[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2010-12-28 Thread Raymond
 MMarking  wrote on 2009-12-02: #36

* Output of cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 (13.1 KiB, text/plain)

  List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices 
 card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog]
  Subdevices: 3/3
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
  Subdevice #2: subdevice #2

I can confirm this behaviour on my ad1988b

since the sound cards has three set of capture ( subdevices, capture
volume, capture switch and input sources )

Gnome volume control cannot correctly choose the correct set which PA
server is using

https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=52175

** Bug watch added: Mandriva Linux #52175
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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2010-05-10 Thread ngc2997
Is this still being investigated? Since I've upgraded to Lucid, I can
confirm weird behaviour when adjusting volume levels either by the new
volume applet in Gnome (indicator) or by media keys. This is very
annoying since it renders volume control rather useless. Concerning the
system running here (Intel HDA), this must have been introduced with
Lucid, as with Karmic everything went as expected (i.e., somewhat
'linear' control).

The current behaviour here is as follows:

When using the media keys on my keyboard with the volume initially set
to 0, this effects the 'Front' channel in the first place. Pressing the
appropriate media key three times sets the Front volume to 100% in three
steps; this is when the volume has reached its maximum value. The same
applies to the volume slider in the Gnome panel (indicator) - it sets
Front to 100% after about 10% of the slider width. After that, and when
Front has reached 100%, further volume increase effects the 'Master
Front' channel rather granular; yet there is no more increase in actual
volume.

Manually setting 'volume = ignore' values in /usr/share/pulseaudio/alsa-
mixer/paths/analog-output.conf.common is not really an option as this
file will most likely be overwritten when receiving updates for
pulseaudio; also, messing around in system files is not what I'd call a
'clean' solution..

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2010-03-14 Thread Oliver Joos
I confirm this issue for gnome-volume-control 2.28.1 (Karmic). As
workaround I use 'gnome-alsamixer' to switch Headphone Jack Sense. BTW:
even an About dialog is missing, use --version instead.

$ sudo lspci -vv
...
00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW 
(ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 0934
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- 
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- 
TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- INTx-
Latency: 0
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 21
Region 0: I/O ports at 3100 [size=256]
Region 1: I/O ports at 3200 [size=64]
Region 2: Memory at c8c01000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512]
Region 3: Memory at c8c02000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=375mA 
PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH
Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0


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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2010-03-14 Thread Oliver Joos
** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2010-03-14 Thread Psy[H[]
unfortunately gnome-alsamixer is far less polished than old gnome-
volume-control. For example: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source
/gnome-alsamixer/+bug/331460

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2010-03-05 Thread Psy[H[]
There is still no complete frontend to alsamixer in current gnome. A
thing where you can see and tweak all channels and switches your
soundcard support. Regression is still exists. Pulseaudio tools are too
generalized.

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2010-03-04 Thread Daniel T Chen
** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Invalid

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-12-01 Thread MMarking
 List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices 
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog]
  Subdevices: 3/3
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
  Subdevice #2: subdevice #2
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: AD198x Digital [AD198x Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: IM [VF0350 Live! Cam Video IM], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog]
  Subdevices: 0/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: AD198x Digital [AD198x Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0



cat /proc/asound/version 
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.21.
Compiled on Nov  7 2009 for kernel 2.6.31-15-generic (SMP).



Karmic 32 bit upgraded from Jaunty.

The pulseaudio volume control and gnome volume control applet don't
allow me to control the volume coming in from external audio sources
connected to the line-in input.  I have to use the old style gnome-alsa-
mixer or command line alsamixer -Dhw:0.  The Karmic pulseaudio/gnome
volume control DO allow me to control the capture level from the line-
in, but just not the actual line-in itself.  The same applies to the
microphone inputs, however in that case you don't want to hear what is
coming in over the microphone.

With a line-in, you DO want to be able to hear what is coming in.  I
think this is a major problem.  Should I open a separate bug for this?

