[Bug 290255] Re: xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut
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On 2006-09-26T12:54:13+00:00 Magicfab-h wrote:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; fr; rv:1.8.0.7)
Gecko/20060921 Ubuntu/dapper-security Firefox/1.5.0.7
Build Identifier:
Initially reported at:
https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-xkb-plugin/+bug/43185
Additional keyboard variants are not shown properly/fully in a
descriptive manner in the keyboard switcher applet in XFCE.
Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Add an alternat keyboard variant in /etc/X11/xorg.conf :
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbLayout" "us,us"
Option "XkbVariant" ",alt-intl"
EndSection
2. Logout, then login again
3. Add keyboard applet to XFCE panel
4. switch among keyboards by clicking on the applet
Actual Results:
XFCE keyboard switcher shows only the keyboard layout text label without the
keyboard layout variant (in this case Alternative International for the 2nd
layout).
Similarly, a hint indicating the variant is changing could be added to
the flag icon display. I think this is what the same applet in Gnome
does.
Expected Results:
XFCE keyboard switcher should show the layout and variant information.
This is a major usability problem for anyone using anything else than a
standard US layout. I understand to even configure an alternate keyboard under
XFCE at this point there is no "friendly" way unless you do it with the gnome
tools first. Regardless, I think the way it's displayed is part of fixing the
overall usability problem for anyone wishing to have keyboard variants. Another
XFCE bug talks about adding layout config options to this applet config dialog:
http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1901
The variant *label description* can be very long, but the label itself is at
most 22 characters, most being aroun 7~ 10. I checked this in this file:
/usr/lib/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.lst
However, even 7~10 characters is too long to show.
Ultimately, this should be as configurable as the date-hour settings
which permit using a variable-based template.
The way variants are used, I think, is mostly as a modification of an
existing keyboard layout. For example, US becomes US - International.
This is in effect the keyboard layout code plus the keyboard variant
description.
I suggest to have the keyboard layout plus variant description as a hint
(mouse-over bubble/dialog), which would make it friendly to its panel
space. This, again, should be configurable by variables.
In the panel applet space, I think Gnome uses an asterisk (*) to
differentiate between a variant and its standard layout. So, if I follow
my configuration example, If I had only one variant for US, repeatedly
changing the layout would show US and US(*) only in the applet panel (or
a flag with a distinctive mark). Hovering over it would show the
keyboard layout plus variant description (US - International).
Any other suggestions welcome.
Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-xkb-
plugin/+bug/290255/comments/0
On 2007-11-04T11:48:42+00:00 Jeromeg wrote:
This still seems to be a problem.
Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-xkb-
plugin/+bug/290255/comments/1
On 2008-03-24T20:09:37+00:00 Skipper13 wrote:
The same bug on Arch Linux
http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8595
After upgrade xfce4-xkb-plugin doesn't show flag for "RU" and "UK" but
PNG-files have been. Plugin showes US flag only. For other languages showes
"(null)" string.
