit faster for your purposes. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
On my system setting the delay in rc.local has no effect. It only seems to work from the desktop. Have a nice day -- George George Fragos fra...@gmail.com http://FragosTech.com 73 East Swift Ave. Fresno CA 93704 On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Thane thane.po...@gmail.com wrote: The following worked flawlessly for me with a few speed adjustment tries. From Terminal, sudo vim /etc/rc.local(to edit the rc.local file). Added the following line before the exit line: kbdrate -r 12 -d 500 The 12 figure lets me read about 3 lines continuously scrolling out of about every 20 in a daily newsletter and keep up with the scroll. If you need the scroll a bit slower, try 10 instead of 12 and conversely try 14 if you need it a bit faster for your purposes. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Seems odd George... Worked fine on my system. Here's my entire /etc/rc.local file #!/bin/sh -e # # rc.local # # This script is executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel. # Make sure that the script will exit 0 on success or any other # value on error. # # In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution # bits. # # By default this script does nothing. #The following line is for adjusting keybd repeat rate kbdrate -r 12 -d 500 exit 0 -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
I confirm that this bug occurs on Ubuntu 8.10 on a Dell Inspiron 6400 laptop. It has not yet been fixed in Jaunty alpha 5. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
I don't know why this was set to bug #17500, an old bug. #17925 makes more sense. Anyway, I'm testing on jaunty, and the bug persists. I'm curious, is this happening to anyone that has a simple keyboard, without special keys? I know that my usb keyboard shows up as two keyboards under lsusb. I'm not sure where laptop keyboards show up. But, I'm thinking that since these keyboards show up as two at the kernel level, maybe thats confusing Xorg somehow. Is there anyone here using a simple keyboard that also has this issue? thus proving my theory wrong? ** Changed in: xorg-server Bugwatch: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #17500 = freedesktop.org Bugzilla #17925 Status: Fix Released = Unknown -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
** Changed in: xorg-server Status: Unknown = Confirmed -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
** Also affects: xorg-server via https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17500 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
** Changed in: xorg-server Status: Unknown = Fix Released -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
I've developed more insite into this problem that may be helpful. kbdrate works but only after X is started. The keyboard delay is much to short for me yielding frequent repeated characters. I set the keyboard rate in the Conficuration Editor to an extremely long delay which doesn't seem effective. When reseting delay and rate to 1200 and 15 in the Configuration Editor the result as indicated by kbdrate is 250ms 10.9cps which is the same as at boot. Next I edited /etc/init.d/rc.local as follows: #!/bin/sh -e kbdrate -r 15 -d 1200 exit 0 After boot kbdrate shows: Typematic Rate set to 10.9 cps (delay = 250 ms) While running the rate is set properly with: sudo kbdrate -r 15 -d 1200 Typematic Rate set to 15.0 cps (delay = 1000 ms) The only thing that seems to work is settting kbdrate from the desktop. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
This seems to be a problem in Jaunty too. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Shouldn't this bug be marked as critical? For those who types hours a day, the repeat rate/speed is directly related to productivity, isn't it? I've just upgraded to Intrepid for two days and I am seriously considering moving back to Hardy just because of this keyboard repeat rate issue. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
hey guys, I believe the importance attribute is for developers who are using launchpad, not for the users. I don't think this is going to get a higher priority because this isn't an ubuntu specific bug, and possibly, Mark Shuttleworth hasn't hired any developers to focus on the xserver. I think the best way to raise the priority of this bug would be to file it upstream at freedesktop.org. Personally, I don't want to do that, since I don't really know much about xorg, debugging and gathering information. Frankly, I know very little in the manner of applying or testing out patches. At the end of February, I'll probably give jaunty a whirl, see if there is any improvements. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
Thank you for the work around, Jorge. My brother showed me how to edit the file to add your fix. My keyboard has been working flawlessly ever since. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
This bug was (for me) fixed upstream at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17500 I applied the patch from http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-input- evdev/patch/?id=ece72ce9e97adae23b1932dc1334f63669196d56 to the intrepid version of xserver-xorg-input-evdev. After restarting X, keyboard delay and repeat could once again be set using the gnome Keyboard Preferences. I would also like to comment that neither the xset nor the kbdrate workarounds had any effect on the repeat rate on my system (a USB keyboard). I think (as others have said) that this bug should have a reasonably high priority: the inability to adjust the keyboard is a serious issue, and the workarounds only work in some cases. (As a side issue: applying this patch to xserver-xorg-input-evdev exposed me to the other bug: Left, Down and End keys not repeating. This I could work around using xset as suggested by Ricardo above.) -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