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-11-29 Thread Jean-Peer Lorenz
IMHO,  regardless this is caused by hardware or not,  the behaviour of 
Pulseaudio's volume control is too complicated. It is not clear which tracks 
are controlled and in what order. After upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 sound and 
media keys worked out of the box (good job for this). However, the volume 
control using the gnome-applet resp. media keys was,
let's say weired. Pulseaudio lowered the master volume first, then the PCM 
channel and the headphone channel (which I use as output) last. This resulted 
in a nearly constant volume level over the whole volume range (in the gnome 
panel) - not linear variying or something similar. It tooks me several hours of 
investigations to find the solution proposed above. I set the Master and PCM 
channel to 'ignore', set the desired levels in 'alsamixer' and everything is 
nice. This must be simplified by adding a graphical interface or emphasizing 
the Pulseaudio documentation. Especially beginners go crazy with such issues.

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-10-26 Thread David Allouche
With a ThinkPad X60, to avoid distortion when the Master volume is at
100% the PCM volume must be at most 68% (-3dB), otherwise clipping
occurs. Historically, I always lowered the PCM to this level. The effect
is manifest using the Multimedia Systems Selector output test to produce
a sine wave, that makes clipping obvious.

With the new gnome-volume-control in Karmic, that means that clipping
occurs way before 100% (68%, I guess), which makes the system sound like
shit.

Editing /usr/share/pulseaudio/alsa-mixer/paths/analog-
output.conf.common, section [Element PCM], to change volume = merge to
volume = ignore works around the issue.

Thanks a lot Daniel for the hint. Otherwise I would have had to remain
on Jaunty.

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Re: [Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-10-26 Thread Daniel T Chen
Please allow me to reiterate that this symptom is not a PulseAudio bug
but a hardware one that can be worked around in the sound driver,
linux (with varying degrees of success for given hardware). The fact
that we have to work around it in PulseAudio (either by passing
ignore_dB=1 to module-udev* or by changing sections in the PA
profiles) is a clear indication of hardware failing to Do The Right
Thing.

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-10-26 Thread Psy[H[]
This is not a bug in hardware. This is rather a weird feature: In some 
soundcards PCM chanel gain range is not -X~0, but rather -X~+Y. A kind of 
digital boost.
On my Realtek NVidia CK804 range of PCM chanel is -34.5~12.0. So it must not be 
set on maximum in normal circumstances, but rather is to be set to 0 (74%).
I wonder why pulseaudio should mess with PCM chanel when changing master volume.
...but i do not really care, because I do not use pulseaudio, and another nasty 
bug is relevant to me: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/440465

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-10-02 Thread Yotam Benshalom
Daniel, the patch you linked fixes the problem with the pcm slider but not the 
problem with the Front slider. In order to resolve this one, and make stay 
where i put it, I asses to /usr/share/pulseaudio/alsa-mixer/paths/analog-output 
the lines:
[Front]
volume = ignore

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-10-01 Thread Psy[H[]
In Karmic Beta the only reasonable way to control audio without
pulseaudio - is with text-based alsamixer.

It is a disaster!
There is no sound applet with mixer
alsamixergui is outdated
gamix has a buggy gui geometry issues and meter drawing inconsistencies 
gnome-alsamixer does not recognize some switches correctly
sound hotkeys do not work

Without pulseaudio sound control is broken.

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-10-01 Thread Psy[H[]
also, some gnome apps, like Totem, can't output sound. But others, like 
aisleriot, do.
Sound output is set to alsa in Multimedia Systems Selector. But there is no 
more audio preferences tool to set other categories to alsa, like it was in 
jaunty.

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-10-01 Thread Jerone Young
Moving from oem-priority as this bug has been split up into remaining
bugs.

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-10-01 Thread Jerone Young
This bug has been split into separate bugs. In Karmic many issues are
addressed. But there are still many not addressed. These bugs reflect
issues still pending:

1) Pulse audio control panel does not allow for 3, 5.1, 6.1,  7.1 speaker 
multi channel audio if supported by sound card
LP#440253

2) Move to pulse audio is not resetting volume levels at ALSA level
LP#418620

3) Sound Prefrences applet does not offer a way for laptop users to use mic 
jack attached mic
LP#418617
* Some machines are  some do not.

** Changed in: oem-priority
   Status: New = Invalid

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-10-01 Thread Brian Murray
** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: Canonical Ubuntu QA Team (canonical-qa) = (unassigned)

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-10-01 Thread Yotam Benshalom
I have a related issue:

Every time I change the master volume using my laptop media keys (lg s1, ac97 
audio) or using an app slider, it resets pcm  front volumes to 100%. 
This means that I get crackling audio almost immediately (max pcm and front 
does that), and I must keep master volume down in order to avoid it. The result 
is that I can use only low volume with my karmic system, unlike in Jaunty and 
below.

