[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-11 Thread Matthew East
@mac_v and Alex: have you read the wiki page I linked in comment 23? That is part of defined Ubuntu branding policy from as long ago as 2006 to eliminate the use of the development code name from any user visible space. -- System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-11 Thread mac_v
@Mathew, my comments are only after i'v read the wiki... Since its a wiki , and atleast 1yr old page , it is not clear who has made the page... AFAIC , it doesnt seem to be an official page , or an official decision Ubuntu wants to take... If it was the official decision , why was it not done

Re: [Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-11 Thread Matthew East
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:29 AM, mac_vdrkv...@yahoo.com wrote: @Mathew, my comments are only after i'v read the wiki... Since its a wiki , and atleast 1yr old page , it is not clear who has made the page... AFAIC , it doesnt seem to be an official page , or an official decision Ubuntu wants

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-11 Thread mac_v
Ok... i think you are right https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames , says the the Official name is the number... But again, to re-enforce the problems comments #24 and #25 are valid causes of concern. All external repos, lp repos refer to codenames!Even the ubuntuforums.org only list

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-11 Thread Phil Bull
Wow, I can't believe that such a minor bug has generated so many comments. I'm going to add one more: I know that the policy states that we should refer to Ubuntu releases by their release number, but a sufficient number of people use the codenames that we should provide some way of users finding

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-11 Thread Dougie Richardson
Like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames ? It's also the first Google hit on Ubuntu code names. -- System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/395905 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs,

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-10 Thread David Terei
This is a problem thats always annoyed me greatly. I don't know for how many versions its said the phrase 'Thank you for your interest in Ubuntu 9.04 - the Jaunty Jackalope - released in April 2009.' But I only noticed it after coming to this bug report as I was planning on reporting it myself.

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-10 Thread mac_v
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Assignee: Kenneth Wimer (kwwii) = (unassigned) -- System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/395905 You received this bug

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-10 Thread Matthew East
@David - I entirely agree with your comment as follows: This to me is a ubuntu wide branding problem though, having both the version names such as 'Jaunty Jackalope' (which I just had to look up since I didnt know it) and 9.04. Pretty confusing to new users when the same product keeps getting

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-10 Thread mac_v
Also, any repo will only have code names , in the sources line. Users might not know both the names Jaunty Jackalope , but surely would know Jaunty , its hard *not* to notice that when you are adding repos. -- System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-10 Thread mac_v
@Matthew East , i disagree. The code names are commonly used , irc / ubuntuforums / other online help resources , to identify the version. Removing the codes names from the About-Ubuntu ,would only make it difficult for users to identify their OS and cause more confusion. -- System-About

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-10 Thread Alex Lourie
The name of the version IS part of the branding. It is interchangeably used in various sources, and as such, there's no good reason to remove it from the about-ubuntu dialog. -- System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/395905 You

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-06 Thread vhellmet
An easier way to do is would be to have something similar to what you get when you do About Firefox with the window showing links to ubuntu docs, to update current running ubuntu etc. -- System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/395905

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-06 Thread Matthew East
vhellmet - it's a good idea, and something like this was planned (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/AboutThisComputer) but the specification appears to have been abandoned: ted-gould, 2008-06-02: Made obsolete after discussions at UDS. Doesn't currently match our desktop goals and QA is

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-03 Thread David Siegel
Matt, can we please re-open this and include a change to the Ubuntu logo graphic shown in the help viewer? ** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed = Confirmed ** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Matthew East (mdke) -- System-About Ubuntu

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-03 Thread David Siegel
Ken, can you please take a look at the mockup I've attached and supply Matthew with an updated graphic to use? ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Assignee: (unassigned) = Kenneth Wimer (kwwii) -- System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-03 Thread David Siegel
** Attachment added: Compaing 9.04 help and suggest changes. http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29825417/about_ubuntu_mockup.png -- System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/395905 You received this bug notification because you are a

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-03 Thread Kenneth Wimer
In addition, it is probably not a good idea to tack a version number on the end of the logo, branding and all. -- System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/395905 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-03 Thread Kenneth Wimer
I think that adding an extra number to the graphic is not necessary. I agree that thanking someone for their interest in Ubuntu is somewhat unnecessary after they have already installed the system (sounds like this came from the liveCD or such). In any case a simple and clear text with the version

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-03 Thread Matthew East
I agree with Kenneth that adding a version number to the graphic is undesirable. Most importantly, it's contrary to the usual branding philosophy used in relation to the logo (i.e. that it should remain unchanged except where there is a good reason to change it) - this is to ensure consistency

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-03 Thread Kenneth Wimer
In addition, adding it to the graphic makes it impossible to translate into other languages/char-sets -- System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/395905 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-03 Thread David Siegel
Ken, agreed. Paper cut is considered fixed, as the sentence containing the version number was improved to make it clear which version of Ubuntu you are running. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed -- System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-08-01 Thread PeterShinners
The documentation package could be updated after each release to include information about newer releases. This should allow the documentation to dynamically update a couple times each year. -- System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-07-28 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu-docs -- System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/395905 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-07-28 Thread Matthew East
We can't easily implement either the suggestion to include whether updates are available or whether the version is the most recent version of Ubuntu or not, because those are both things that change during the lifetime of an Ubuntu system and the help system that Ubuntu uses doesn't allow us to

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-07-27 Thread Alex Lourie
I really like Hercules' concept, but here's one caveat: it may be possible to update Ubuntu, but not necessarily to the next or other version. So, it may include phrases like: This is the most up to date version of Ubuntu available - version/You are using the most updated version of Ubuntu -

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-07-25 Thread Matthew East
Perhaps all that is needed to fix this bug is to say: You are using Ubuntu 9.04 - the Jaunty Jackalope - released in April 2009. Instead of: Thank you for your interest in Ubuntu 9.04 - the Jaunty Jackalope - released in April 2009. I personally don't think the existing phrase is unclear at

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-07-25 Thread Hercules_100_98
I agree with the poster of this bug. Thanking someone for their interest after they have installed the OS on their machine is a little condescending. Displaying that screen under a Live CD environment is fine as people are mostly still at the evaluation stage and have yet to commit. The only

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-07-22 Thread PeterShinners
What makes this a challenging ticket is the ubuntu-docs package. I can find no way to test and see the results of anything I do in the source xml. I've tried to create a patch for this, but I have a fear this is not valid docbook xml any longer. For what it's worth, here this was my idea. This

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-07-22 Thread PeterShinners
What makes this a challenging ticket is the ubuntu-docs package. I can find no way to test and see the results of anything I do in the source xml. I've tried to create a patch for this, but I have a fear this is not valid docbook xml any longer. For what it's worth, here this was my idea. This

Re: [Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-07-22 Thread Dean Sas
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 07:52, PeterShinnersp...@shinners.org wrote: What makes this a challenging ticket is the ubuntu-docs package. I can find no way to test and see the results of anything I do in the source xml. yelp /path/to/your.xml (there was a bug which meant the full path was needed,

[Bug 395905] Re: System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information

2009-07-15 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
** Also affects: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- System-About Ubuntu should more directly display version information https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/395905 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to