Re: [Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-12-22 Thread Alexander Sack
Alexey Popov wrote:
 Thank you for this fix. I've installed -proposed package and now I can
 see nm-applet icon in tray even if all interfaces are configured in
 /etc/network/interfaces.

 Also I'd like to connect to VPN using tray icon, but currently it does
 not work:  when I check my VPN connection, nothing just happens. Again,
 if I clear wlan0 from /etc/network/interfaces, VPN works fine using nm-
 applet.

   
VPN through NM over interfaces configured devices is not supported atm.
Unlikely that this is ever going to happen, but if you still think it
should happen at some point please file a wishlist bug.

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-12-15 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package network-manager-applet -
0.7~~svn20081020t000444-0ubuntu1.8.10.1

---
network-manager-applet (0.7~~svn20081020t000444-0ubuntu1.8.10.1) 
intrepid-proposed; urgency=low

  * fix LP: #289466 - Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are
managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces; we always call
applet_schedule_update_icon in client_init; also we also show the try when
there are error conditions (no NM running, no managed device)
- add debian/patches/lp289464_always_show_tray_icon.patch
- update debian/patches/series
  * fix LP: #286421 - nm-connection-editor menu item untranslatable;
add i18n support to nm-connection-editor.desktop; patch by Timo Jyrinki
timo.jyri...@iki.fi
- add debian/patches/lp286421_fix_i18n_bug_286421.patch
- update debian/patches/series
  * fix LP: #268803 - Ubuntu Intrepid: Both Knetworkmanager and Network
Manager load on startup; fix xdg autostart .desktop file to
OnlyShowIn=GNOME;XFCE;
- add debian/patches/lp268803_xdg_autostart_gnome_xfce_only.patch
- update debian/patches/series
  * fix LP: #293749 - prefix vs. netmask translation inconsistencies in
connection-editor causes confusion; we cherry pick rev1009 from upstream
svn and backport that.
- add debian/patches/lp293749_better_prefix_netmask_ui.patch
- update debian/patches/series

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** Changed in: network-manager-applet (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

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Re: [Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-12-09 Thread Martin Pitt
Niloc Deeps [2008-12-09  4:05 -]:
 The problem now is that I get 403 forbidden when I try to update.

This sounds like a problem with your local mirror. Maybe try again
later, or try using another one?

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-12-09 Thread Alexey Popov
Thank you for this fix. I've installed -proposed package and now I can
see nm-applet icon in tray even if all interfaces are configured in
/etc/network/interfaces.

Also I'd like to connect to VPN using tray icon, but currently it does
not work:  when I check my VPN connection, nothing just happens. Again,
if I clear wlan0 from /etc/network/interfaces, VPN works fine using nm-
applet.

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-12-08 Thread Niloc Deeps
I've downloaded the proposed. I managed to gt the applet before this. The 
problem now is that I get 403 forbidden when I try to update. I realise that 
this is probably no related to ths bug BUT the reason I'm posting it here is 
that, as I don't have Network Manager, I don't know how to check my settings. 
Any ideas?
Thanks

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-12-06 Thread Steven Harper
I am testing the two -proposed packages

apt-cache policy network-manager
network-manager:
  Installed: 0.7~~svn20081018t105859-0ubuntu1
  Candidate: 0.7~~svn20081018t105859-0ubuntu1
  Version table:
 *** 0.7~~svn20081018t105859-0ubuntu1 0
500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

apt-cache policy network-manager-gnome
network-manager-gnome:
  Installed: 0.7~~svn20081020t000444-0ubuntu1
  Candidate: 0.7~~svn20081020t000444-0ubuntu1
  Version table:
 *** 0.7~~svn20081020t000444-0ubuntu1 0
500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

I still see the same problem : no tray icon - I can actually right click on the 
gap in the tray and if I do I get 
a context menu.

If I look at the wired tab I get

ifupdown (eth1) never

My connection works perfect I just don't have tray icon.

here is my interfaces file

more /etc/network/interfaces
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

auto eth0

auto eth1
iface eth1 inet dhcp

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-12-05 Thread Ilya B
See bug 305398 for some feedback.