Can this be set as a oem-priority bug as well?

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Re: [Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-10-01 Thread Daniel T Chen
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Yotam Benshalom bensha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Every time I change the master volume using my laptop media keys (lg s1, ac97 
 audio) or using an app slider, it resets pcm  front volumes to 100%.
 This means that I get crackling audio almost immediately (max pcm and front 
 does that), and I must keep master volume down in order to avoid it. The 
 result is that I can use only low volume with my karmic system, unlike in 
 Jaunty and below.

This is a well-known change that really isn't PA's fault; it's really
the OEM's but unfortunately affects everyone else downstream in the
supply chain.

See 
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/pulseaudio/ubuntu/annotate/head%3A/debian/patches/0090-use-volume-ignore-for-analog-output.patch
for my change which allows you to work around the symptom.

It will not ship in Karmic final, because it will break a far larger
number of users.

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-10-01 Thread Yotam Benshalom
Thank you Daniel, you are an ear-saver! Your workaround gave me my audio
back.

Just in case it is not clear from the link, the way to revert the pcm 
front volume sliders jump to 100% with every change to master volume,
resulting in crackling sound is:

1. sudo gedit /usr/share/pulseaudio/alsa-mixer/paths/analog-output.conf.common 
2. Go to the block titled [Element PCM] and change the line  volume = merge 
to volume = ignore
3. Reboot (restarting PulseAudio isn't enough)

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-08-10 Thread Kevin Krafthefer
** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Canonical Ubuntu QA Team (canonical-qa)

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-07-27 Thread Jerone Young
@Psy[H[]
This seems to be what Fedora 11 does. They still keep the gnome volume 
mixer for alsa but call it Advanced Volume settings

Also you have pulse audio controls app (pakage  pavucontrol ). Has
a configuration tab that will control profiles for a card. Seems worth
looking at for digital out support.

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-07-27 Thread Psy[H[]
It also would be nice to preserve modularity: ability to remove
pulseaudio without consequences. Right now many important packages
depend on pulseaudio components.

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-07-22 Thread Psy[H[]
there are several gtk gui apps to alsamixer. One of them could be used,
launched through menu of sound applet.

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-07-21 Thread Sebastien Bacher
the ubuntu team has decided to move forward for karmic rather than
distro patch code which is not being worked upstream for over a cycle
now

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-07-21 Thread Jerone Young
@Sebastien
 Since this decision has been made, how does the ubuntu team plan to deal 
with all the regressions caused by this decision?

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-07-21 Thread Sebastien Bacher
There is no special ubuntu plan about that so far, first step would be
to open different bugs about each issues so those can be upstream and
tracked in a efficient way

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-07-20 Thread Jerone Young
This has returned in 9.10 alpha builds. Yet none of the issue have been
addressed.

** Also affects: oem-priority
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-07-20 Thread Dave Stroud
Indeed it has returned in harmic. I have to run sound wide open. Its
starting muted. Controls are missimg. To name a few issues.

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-04-26 Thread Jurgis Pralgauskis
** Also affects: gnome-media (Baltix)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-04-21 Thread Sebastien Bacher
** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Low

** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-04-05 Thread YeTr2
I personally prefer OSSv4 over having to use alsa and a sound server.
Now I can't control my volume at all without some really difficult
keymappings.  Thanks a bunch! :D

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-03-10 Thread Daniel T Chen
No, it's WONTFIX because the UI issues still exist in a future
development version.

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[Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-03-06 Thread Martin Pitt
This is not a jaunty issue any more, since we reverted to the intrepid
GUI for jaunty.

** Summary changed:

- gnome-volume-control in Jaunty has many use case regressions with move to 
Pulse Audio
+ future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse 
Audio

** Changed in: gnome-media (Ubuntu Jaunty)
   Status: New = Won't Fix

** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu Jaunty)
   Status: New = Won't Fix

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Re: [Bug 322909] Re: future gnome-volume-control has many use case regressions with move to Pulse Audio

2009-03-06 Thread Michael Rooney
Martin, wouldn't it more accurately be Invalid then, not Won't Fix?
There is nothing to (not) fix if the behavior has been reverted.

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