Additional info:
* xfce4-xkb-plugin 0.4.3-3
*
/etc/X11/xorg.conf
===
Section "InputDevice"
# generated from default
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us,ru,ua"
Option "XkbOptions" "grp:ctrl_shift_toggle"
EndSection
===
ls /usr/share/xfce4/xkb/flags/{ru,uk}.png -l
===
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 215 Apr 16 2007 /usr/share/xfce4/xkb/flags/ru.png
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1210 Apr 16 2007 /usr/share/xfce4/xkb/flags/uk.png
===
When I change keyboard layout plugin write to log error message
===
(xfce4-xkb-plugin:8319): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_utf8_strdown: assertion `str !=
NULL' failed
(xfce4-xkb-plugin:8319): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_utf8_strdown: assertion
`str != NULL' failed
[Bug 290255] Re: xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut
** Changed in: xkb Status: Unknown = Confirmed -- xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/290255 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 290255] Re: xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/karmic/xfce4-xkb-plugin -- xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/290255 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 290255] Re: xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut
Uploaded to jaunty, you should be able to ask for a backport now. ** Changed in: xfce4-xkb-plugin (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Lionel Le Folgoc (mrpouit) Status: Triaged = Fix Committed -- xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/290255 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 290255] Re: xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut
This bug was fixed in the package xfce4-xkb-plugin - 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 --- xfce4-xkb-plugin (0.5.1-0ubuntu1) jaunty; urgency=low * Sync from Debian Xfce SVN Unreleased - Once 4.4.3 is uploaded to Debian, this package should be synced, there is no Ubuntu delta * Closes: - xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut (LP: #290255) - XFCE keyboard switcher doesn't show variant label (LP: #43185) - xfce4-xkb-plugin crashed with SIGSEGV (LP: #122851). xfce4-xkb-plugin (0.5.1-1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low [ Simon Huggins ] * debian/control: Move fake Homepage field to a real one now dpkg supports it. * Add Vcs-* headers to debian/control [ Yves-Alexis Perez ] * New upstream release. - fix mispell in README file. closes: #445335 - now displays variant.closes: #496183, #434124 * debian/control: - add myself to Uploaders:, remove Rudy Godoy and Martin Loschwitz. - update standards version to 3.8.0. - add build-dep on libxklavier12-dev, librsvg2-dev, libwnck-dev. * debian/copyright: update dates and copyright owners. -- Lionel Le Folgoc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:05:40 +0100 ** Changed in: xfce4-xkb-plugin (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/290255 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 290255] Re: xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut
Great news! :) I can`t wait fo Jaunty repository to start, so that i could download ubuntu variant of the source so I could make package for Hardy. -- xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/290255 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 290255] Re: xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut
I *do* understand the 'megafreeze' policy of all the distros who release twice a year, however, could you please explain me: 1. How is this too many changes, as long as there is no new dependency, but a mere recompiling of an updated source package? 2. Why can't this be pushed as an update, or possibly as a backport as a last resort? Note that this is in universe, so Ubuntu does *not* need to support it. 3. Why can't per case decisions be taken, knowing that there is so very unlikely to experience regressions with such a package, and it is *not* a fundamental package anyway? At times, the packaging policies of the mainstream distros are making me crazy! -- xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/290255 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 290255] Re: xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut
Radu Cristian Fotescu a écrit : I *do* understand the 'megafreeze' policy of all the distros who release twice a year, however, could you please explain me: 1. How is this too many changes, as long as there is no new dependency, but a mere recompiling of an updated source package? Please read http://foo-projects.org/pipermail/goodies-dev/2008-September/001734.html Quoting the developer: Since 90% of the code is new any feedback will be greatly appreciated. This is what I call too many changes. 2. Why can't this be pushed as an update, or possibly as a backport as a last resort? Note that this is in universe, so Ubuntu does *not* need to support it. After a release, only security or bugfix updates (Stable Release Update) are allowed. Nobody said it couldn't be backported: it just needs to be packaged and uploaded for jaunty as soon as the repositories open, and then you'll be able to request a backport (you don't even have to be a developer for that). 3. Why can't per case decisions be taken, knowing that there is so very unlikely to experience regressions with such a package, and it is *not* a fundamental package anyway? Have you tested it on several configurations to say this? Anyway, ask the Xubuntu Team Leader, motu-release and/or motu-sru if you want a per-case decision on this. -- Lionel Le Folgoc - https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit EEBA 555E 0CDE 92BB 3AF4 4AB3 45A0 357B 5179 5910 -- xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/290255 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 290255] Re: xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut
** Attachment added: New look of xfce4-xkb-plugin 0.5.1with layout shortcut http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18964060/new_xkb-plugin.png -- xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/290255 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 290255] Re: xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut
** Bug watch added: Xfce Bugzilla #2363 http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2363 ** Also affects: xkb via http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2363 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/290255 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 290255] Re: xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut
Too late (and too many changes) for intrepid, it'll be for jaunty. ** Changed in: xfce4-xkb-plugin (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: None = xfce4-xkb-plugin Importance: Undecided = Wishlist Status: New = Triaged -- xfce4-xkb-plugin should be updated to include GUI-manageble keyboard layout switcher shortcut https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/290255 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