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-12-04 Thread Ilya B
0.7~~svn20081020t000444-0ubuntu1.8.10.1 seems to fix it for me, thank
you.

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-12-04 Thread Martin Pitt
** Tags added: verification-done

** Tags removed: verification-needed

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-12-03 Thread Alexander Sack
if you see this, please help testing the -proposed package (see:
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-
applet/+bug/289466/comments/42) ... the more positive feedback we get
the sooner we can roll this update to the masses. Thanks!

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-12-02 Thread Derek
Thanks for the patch.
As it turns out it was just yesterday that I had encountered this behaviour 
when trying to set up a VPN.

Was quite confusing although I eventually noticed the tiny shift in
notification area when starting/stopping nm-applet, figured out what was
going on and was able to switch to managing with NM by reinstalling
gnome-network-admin and setting the connection to roaming.

I suppose if I'd waited a day it would have all worked out. :)

At least you've cut down on future confused users.

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-12-01 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package network-manager-applet -
0.7~~svn20081020t000444-0ubuntu2

---
network-manager-applet (0.7~~svn20081020t000444-0ubuntu2) jaunty; urgency=low

  * fix LP: #289466 - Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are
managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces; we always call
applet_schedule_update_icon in client_init; also we also show the try when
there are error conditions (no NM running, no managed device)
- add debian/patches/lp289464_always_show_tray_icon.patch
- update debian/patches/series
  * fix LP: #286421 - nm-connection-editor menu item untranslatable;
add i18n support to nm-connection-editor.desktop; patch by Timo Jyrinki
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- add debian/patches/lp286421_fix_i18n_bug_286421.patch
- update debian/patches/series
  * fix LP: #268803 - Ubuntu Intrepid: Both Knetworkmanager and Network
Manager load on startup; fix xdg autostart .desktop file to
OnlyShowIn=GNOME;XFCE;
- add debian/patches/lp268803_xdg_autostart_gnome_xfce_only.patch
- update debian/patches/series
  * fix LP: #293749 - prefix vs. netmask translation inconsistencies in
connection-editor causes confusion; we cherry pick rev1009 from upstream
svn and backport that.
- add debian/patches/lp293749_better_prefix_netmask_ui.patch
- update debian/patches/series

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** Changed in: network-manager-applet (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-12-01 Thread Alexander Sack
network-manager-applet_0.7~~svn20081020t000444-0ubuntu1.8.10.1_source.changes
network-manager-applet_0.7~~svn20081020t000444-0ubuntu2_source.changes


** Changed in: network-manager-applet (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Status: Triaged = In Progress

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-12-01 Thread Steve Langasek
Accepted into intrepid-proposed, please test and give feedback here.
Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for
documentation how to enable and use -proposed. Thank you in advance!

** Changed in: network-manager-applet (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Status: In Progress = Fix Committed
   Target: intrepid-updates = None

** Tags added: verification-needed

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-11-29 Thread Neil Hollow
Niloc's method works for me too.  I still think this is a bug its very
difficult to manage wifi w/o it.  Now I wonder what I have to add to get
my battery power applet to work

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-11-29 Thread Jon Mansey
just to add a me too to this, I found I was simply missing the
notification area, adding one back brought back my nm-applet and
bluetooth-applets. I guess I had unlocked it due to it moving around
when I switch between my laptop screen and 24 DVI panel, the kids may
have removed it accidentally.  Ill try to keep it locked from now on.

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-11-28 Thread Alexander Sack
rev 480

** Changed in: network-manager-applet (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Fix Committed

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-11-24 Thread Alexander Sack
when we have a fix we should consider a SRU to fix this in intrepid too.
Marking accordingly.

** Changed in: network-manager-applet (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Importance: Undecided = High
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Alexander Sack (asac)
   Status: New = Triaged
   Target: None = intrepid-updates

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-11-24 Thread Alexander Sack
only applet bug.

** Changed in: network-manager (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Status: New = Invalid

** Changed in: network-manager (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Invalid

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-11-24 Thread Niloc Deeps
I tried everything I could, including stuff I probably shouldn't have touched, 
thinking I would re-install Hardy. Yesterday I added the network monitor and a 
notification area to the top panel. I got a new menu separator, a thing that 
tells me that I'm using an English keyboard and...the 
network manager applet!! I clicked on wireless and hey presto, I'm finally 
online.
Maybe this may help somebody else - I hope so.
Maybe it would be a good idea to be able to enable wireless without using 
network manager?

