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Ubuntu 10.10 installs and runs correctly on the Toshiba Satellite
A355-S6935 laptop with the full 4GB of memory installed. The
pci=use_crs option is no longer needed.
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Thanks, Peter!
Here's what happens without pci=use_crs:
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (:00)
pci_root PNP0A08:00: host bridge window [mem 0xc000-0xfebf] (ignored)
pci :00:01.0: PCI bridge to [bus 01-01]
pci :00:01.0: bridge window [mem 0xbfe0-0xbfef]=
The normal method is to assume that all addresses to go the PCI bus
unless they're claimed by RAM or other builtin devices first. That's
certainly not true when we have more than one PCI host bridge, and
apparently it's not true even on some single-bridge machines like this
A355.
_CRS is the way
Here's dmesg from 2.6.33-rc8 without the pci=use_crs option.
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This option force on kernel to use other method of allocation PCI resources.
IHMO only way to use this method (CRS) is append this option to kernel
parameters. So I think this resolution is not best, becouse this is not nature
of the problem.
The question is: why kernel with 4gb ram can't
Thanks sypky for your answer. But which are the repercussions of using
the CRS method instead of the normal approach? Is it better? Is it
worse?
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Today I found better resolution. Please append pci=use_crs to kernel
boot options.
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Great! That totally worked! Thank you so much!
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BTW, what that pci=usr_crs does?
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This fixed it for me as well.
You rock, man.
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How can I install an unstable git version of the kernel 2.6.30 above
git18 ? Any tip? I don't even know where to get the code :)
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On 2.6.32 and 2.6.33-rc1-git4 still not work ;(
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On unstable git versions kernel 2.6.30 above git18 - (2.6.30-git19 -
2.6.30-git22) ATI driver (fglrx) and open driver (radeon/radeonhd) work
fine. In my opinion this change is only implemented in kernel unstable
version, so maybe they forget about add this changes to stable kernel
tree or they
Does stable 2.6.32 work? (i'm still on Jaunty)
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I have tried installing a driver through envyng, the ATI driver and the fglrx
driver through Hardware Drivers.
And then limited the RAM to 2GB.
Still this does not work for me.
I am new to using Ubuntu. Am I missing some steps in what should be
done?
I am using Ubuntu 9.10 amd64 and had
Sorry mistyped. My processor is P7450 and the card is obviously ATI
Mobility Radeon HD 3650
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I thought I would share this link http://madduck.net/blog/2009.11.18
:ram-reclaimed-mystery-solved/ which explains a bit about MTRR.
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Hi everybody,
I tried ubuntu 9.10 32bit standart and pae kernel, both are not working. Still
the same problems, with 2GB of RAM everything works fine, 4GB of RAM give me a
shell, no X. I also tried the 'enable_mtrr_cleanup' and 'mem=2GB' boot options
on both kernels without success. Any ideas?
On the off chance anyone is paying attention who knows anything about
this stuff, here's some more data.
I'm uploading 6 files. Three each for my laptop with 2GB main memory
installed and 4GB installed. One is cat /proc/mtrr, one is lspci -v, and
the last is a copy of Xorg.log.
Also I found a
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** Attachment added: 2g-xorg.log
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35337092/2g-xorg.log
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http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35337132/4g-mtrr.log
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http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35337163/4g-lspci.log
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http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35337185/4g-xorg.log
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One thing I forgot to mention is that these attempts to launch X are
with the ATI proprietary driver. It exhibits nearly the same behavior as
the radeon driver. The only difference is that if I use the ATI
proprietary driver, it doesn't sit at a blank screen forever when I have
4GB in the machine,
I got hold of the toshiba A350 again. I tried ubuntu 9.10 64bit. After I
installed it I removed 2GB RAM. It works! Great, what a relief!
Since linux is so nice to me I can live with 2GB at the moment. I still think
the reason for the 4GB RAM problem is the driver itself. It is not able to live
The problem affects me in both on 9.04 and 9.10RC, amd64 versions (Tosh
A350 4Gb RAM and HD3650). Currently using the VESA drivers... which dont
support standby...
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OK. What about the resolution with VESA? I have a 1366x768 resolution
LCD monitor but with VESA I was able just to get a 1024x768 resolution.
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Hello there,
I have this problem on a Toshiba Satellite A350 with ATI Mobility Radeon
HD 3650. I have just tried the ubuntu 9.10 . The problem still exists.
My screen is black.
I have not tried to remove two of the four Gig RAM yet. I will try this as soon
as I get hold of the notebook again.
After literally months of trying, I was not able to resolve the issue. I
was able to run it in a virtual machine by reducing the RAM being utilized
by the Guest OS (Ubuntu), but the performance was sluggish and their were
still display issues on boot up. It was not a satisfactory solution for
I'll try 9.10 soon. I don't think this is an ATI issue because the same
happens using other open source drivers. Is this problem present using
Ubuntu 64-bit or is just something present only in 32-bit versions?
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Please don't use the link I posted above, there is a newer kernel in
Karmic now. Find it here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux
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I've tried to install 2.6.31-10.32 and something went wrong and I
couldn't even boot with 2GB RAM. After the last kernel update for my
9.04 distro I've tried to put the other 2GB's back but unfortunately the
old black screen appeared once again. I'm attaching my Xorg.0.log file.
Thank you!
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BTW, i'm on Jaunty 32-bits
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Recompiling the 2.6.28 should not be necessary if you use the boot
options above. You can try the Karmic kernel on your Jaunty system, just
download the deb from https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/i386
/linux-image-2.6.31-10-generic/2.6.31-10.32
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If adding enable_mtrr_cleanup mtrr_spare_reg_nr=0 to the boot options
does not help, then the issue is more complicated than described
upstream.