I would also like to mention that even though the workaround works for me, when I hot dock my Dell D620, the keyboard rate gets reset to the previous default (slow repeat for me). Rebooting fixes it, but who wants to reboot to fix a keyboard repeat? Hot docking resets the repeat rate even though I do not have a keyboard plugged into my dock (only a USB mouse). With regard to importance, which I see is still undecided, I'd like to say that this bug is very visible to users who have it. And it's aggravating because it SHOULD just work--doubly so since it worked in Hardy. It's like a stone in your shoe--yeah, it's not going to really do any damage, but you still stop walking and remove it right away because it is annoying. So I recommend an importance that will get this bug fixed relatively quickly. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
I would like to add: In order to get the Left, Down and End keys repetition work, you can do: $ xset r 113 $ xset r 115 $ xset r 116 See bug 278078 and https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17500 -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
@Manni: about the keyboard layout when AutoAddDevices is OFF: Try the following: 1. Click on System-Preferences-Keyboard. 2. Select Layouts tab. 3. Change the Keyboard model to Generic 105-key (Intl) PC. 4. Check that the default selected layout is OK for your country and language. Tell us is this work. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
1-3: done. Although I'm not able to set a default layout. The radio button in the Default column doesn't react when I click it. 4: No. The layout still isn't correct for the login screen. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
@Manni How about setting your system to autologin before you set AutoAddDevices to OFF (System Administration Login Window Security ) That way, you will be logged in automatically, and you won't have to worry about special keys? So, you would turn on autologin and turn off AutoAddDevices, then restart X, get logged in automatically, open System Preferences Keyboard, set the repeat rate to how you like it, close that window, remove the lines you added about AutoAddDevices, reset your login to be not automatic, and then again restart x. The repeat rate should stay the way you set it, and all your keys should be working. Does that work? -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
@daniel Removing the AutoAddDevices line after setting my desired keyboard repeat rate doesn't solve it for me. This will only give me a frustratingly slow keyboard. It seems that I have to keep AutoAddDevices and get myself a new password. PS: I am able to login manually; I just have to press the wrong keys ;-) -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
For me (using Fluxbox), the solution is to add the following to the keyboard's InputDevice section in xorg.conf: Option AutoRepeat 250 30 Turning off AutoAddDevices is not necessary with this change. To summarize some points: * With or without AutoAddDevices, something is resetting the keyboard delay and rate during X startup. This is not desirable. It is a new development. * I can override the values by manually adding the AutoRepeat setting to xorg.conf. * When AutoAddDevices is enabled, using xset r rate... is ineffective. * When AutoAddDevices is disabled, using xset r rate... does work. I am not using Gnome or KDE - I use Fluxbox. I suspect that Gnome will reset the keyboard, so turning of AutoAddDevices is a sufficient solution for Gnome users. It is not a complete solution for users of Fluxbox. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
@Ricardo Pérez López I'm not going to file upstream till your bug is taken care of. I think your bug is more clearly an xorg bug, where as this bug might be an xorg bug, or, it might be a gnome bug. I don't really know. The gnome people speculated that it was an xorg bug, but given that a workaround is simple a command on the cli, I'm starting to think maybe its a gnome bug, and that the gnome keyboard util just doesn't know how to work with the latest xorg? Again, I really don't know. Since there are fairly simple workarounds and no data loss, this bug is pretty low priority (according to the bug triaging rules), and any fixes may not make it into intrepid, but will go into jaunty. Thus, I'm content to wait till after your bug is fixed, and I'm also content to wait till the beta, or at least one of the later alphas, of jaunty is released before I try to do anything else in terms of reporting on this bug. @All If you think any of the work around directions are unclear, or there are other work arounds, I'm willing to take care of that. I'm willing to edit the original post to have more info/accuracy. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
@daniel: the AutoAddDevices-off workaround cures the keyboard speed problem. But it raises another issue for international users: the keyboard layout isn't correct at the login screen which makes it hard to login if you have a decent password. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
I suggest to open a bugreport in upstream's X.Org freedesktop bug tracker, as I did for the (related) bug #278078. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
** Summary changed: - [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on + [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust
I cannot offer any workarounds, but I would like to say that my problem is not that my keyboard is now too fast, but that it's way too slow for my taste. Thus the problem is that people are unable to set repeat rate and delay in either direction. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
I'm the author of the bug #278078 post. Reading this current bug description comments, I can see that both bugreports seems to be closely related. Unfortunately, I haven't got luck with the upstream developers since I opened the bugreport in freedesktop on 2008-10-06: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17925 The xset r rate 500 25 workaround serves as a method to ease the reproduction of the left, down end keys issue. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