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-11-22 Thread Will Moggridge
I had this problem as well. Though from my experience is that it is on the 
panel.
It's more a case of the icon which should be showing, isn't loading up. So you 
are left with an invisible area of a couple of pixels wide which I could click. 
(Only noticeable by a slightly bigger gap than between other icons)

When I clicked the invisible bit and started wireless the icon then
appeared as wireless and after stopping it, it showed the usual image.

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-11-22 Thread Adam Niedling
Will is right. It's right there but it's invisible. For me it's between
skype and the bluetooth applet. However it can't be used for anything.
Every option is grayed out except for VPN.

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Re: [Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-11-21 Thread Niloc Deeps
/etc/init.d doesn't bring back my applet at all.


Ari wrote:
 I also run into this annoying bug. In my case, I can not comment out my
 manual entries in /etc/network/interfaces because I need those for
 proper NAT support in VirtualBox (vbox0 interface bridging).

 The only way to bring the applet back to life I've found is:

 /etc/init.d/Network-Manager restart

 Hopefully a proper fix for this can be found and pushed through update-
 manager...



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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-11-19 Thread Jordi Soucheiron Estruch
I can confirm this still happens on an Intrepid updated from hardy

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-11-17 Thread terzag
Have the problem too. eth0 (which I currently use) is set in 
/etc/network/interfaces, ath0 (Atheros Wifi card) is not. When starting Gnome, 
the nm-applet doesn't show up (although the process is running). Restarting 
/etc/init.d/NetworkManager makes it appear. In the menu, I can choose a Wifi 
network (with ath0) and it says device is unmanaged for wired network (eth0).
Will try to comment the interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces but I'm not sure 
I should as it was setup by the Server installation (using Intrepid Server and 
installed ubuntu-desktop to have a GUI).

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-11-15 Thread Ari
I also run into this annoying bug. In my case, I can not comment out my
manual entries in /etc/network/interfaces because I need those for
proper NAT support in VirtualBox (vbox0 interface bridging).

The only way to bring the applet back to life I've found is:

/etc/init.d/Network-Manager restart

Hopefully a proper fix for this can be found and pushed through update-
manager...

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-11-11 Thread akromic
Bug #291737 is not a duplicate of this bug because it doesn't have any
connection with /etc/interfaces.

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-11-11 Thread RickB
I can confirm this bug is still live today.

Workaround:

I commented out all the entries in /etc/network/interfaces, restarted
and now everything works just about as I'd expect.

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-11-10 Thread Dave Edwards
Adding to the hue and cry.

Encountered this after a reboot of 8.10.

$ uname -a
Linux bigstory 2.6.27-7-generic #1 SMP Tue Nov 4 19:33:20 UTC 2008 i686 
GNU/Linux

$ apt-cache policy network-manager-gnome
network-manager-gnome:
  Installed: 0.7~~svn20081020t000444-0ubuntu1
  Candidate: 0.7~~svn20081020t000444-0ubuntu1
  Version table:
 *** 0.7~~svn20081020t000444-0ubuntu1 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

$ cat /etc/network/interfaces 
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
auto dsl-provider
iface dsl-provider inet ppp
pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up # line maintained by pppoeconf
provider dsl-provider

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet manual

$ ifconfig  | grep ^[[:alnum:]]
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:11:2f:75:b9:db  
loLink encap:Local Loopback  
ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol

$ nm-applet

** (nm-applet:11935): WARNING **: WARN  applet_dbus_manager_start_service(): 
Could not acquire the NetworkManagerUserSettings service.
  Message: 'Connection :1.98 is not allowed to own the service 
org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerUserSettings due to security policies in the 
configuration file'


(nm-applet:11935): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion 
`G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

$ sudo nm-applet 
[sudo] password for dle: 

** (nm-applet:11936): WARNING **: No connections defined

** (nm-applet:11936): WARNING **: WARN  constructor(): Invalid
connection: 'NMSettingConnection' / 'type' invalid: 3

...I think the result of the sudo command might relate to my having
configured my dsl connection (a pppoe one) with pppoeconf ---  which I
did because I didn't succeed with nm's gui tool.

