[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-04-16 Thread Reşat SABIQ
The firefox translation should actually be provided by language-pack-crh-base. 
Although the .xpi was imported on the 8th, firefox translation still wasn't 
provided by language-pack-crh-base after last Friday's full export from 
launchpad. 
If it's still possible to fix up language-pack-crh-base package to include 
firefox translations w/ initial jaunty release, that would be great. I'll check 
it in 24 hours, but it probably won't include firefox translations unless 
something is tweaked, otherwise it would've picked it up on the 10th.

Regarding the GDM lang list issue:
i. i've tried installing iso-codes-3.8 from source and the gdm lang list issue 
persisted.
ii. i've also tried removing ';' character from the locale name, and make 
installing iso-codes-3.8 with this tweak, and the gdm lang list issue 
persisted. 

This probably means the issue isn't related to iso-codes. It's either an
Ubuntu GDM customization bug, or a bug in upstream, although upstream i
was told they didn't do anything to support any locales anymore.

One more note:
When i tried to change GDM locale during signon from default crh_UA.UTF-8 to 
some other locale, the warning verbiage included "crh_UA.UTF-8" rather than 
locale name. That might be a useful indication to start looking into the root 
cause.

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-04-13 Thread Reşat SABIQ
I am now aware that apparently language-support-crh package isn't
related to gdm languages list, but the following is probably still
related to this bug:

The firefox .xpi import has succeeded, but apparently it's not been released w/ 
04/10 full export from launchpad. The following package is still not being 
built:
launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-support-crh

So we have 2 outstanding issues here, the first one probably being a bit more 
important, assuming that people can learn to install the .xpi on their own:
I. GDM languages list isn't listing crh among installed locales, even if it's 
installed.
II. language-support-crh package isn't being built yet.

P.S. I'm guessing, II. might be something easy that only requires a flip
of a switch, whereas on I. we currently don't appear to have a roadmap
yet.

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-04-12 Thread Reşat SABIQ
I was kinda tilted to thinking in that direction after seeing this bug upstream:
https://alioth.debian.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=311588&group_id=30316&atid=413077

I guess what you mean is that that bug refers to another distro, where
gdm uses iso-codes, and it doesn't apply to Ubuntu yet.

In that case, i'm in the dark on this bug here then. Just to re-iterate the 
earlier discussions, crh is missing in the following places:
1. /etc/gdm/locale.conf
2. /usr/share/language-selector/data
3. /usr/share/locale/

Perhaps the 1st step towards fixing gdm languages list issue should be
ensuring that it's present in the above locations.

Thanks.

** Bug watch added: alioth.debian.org/ #311588
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Re: [Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-04-12 Thread Arne Goetje
Reşat SABIQ wrote:
> I wonder whether upgrading 
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/iso-codes
> which is currently based on 3.6, to 3.7 or 3.8 would resolve the gdm 
> languages list issue, although the only additional relevant thing provided w/ 
> those releases is crh.po files.
> 
> P.S.
> I don't know whether it matters, but I don't see crh listed in:
> /iso-codes-3.8/notes/language-in-locales.txt
> and
> /iso-codes-3.8/notes/territory-in-locales.txt
> And the same for 3.7.
> 

It won't solve the issue with gdm, since gdm doesn't use iso-codes yet.

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-04-12 Thread Reşat SABIQ
I wonder whether upgrading 
http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/iso-codes
which is currently based on 3.6, to 3.7 or 3.8 would resolve the gdm languages 
list issue, although the only additional relevant thing provided w/ those 
releases is crh.po files.

P.S.
I don't know whether it matters, but I don't see crh listed in:
/iso-codes-3.8/notes/language-in-locales.txt
and
/iso-codes-3.8/notes/territory-in-locales.txt
And the same for 3.7.

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-04-09 Thread Reşat SABIQ
I forgot to mention: i'm wondering if ; character in language name spelling 
might be causing such hard to diagnose side effects, because it appears to be a 
"reserved" character at least in one the files involved. 
Please feel free to change ; to another character, which should be OK 
temporarily, and maybe even in the long run.

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-04-07 Thread Reşat SABIQ
I'm wondering if there is any way to get the gdm languages list issue resolved 
before final jaunty release, for which apparently the time is running out. 
I'm busy trying to do some last minute translations, but if there's anything i 
can do to help resolve the gdm issue, please let me know.

Thanks.