Okay, so I've discovered that on my laptop the in-built keyboard and the USB keyboard are behaving differently. Initially they both had the small delay problem. The xset command affects them both in the same way as the keyboard options dialog (i.e. only slightly and with the delay too small). However, the kbdrate command successfully increases the delay on the laptop keyboard but does not affect my USB keyboard. Furthermore, if I do: kbdrate -r 2 -d 500 then the laptop keyboard behaves as expected and has a very slow repeat rate. But if I do kbdrate -r 2 -d 1000 and hold down a key I get a fast repeat for a second or so and then it becomes as slow as it should be. Again, kbdrate does not affect my USB keyboard. I hope these observations help someone find the root of the problem. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
I am also affected by this bug. I have installed Ubuntu 8.10 through the alternate CD, and afterwards installed Xubuntu-desktop. The keyboard repeat delay was too short, and I could not change it with the Xfce GUI, the Gnome GUI or with the xset command. Interestingly, typing xset q does reflect the changes made with either the GUI or with the xset r rate command, but the actual keyboard behavior is *not* affected. I have yesterday installed Kubuntu 8.10 (through the final release alternate CD) in a friend's computer, and updated it shortly after install. Same problem there. However, I the command kbdrate *does* work in my computer. After I type sudo kbdrate -r 25 -d 500 in an rxvt, the keyboard starts to behave (have not tested yet if the fix lasts after a reboot) -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
I thought I would give a xset a try but I don't understand the syntax. I think it is clear enough in the man page. The xset manpage has two paragraphs for the r option. The second paragraph says If the server supports the XFree86-Misc extension, or the XKB extension, then a parameter of ’rate’ is accepted and should be followed by zero, one or two numeric values. The first specifies the delay before autorepeat starts and the second specifies the repeat rate. In the case that the server supports the XKB extension, the delay is the number of milliseconds before autorepeat starts, and the rate is the number of repeats per second. If the rate or delay is not given, it will be set to the default value. So if you want a reasonable delay of 500ms a a repeat rate of 25 characters per second, you would type xset r rate 500 25 Typing xset q (which shows the parameters in effect) then reflects the change. I does *not*, however, make an actual difference in keyboard behavior (which is probably due to this very bug). My workaround for this problem is adding the line kbdrate -r 25 -d 500 to the file /etc/rc.local This fixed the problem for me, with no visible side effects so far. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
I thought I would give a xset a try but I don't understand the syntax. When I type xset this is how it tells me to use the parameter: r rate [delay [rate]] So what are you actually supposed to type to set a delay and a rate? -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
Thank you @Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto! That is the best work-around so-far. It was getting to be almost impossible to work effectively because of this bug, and now I can. My keyboard acts exactly as I expect it to now, without repeating characters/spaces, and I can use my arrow keys (another bug discussed earlier). -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
(In reply to the immediately previous comment, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/264196/comments/27) You are welcome. I welcome everyone else to test this workaround, and, if you all like it better than the one involving editing xorg.conf, someone could add it to the topmost (first) post of this bug report, to help people with the same problem who browse this page (assuming it is possible to edit an already-submitted post). And the importance of this bug should be changed from undecided to at least medium or the like (I don't know what are the selectable values), as it makes the computer use quite annoying, and I imagine would be a show-stopper for disabled people with poor hand dexterity. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
** Description changed: go to System Preferences Keyboard General The controls under Repeat Keys are failing to properly adjust the timing of how fast keys are repeated when held down. I filed under gnome, but a person there thinks its an xorg bug in ubuntu: http://bugzilla.gnome.org show_bug.cgi?id=550242 It has become quite clear that this is a problem with the xorg-evdev driver, and intrepids new hotplug architecture. Here is a workaround for this: Temporarily add the following to your xorg.conf: Section ServerFlags Option AutoAddDevices off EndSection Restart X, and you will be able to change the settings. Once changed, you can remove those lines from your xorg.conf (which is recommended since setting AutoAddDevices to off can interfere with your keyboard) + + Another workaround is to set the repeat rate manually, see this comment + for directions: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg- + input-evdev/+bug/264196/comments/26 + + This bug may also be related to bug 278078 ** Description changed: go to System Preferences Keyboard General The controls under Repeat Keys are failing to properly adjust the timing of how fast keys are repeated when held down. I filed under gnome, but a person there thinks its an xorg bug in ubuntu: http://bugzilla.gnome.org show_bug.cgi?id=550242 It has become quite clear that this is a problem with the xorg-evdev driver, and intrepids new hotplug architecture. + Here is a workaround for this: Temporarily add the following to your xorg.conf: Section ServerFlags Option AutoAddDevices off EndSection Restart X, and you will be able to change the settings. Once changed, you can remove those lines from your xorg.conf (which is recommended since setting AutoAddDevices to off can interfere with your keyboard) - Another workaround is to set the repeat rate manually, see this comment - for directions: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg- - input-evdev/+bug/264196/comments/26 + + Another workaround is to