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-11-10 Thread Thermaltaker
** Changed in: network-manager (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-11-09 Thread Thermaltaker
Confirming this. I yesterday had to lunch ppoeconf in order to connect to my 
company and this made an entry wlan0 in /etc/network/interfaces so 
networkmanger tried to find an wired wlan0!! And it doesnt show the applet 
until pluging a cable in. After that it tried to connect via wlan0, with no 
success ;-)
Commenting wlan0 out in /etc/network/interfaces helped me to get it work.

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-11-05 Thread Ilya B
See bug 290484: nm-applet has no icon if no wireless network present

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-11-01 Thread keneida
did not find anything yet. However, after deleting all the gui
configuration files on my xubuntu i got the icon show. Manually i set
all the panels from default to my setup - only one panel verticaly on
left, normal size and the icon after restart of the computer is gone
again.

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-11-01 Thread Alexander Sack
keneida, if cleaning /e/n/interfaces didn't help, you don't see this
issue, but a more general xfce bug.

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-10-31 Thread Mark Ellis
I am experiencing this behaviour, with the following setup

eth0 wired, static addressing via ifupdown
wlan0 wifi, dynamic via nm

NetworkManager, nm-system-settings and nm-applet are all running

When a known wireless net is in range, nm connects and displays as
expected. With a new wireless net, the applet is present but not
visible. It is possible to get the network menu up by clicking on the
sliver that exists for a systray item with no icon, but it's not easy,
and is a little silly.

Additionally, the same problem is encountered with a 3G modem. A 'not
connected' icon in these states would seem more sensible.

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Re: [Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-10-31 Thread Alexander Sack
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 03:28:53PM -, Mark Ellis wrote:
 I am experiencing this behaviour, with the following setup
 
 eth0 wired, static addressing via ifupdown
 wlan0 wifi, dynamic via nm
 
 NetworkManager, nm-system-settings and nm-applet are all running
 
 When a known wireless net is in range, nm connects and displays as
 expected. With a new wireless net, the applet is present but not
 visible. It is possible to get the network menu up by clicking on the
 sliver that exists for a systray item with no icon, but it's not easy,
 and is a little silly.
 
 Additionally, the same problem is encountered with a 3G modem. A 'not
 connected' icon in these states would seem more sensible.
 

The problem you are describing is a problem on its own. Could you open
a separate bug for that particular issue? Remember to post the new bug
id here.

Thanks,

 - Alexander

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-10-31 Thread keneida
Same for me. the icon is missing. Same with power-manager icon.
When you restart hal the power manager icon shows just for a second or two.

If you create new account on your computer (with empty home directory) and log 
into you will see the icon.
So it must be something broken with the configuration files.
I will try to find out which file is it - i guess one from gnome configuration. 
But unfortunately don't have lots of time.

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-10-29 Thread DragonK
Perhaps the applet should still be displayed, the user might want to
connect to wireless (as Steven sugested) or create a new VPN
connection... ?

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Re: [Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-10-29 Thread Alexander Sack
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 07:25:11AM -, DragonK wrote:
 Perhaps the applet should still be displayed, the user might want to
 connect to wireless (as Steven sugested) or create a new VPN
 connection... ?
 

VPN connection might be a valid reason here. But remember that if NM
cannot manage any physical device, managing a VPN on top of nothing
doesnt make sense either.

Anyway, I also see that it might be helpful to still display the
applet, but unless we have a good icon to indicate that the devices
are maybe-online and that all is unmanaged, i think that would cause
also confusion.

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Re: [Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-10-29 Thread Alexander Sack
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 09:38:47PM -, Steven Harper wrote:
 I was aware that the connection is forced I read the bug for  that one.
 
 Yes I agree its JUST a display bug in nm-applet, but I still think its a
 important one.
 