Can you anyway please try the Karmic kernel?
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I did that with radeonhd driver and nothing happened. The same black
screen appeared. Please, let me know in which context should I try this
configuration... should I be using an specific driver (ati, radeon,
radeonhd, fglrx)? should this work with a 4GB RAM configuration or
should I remove 2GB
This should have worked with the default driver (-ati/-radeon) and with
the 4 GB RAM. I don't know if the Karmic kernel has much changes in this
regard, but it would be a very quick test for those of you who have the
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I'm on Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty). I've recompiled the 2.6.28 kernel with the
MTRR adjustments and then I've tried ati, radeon and radeonhd
drivers... all them with similar results: black screen or low graphics
mode. I'll try with fglrx later.
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I have this same issue with my new Toshiba A355-SP7927R notebook with
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650. I've read a lot about this problem but it's
difficult to me to track what's going on with this. Where can I track
the kernel modification status? Is there any other bug tracking site
where this bug
I just now tried that new driver and guide, but still no luck.
My notebook freezes when starting X on ATi Mobility Radeon HD 3650 with 4GB RAM.
With 2GB works perfectly. :s
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I have got fglrx to work on Ubuntu/Jaunty with the latest driver from ati
(ati-driver-installer-9-8-x86.x86_64.run).
Here is the installation guide I used:
http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_drivers_manually
It is not perfect, but at least it works.
Addtionally from the upstream bug report:
The bios is setting up the mtrrs wrong. The fix is to enable the MTRR
cleanup support (CONFIG_MTRR_SANITIZER) option in the kernel:
http://lists.opensuse.org/radeonhd/2009-05/msg00070.html;
And from the link:
I enabled MTRR cleanup support
From the upstream report: this is a bios issue that needs to be fixed
in the kernel. so am reassigning to the kernel.
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Same here, i just took out 2GB of RAM and everything works fine now.
If anyone got any workaround or anythin else that will make it work with 4GB
RAM, please let us know. :) cheers!
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sweet...I just added the xorg-edgers ppa to my repositories. Would it
be wise to keep it, or will the ati fixes come through the normal
sources? R
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On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 08:06:10PM -, shelvingguy wrote:
sweet...I just added the xorg-edgers ppa to my repositories.
And did that fix the issue? What was the exact package and version you
installed from xorg-edgers that solved it?
Would it be wise to keep it, or will the ati fixes come
Generally there are no card driver (like -ati) packages in the xorg-
edgers PPA (only for -intel because it is so... special). Test packages
for -ati are in my own PPA. However I don't think there is anything that
should have fixed this bug at this point. I asked specifically for
testing of one
I just saw Alex's post of today in the upstream report. The
2.6.28-12-generic kernel in Jaunty actually has CONFIG_MTRR_SANITIZER=y
so please try the boot options mentioned in that mailing list thread. (I
think enable_mtrr_cleanup mtrr_spare_reg_nr=0 should do it but please
read that thread
Same Bug here, I also have
(II) RADEON(0): Detected total video RAM=4194303K, accessible=524288K
(PCI BAR=524288K)
in my Xorg.0.log.
Did anyone find a solution without removing 2GB Ram? I did a BIOS update
for my Toshiba Satellite A350, but there is still no option in the BIOS
to set the Ram
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Anyone had a chance to test so far?
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Please try 1:6.12.0.99~git20090316.a6855c37-0ubuntu0tormod from my PPA
once it is built.
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There is a typo in your xorg.conf: There must be a space between
AccelMethod and XAA.
Yes, the xorg.conf is minimal. This is because the new server/drivers do
more autoconfiguration, on the fly.
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I corrected the xorg.conf and I will attach the file, and the
Xorg.0.log.
What do you think of the post on the forum about removing RAM? I don't
want to have to remove 2GB of RAM, but does it shine any light on the
issue?
Thanks.
** Attachment added: xorg.conf
** Attachment added: Xorg.0.log
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/23822507/Xorg.0.log
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Does removing RAM also solve the issue when using the -ati/-radeon
driver?
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this bug in case upstream needs more information or wishes you to test
something. Thanks ahead of time!
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I have uploaded a new PPA package with the proposed patch from the
upstream report, please test 1:6.11.0.99+git20090313.104e13da-
0ubuntu0tormod2 (when it's ready).
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Removing 2GB of memory also works for the ati drivers. Attaching the
Xorg.0.log from a successful run with only 2GB memory installed.
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Comparing the working and the non-working Xorg.0.logs shows that the
video card memory is being detected incorrectly when 4GB of RAM are
installed. When only 2GB of RAM are installed 524288K of video RAM are
correctly detected. When 4GB of RAM are installed 4194303KB of video
RAM are detected,
Please attach the output from lspci -vvnn.
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It looked different when I ran it as root, so I attached both.
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Seems like more people in
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1076047 are bitten by this one.
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Status: New = Confirmed
** Description changed:
Binary package hint: xserver-xorg-video-ati
I have a Toshiba Satellite A355 with Intel
Can you please update your Jaunty installation (so that you get xserver-
xorg-core 1.6 and libdrm2 2.4.5) and attach the new log?
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(Please also update to the newest PPA packages of -ati/-radeon)
Can you please try to add
Option AccelMethod XAA
to the Device section of your xorg.conf? I am not sure these cards should use
EXA if DRI is not enabled.
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I updated Juanty. It looks like the xserver-xorg-core 1.6 and libdrm2
were installed with the update.
I also reinstalled xserver-xorg-video-ati_6.11.0.99+git20090311
.945ccbbd-0ubuntu0tormod_amd64.deb and the corresponding radeon package.
I added Option AccelMethod XAA to xorg.conf.
Xorg.conf
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