set the repeat rate manually, see this comment for directions: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/264196/comments/26 + This bug may also be related to bug 278078 ** Description changed: go to System Preferences Keyboard General The controls under Repeat Keys are failing to properly adjust the timing of how fast keys are repeated when held down. I filed under gnome, but a person there thinks its an xorg bug in ubuntu: http://bugzilla.gnome.org show_bug.cgi?id=550242 It has become quite clear that this is a problem with the xorg-evdev driver, and intrepids new hotplug architecture. Here is a workaround for this: Temporarily add the following to your xorg.conf: Section ServerFlags Option AutoAddDevices off EndSection Restart X, and you will be able to change the settings. Once changed, you can remove those lines from your xorg.conf (which is recommended since setting AutoAddDevices to off can interfere with your keyboard) - Another workaround is to set the repeat rate manually, see this comment for directions: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/264196/comments/26 + Another (and possibly better) workaround is to set the repeat rate manually, see this comment for directions: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/264196/comments/26 This bug may also be related to bug 278078 -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
Great find! Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto. I am setting this too. First impression: Awesome. Will post anything abnormal IF found. Thanks again, Sarath. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
Quote: Once changed, you can remove those lines from your xorg.conf (which is recommended since setting AutoAddDevices to off can interfere with your keyboard) If i remove the lines and restart X, again the keys ignore the repeat settings. I found another way of dealing with this. In the same settings Accessibility tab, enable slow keys and set the delay to very less, It will simulate the expected experience -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
Well, it seems silly (that we have to resort to this)- but Sarath's solution works very well. Just be sure to set the delay all the way to short. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
One small annoyance with using the Accessibility work-around, which at this point is less of a problem for me than the insanely repeating keys I'm otherwise experiencing... For some reason, enabling slow keys is disabling the repeat completely on my down and left arrow keys. It is a trade-off I'm willing to live with for now, but I hope this bug gets fixed soon. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
God! wolfwitch is right. It does take off your clothes on down and left keys. I looked up, it is another bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/278078 -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
I've actually decided, after doing some coding this morning, that it is a trade-off I'm NOT willing to live with. It's unfortunate that with all the advances Linux has made over the last couple of years, we now have to deal with a stupid flaky keyboard driver. Will my mouse stop working next? -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
Just confirming that I the Slow Keys workaround does the same thing for me too. With it enabled on the lowest setting typing is perfect but there is no repeat on left and down cursor keys. I agree, wolfwitch, that it is ridiculous that these bugs exist. I hope that when they are fixed the developers don't consider that alone as some kind of triumph. They should instead examine how it was possible for the bugs to appear and get through to a final release and how that can be avoided in the future. Not to be too harsh, though. Intrepid was an excellent release for me in general but for Ubuntu to compete in the mainstream as it wishes to do it cannot afford for too many glitches of sort to appear and remain unsolved for more than a few weeks. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
I've got this problem too. Tried using the disable AutoAddDevices temporarily workaround and this fixed the problem but only until I restarted. I've also noticed, that the delay slider in Keyboard Preferences does have some effect, but it is very slight. Try comparing the lowest setting with the highest. The highest will have a long delay but it's still way too short. I keep typing liiie thisss when I let my guard down. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
I have an odd twist on this. For me, it seems like there are two settings. If I set the delay to minimum, and the speed to max, I get the following behavior: Immediately repeat is very fast, until the default (unconfigurable) delay time expires, at which point the repeat rate slows down again. Not sure where the second, unconfigurable delay time and repeat speed settings are coming from. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
I noticed the same problem as Nolan. Further, I was able to modify my settings using the System Preferences Keyboard GUI until today. I tried changing the repeat rate with kbdrate and then noticed that the settings in the GUI didn't have any effect any more. I've been tracking down keyboard repeat bugs since Friday. I wonder if this bug might be somehow related? http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17925 -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
I find that before using the workaround, setting the keyboard delay slider all the way to the right *does* increase the delay time, but not by as much as it should. -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 264196] Re: [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on
Same here. This is really annoying. In my case that workaround does the trick, but as someone reported lots of my keys won't work. But here, if I remove those lines the issue will happen again no matter what I trie :( -- [intrepid] keyboard Repeat Keys is failing to adjust, when AutoAddDevices is on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/264196 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