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-04-01 Thread Martin Pitt
** Changed in: langpack-o-matic
   Status: In Progress => Triaged

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-03-30 Thread Reşat SABIQ
Despite my inability to manually get it to work, as mentioned in my last 
comment, Martin might well be right about /etc/gdm/locale.conf being the 
roadblock, and it might start working when the package is built in a manner 
that addresses this. 
I hope this can be addressed in gdm in time for jaunty release.

P.S. As a side note, in case this tells anything to anybody, crh is also 
missing from the following, but i do not know whether that affects the gdm 
languages list issue:
a. /usr/share/language-selector/data
b. /usr/share/locale/

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-03-25 Thread Reşat SABIQ
FYI, i have tried adding the following manually to this apparently generated 
file, but it did NOT resolve the gdm issue:
Crimean_Tatar;_Crimean_Turkish(Ukraine) crh_UA
Crimean_Tatar;_Crimean_Turkish(Ukraine) crh_UA.UTF-8

I gave it about 30 minutes, maybe i missed something, but it doesn't
appear to be something that can be resolved w/ manual changes to that
file alone. Of course, since it's generated, ideally it would be done in
the source.

Is this a gnome bug, or a distro bug? I have a tracking bug on this
subject at gnome, so depending on how this is resolved, i may need to
update or close the gnome bug. I hope this can be fixed in time for
final jaunty release.

Thanks.

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-03-24 Thread Martin Pitt
Indeed, crh needs to be added to /etc/gdm/locale.conf .

** Also affects: gdm (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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Re: [Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-03-24 Thread Arne Goetje
Reşat SABIQ wrote:
> Btw., i don't think .orth could be causing gdm language selection issues, but 
> is there any chance that it could be a factor?
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/339396

I don't think that's related.
It seems to be a gdm bug, I'm currently trying to confirm it.

In the meantime yo can use language selector to set the user language to
crh.

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-03-24 Thread Reşat SABIQ
Btw., i don't think .orth could be causing gdm language selection issues, but 
is there any chance that it could be a factor?
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/339396

Thanks.

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-03-24 Thread Reşat SABIQ
I see that language-support-crh doesn't appear to affect the remaining
gdm issue, but after spending many hours on it today, i still see that
the following issue is outstanding:

crh isn't listed among available languages in the gdm login screen, even
after adding language support for crh locale. So it cannot be used
unless the user previously selected it as one's default locale. This
issue doesn't exist for az, or tr locales: i can see them in gdm
languages list after adding language support for them.

I've confirmed this on 2 machines, including performing a partial
upgrade on one of them to sync up w/ the latest packages available.

Simple test case:
1. Add language support for crh and tr.
2. Log out.
3. Check gdm languages list: tr is there, crh isn't.

Is this a gdm issue, or something missing in a file like
/etc/locale.alias, i am not sure. I was told at Gnome that they don't
keep any locale settings in gdm anymore, and yet here we are. I would
highly appareciate if you have any thoughts on this.

Thanks.

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-03-23 Thread Martin Pitt
The non-GNOME package exists now: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source
/language-pack-crh

So this should be working for crh now.

** Changed in: language-pack-gnome-crh (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

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Re: [Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-03-23 Thread Arne Goetje
Reşat SABIQ wrote:
> Turns out when i posted my last update on 03-21, 2 out of 3 packages
> were already available since 03-16. This was a good news, because now
> language support can be added as user-default language once the user is
> logged on.
> 
> However, the following package is still not available:
> language-support-crh
> 
> I believe that is why Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) isn't listed among
> available languages in the gdm login screen, even after selecting it to
> be available there. So it cannot be used unless the user previously
> selected it as the default locale.
> 
> To wrap up, this bug appears to be 66.6% resolved. Apparently it will be
> 100% resolved once language-support-crh is available. I hope so much
> that language-support-crh will be available w/ Beta.

language-support-crh is not necessary. the language-support-* packages
are meta packages with dependencies on other useful pckages in the
archive. For example thunderbird or openoffice.org translation packages,
spell checkers, etc. This is purely optional.

The packages which needs to be present for the language to be selectable
is language-pack-crh-base.

I have just uploaded new -base language packs for jaunty. Once they went
through the build process, your language should be usable. Please use
language-selector to install and activate the language.

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-03-23 Thread Reşat SABIQ
Turns out when i posted my last update on 03-21, 2 out of 3 packages
were already available since 03-16. This was a good news, because now
language support can be added as user-default language once the user is
logged on.