 If I wanted to swap to a Wireless network I can't unless I restart the
 applet,
 
 now thats OK for me, but beginner users will be put off
 

network manager should show up if you dont configure your wireless
device in /etc/network/interfaces and your wireless device is plugged
in. With your wireless configured in /etc/network/interfaces you
opted-out for managing your wireless in NetworkManager ... so even if
we would show the applet it would show your device as unamanged and
wouldnt allow you to select a AP.

 - Alexander

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-10-29 Thread Alexander Sack
reassigning to applet and setting to triaged, because we appear to
understand when this happens. The best approach to tackle this is still
not found though.

** Changed in: network-manager-applet (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: network-manager = network-manager-applet
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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-10-29 Thread Vladimir DurĂ¡n
Can be in a future release of this applet something like this: Instead
of just not appear (which will make upgrading users wonder where they
connections went) why not to show the applet with an menu item saying:
Import unmanaged connections, which helps the users to migrate from
/etc/interfaces to whatever NM uses?. But I guess that's too late for
this release.

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-10-29 Thread DragonK
@Alexander:

You are right about managing VPNs on top of nothing. But what if there
is a valid connection (managed manually), then VPNs would make sense.
However, NM must act carefully in this case and not interfere with (read
clobber) the already configured stuff (i'm thinking /etc/resolv.conf
mosty); I don't know exactly how NM handles these issues, as I recently
started using it myself, so I might talk nonsense.

As for the icon, I'm thinking that since the NM process and applet are up and 
running, something should be displayed. At least an icon and some information 
saying i'm not managing your network, however, you have these interfaces ethX, 
ethY, up and running, with these settings, etc... read here for more info on 
this issue.  
I think this might help novice users, since I for instance don't know how 
exactly I got my manually managed /etc/network/interfaces file, perhaps I 
randomly clicked too much around the gnome tools...

Vladimir's idea could work too, but I guess it would be too complicated
to take over the manual settings of various distros able to run NM, no
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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-10-29 Thread Devgru
Hi. I've got the same problem. Cleaning of /etc/network/interfaces
solved it.

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Re: [Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-10-28 Thread Alexander Sack
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:43:53PM -, DragonK wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/network/interfaces 
 auto lo
 iface lo inet loopback
 auto eth1
 iface eth1 inet dhcp
 dns-nameservers 192.168.1.1
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps axu | grep Networ | grep -v grep
 root  5765  0.0  0.0   6408  2240 ?Ss   23:27   0:00 
 /usr/sbin/NetworkManager
 root  5775  0.0  0.1   7696  3516 ?S23:27   0:00 
 /usr/sbin/nm-system-settings --config 
 /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf
 
 The network manager process is running, but no applet.
 

no applet == you dont see the applet?
or
no applet == nm-applet process isnt running?

Thanks,

 - Alexander

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-10-28 Thread DragonK
I've recently rebooted my ubuntu, the applet isn't visible.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps axu | grep nm- | grep -v grep
root  5754  0.0  0.1   7696  3552 ?S10:10   0:00 
/usr/sbin/nm-system-settings --config 
/etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf
user  6204  0.0  0.3  23044 11480 ?S10:11   0:00 nm-applet 
--sm-disable

The nm-applet process is there it seems (the Network Manager process is
also there).  Trying to start it manually yields:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ nm-applet

** (nm-applet:9454): WARNING **: WARN
applet_dbus_manager_start_service(): Could not acquire the
NetworkManagerUserSettings service as it is already taken.  Return: 3


(nm-applet:9454): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion 
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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-10-28 Thread DragonK
By the way, after I restart the NetworkManager service, the applet pops
up, but I can't do much with it as it shows a warning sign and says
networking disabled in the tooltip.

I'm guessing it might have something to do with this bug, but I might be wrong:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/network-manager/+bug/279262

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Re: [Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-10-28 Thread Alexander Sack
OK, this is somewhat a feature. Most likely all devices are in
/etc/network/interfaces, which basically means that NM doesnt have a
single device to manage and thus doesnt display the applet.

I admit that this is a confusing thing, but having an applet that
doesnt allow you to do anything wouldnt be less confusing.

Remove your configurations from /etc/network/interfaces if you want to
use NetworkManager ... otherwise just manage your network using
ifup/ifdown command line tools (which doesnt require the applet at
all).

