Closing this bug on the basis of the above comments.
** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Won't Fix
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Confusing on the kernel Linux and whole system GNU/Linux in basic-commands
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/341377
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Hi Osama,
You have done the same thing yourself - you said google for it instead
of used an Internet search engine. That's the point, language changes
- nouns often become verbs if their meaning is widely enough understood
and there's no well known alternative.
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Confusing on the kernel Linux
I reported that 'Linux' is confusing and used wrongly. I suggested
(above) 'GNU/Linux' or 'Ubuntu'. I think GNU/Linux is the best choice as
this document is a general statement and could be applied on any
GNU/Linux operating system, not only Ubuntu.
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Confusing on the kernel Linux and whole
Hi Osama,
While there is technically an ambiguity between Linux the operating
system and Linux the kernel, in practice there is no confusion, for
the following reasons:
* Most users neither know nor care what a kernel is, and any user
documentation is going to be referring to Linux the
GNU/Linux isn't confusing, because it is already used in Ubuntu
documentations and the term explained in about-ubuntu. It is even used
twice in basic-commands, the aim is to use it instead of the incorrect
current one. The user who finds the term 'GNU/Linux', will google for it
and find out the
Hi Osama,
I disagree that the term GNU/Linux isn't confusing. Try asking a few
non-technical computer users their opinion. We can't rely on users
having read about-ubuntu either - most users look at the documentation
to find a small snippet of information and then stop reading. Very few
read the
With respect, this is splitting hairs. Bash is GNU but the way it is
accessed mightn't be a GNU program at all. I don't think its necessary
to explain the kernel at all in the basic commands section - perhaps a
reference in the introduction section (which I _think_ there already
is), illustrating
Bash is a part of GNU project and it isn't the correct alternative
always. In number one, the whole operating system is case sensitive, not
only Bash (filenames, most of programming language, and so on). In
number two, you can see clearly that the whole system is meant so as in
number three and
This might be simple enough for you but it is not clear to me and as
you haven't supplied a patch I need to understand what you are reporting
before I patch it, otherwise there will be more bug reports.
Which terms do you want used in each example?
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Confusing on the kernel Linux and whole
The word has come to mean the entire operating system and associated
packages in much the same way as Hoover has come to mean vacuum
cleaner or Coke has come to mean cola.
The use of the term Ubuntu in this context is inappropriate as it
conveys that Linux is Ubuntu, which is no more correct than
I would agree with you if Bash isn't a GNU software. Here, we don't
explain the 'kernel' *at all*, we explain the GNU shell tool which has
no relative to the 'kernel'. I think you can also use the Bash package
under any UNIX-like operating system, e.g. BSD. which means it has
nothing to do with
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