However, the following package is still not available:
language-support-crh

I believe that is why Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) isn't listed among
available languages in the gdm login screen, even after selecting it to
be available there. So it cannot be used unless the user previously
selected it as the default locale.

To wrap up, this bug appears to be 66.6% resolved. Apparently it will be
100% resolved once language-support-crh is available. I hope so much
that language-support-crh will be available w/ Beta.

Thank you.

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-03-20 Thread Reşat SABIQ
> OK, the issue is, that the -base package is not generated. We will fix this 
> in langpack-o-matic, which builds the
> packages.

Pleaease tell me that this is on track for Crimean Tatar (Crimean
Turkish) language support to be available with the Jaunty release? I
hope very much to be able to test this out w/ the Beta release.

P.S. Just an FYI: alacarte .po did get pulled into launchpad from
upstream earlier this week, so there doesn't appear to be any issue w/
gnome language packs.

Regards.

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-03-11 Thread Reşat SABIQ
Just a bit more info, in case it's relevant. Alacarte package for some
reason doesn't have a .po import from upstream, although gnome-panel,
which upstream was translated later than alacarte, does have a .po
import from upstream. If this tells you anything, please take it into
account. If not, then i guess it can be ignored for the time being, and
hopefully alacarte will get pulled sometimes soon as well.

Thank you so much for working on this. I look forward to Ubuntu's
language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish).

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-03-10 Thread Martin Pitt
** Changed in: langpack-o-matic
   Status: New => In Progress

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-03-10 Thread Arne Goetje
OK, the issue is, that the -base package is not generated. We will fix
this in langpack-o-matic, which builds the packages.

** Also affects: langpack-o-matic
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: langpack-o-matic
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Martin Pitt (pitti)

** Changed in: language-pack-gnome-crh (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: language-selector => language-pack-gnome-crh
   Status: In Progress => Confirmed

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-03-07 Thread Reşat SABIQ
Also, will users be able to add Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) support from 
Language Support menu item once 1 or more of the following packages are 
released:
language-pack-crh
language-pack-crh-base
language-support-crh

Just want to make sure whether this is the only "missing link".

Thanks.

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-03-07 Thread Reşat SABIQ
Hi Arne,

Did you mean you this would be released in mid-March? I tried it today, and no 
changes yet: crh is still not available in language selector. Which l10n 
packages are available also hasn't changed since Feb. 27:
Available (these packages started to get built in October of last year):
language-pack-gnome-crh: 
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-gnome-crh/
language-pack-gnome-crh-base: 
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-gnome-crh-base/

Unavailable:
language-pack-crh
language-pack-crh-base
language-support-crh

I want to make sure we have the right diagnosis, and that we get this
fixed with the first shot.

P.S. I wonder whether the building of the currently unavailable packages
depends on whether or not a Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) team is
listed under Translators Group.

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Re: [Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-02-27 Thread Arne Goetje
Arne Goetje wrote:
> Anyways, it will be fixed with the next full export, which might happen
> tonight UTC time. We will probably have language packs for crh available
> at the beginning of next week.

OK, make that "end of next week"... there is currently some trouble on
the Launchpad side and I need some fixes to go in first before I can
request an new full-export.

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-02-27 Thread Arne Goetje
Please no patch!

Language packs are generated entirely automatic.

The reason why crh is missing, is that it either didn't have any
translations in Launchpad when the first -base packages were built, or
that they were missing in the full export from Launchpad.

Anyways, it will be fixed with the next full export, which might happen
tonight UTC time. We will probably have language packs for crh available
at the beginning of next week.

To get the native name displayed in language-selector, please make sure
the corresponding language name entry in the iso-639 and iso-639-3
templates are translated into your native language. Likewise for the
country name in iso-3166.

** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Arne Goetje (arnegoetje)
   Status: New => In Progress

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-02-26 Thread Reşat SABIQ
Please let me know if i should attach a patch for this. I could easily make 
both packages by tweaking a currently supported locale, and attaching a .tar. 
Just 1 question:
Should the contents of 
language-pack-crh-base:data/crh/LC_MESSAGES
be included in such a patch?

Thanks.

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[Bug 335307] Re: Please enable language support for Crimean Tatar (Crimean Turkish) locale (crh)

2009-02-26 Thread Reşat SABIQ
Linking to language selector: that's the best i can think of at the
moment.

** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: None => language-selector

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