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 08:47:17AM -, DragonK wrote:
 I've recently rebooted my ubuntu, the applet isn't visible.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps axu | grep nm- | grep -v grep
 root  5754  0.0  0.1   7696  3552 ?S10:10   0:00 
 /usr/sbin/nm-system-settings --config 
 /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf
 user  6204  0.0  0.3  23044 11480 ?S10:11   0:00 nm-applet 
 --sm-disable
 
 The nm-applet process is there it seems (the Network Manager process is
 also there).  Trying to start it manually yields:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ nm-applet
 
 ** (nm-applet:9454): WARNING **: WARN
 applet_dbus_manager_start_service(): Could not acquire the
 NetworkManagerUserSettings service as it is already taken.  Return: 3
 
 
 (nm-applet:9454): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion 
 `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
 

 - Alexander

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Re: [Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-10-28 Thread Alexander Sack
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 08:58:14AM -, DragonK wrote:
 By the way, after I restart the NetworkManager service, the applet pops
 up, but I can't do much with it as it shows a warning sign and says
 networking disabled in the tooltip.

right clicking allows you to enable it again i guess.

 - Alexander

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-10-28 Thread Steven Harper
I still think that this is a bug

I have an eth0 this is disconnected, and as you see from my log its
disconnected and gets this in the log

Oct 26 12:40:40 uber-ubuntu NetworkManager: info Unmanaged Device
found; state CONNECTED forced

Now I have got an entry for eth1, this should be ignored by NM, however I don't 
think this is a good reason to have NO
NM in the tray.  NM should be there with a greyed out eth0 and an uneditable 
eth1 (because its managed).

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Re: [Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-10-28 Thread Alexander Sack
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 03:50:48PM -, Steven Harper wrote:
 I still think that this is a bug
 
 I have an eth0 this is disconnected, and as you see from my log its
 disconnected and gets this in the log
 
 Oct 26 12:40:40 uber-ubuntu NetworkManager: info Unmanaged Device
 found; state CONNECTED forced
 
 Now I have got an entry for eth1, this should be ignored by NM, however I 
 don't think this is a good reason to have NO
 NM in the tray.  NM should be there with a greyed out eth0 and an uneditable 
 eth1 (because its managed).
 

the applet will not show connected. the CONNECTED from the log is
about forcing the state queried by applications to guess the
online/offline state (e.g. firefox, pidgin etc. offline modes).

So yes, its a display bug in nm-applet; but this is mostly about
confusion as it shouldnt have any impact on your network operations.

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-10-28 Thread Steven Harper
I was aware that the connection is forced I read the bug for  that one.

Yes I agree its JUST a display bug in nm-applet, but I still think its a
important one.

If I wanted to swap to a Wireless network I can't unless I restart the
applet,

now thats OK for me, but beginner users will be put off

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-10-27 Thread DragonK
This happens for me too:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-cache policy network-manager-gnome
network-manager-gnome:
  Installed: 0.7~~svn20081020t000444-0ubuntu1
  Candidate: 0.7~~svn20081020t000444-0ubuntu1
  Version table:
 *** 0.7~~svn20081020t000444-0ubuntu1 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 0.7~~svn20081020t000444-0ubuntu1~nm1 0
500 http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid/main Packages

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/network/interfaces 
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
auto eth1
iface eth1 inet dhcp
dns-nameservers 192.168.1.1

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps axu | grep Networ | grep -v grep
root  5765  0.0  0.0   6408  2240 ?Ss   23:27   0:00 
/usr/sbin/NetworkManager
root  5775  0.0  0.1   7696  3516 ?S23:27   0:00 
/usr/sbin/nm-system-settings --config 
/etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf

The network manager process is running, but no applet.

# /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart  makes the applet appear.

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[Bug 289466] Re: Network Manager 0.7 applet not Appearing if there are managed entries in /etc/network/interfaces

2008-10-26 Thread Alexander Sack
Does the applet reappear if you do:

sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop
sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start
?

If thats the case is NetworkManager process running when applet is not
visible?


** Changed in: network-manager (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = High
   Status: New = Incomplete

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