[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-11-17 Thread Ubuntu QA Website
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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-11-17 Thread dlvetter
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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-11-17 Thread Michele Mordenti
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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-10-12 Thread The Recorder
I, also, am using the beta and I a still having udev error messages.

can not read '/etc/udev/rules.d/z80_user.rules'

z80_user.rules is a symlink to /etc/udev/user.rules which is empty.

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-10-09 Thread Kaïs Bejaoui
Hi,

I am using the beta and I a still having udev error messages.

can not read '/etc/udev/rules.d/z80_user.rules' f9

z80_user.rules is a symlink to /etc/udev/user.rules which is empty.

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-10-02 Thread Dan Andreșan
@bwat47, please read the title of this bug.

Check if text you see on screen is coming from udev. It should not, as this is 
fixed.
The other text items might still appear (I have them on my computer), but 
this is not traced by this bug.

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-10-01 Thread bwat47
This is NOT fixed for me with  a gateway m6862 running karmic 64 bit
with all latest updates. specs are (2.0 ghz core2, 4 gb ram, mobility
2600 with fglrx driver)

When I boot I see text messeges saying things like warning unsupported
bios version and other things, it only goes to the boot screen for a
split second most of my boot is text.

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-26 Thread Florian
Got it with alpha 5.
Got it again with alpha 6 (reinstall).
First I suspected a creative partition layout of
sda1 = NTFS
sda2 = FAT32
sdaX = boot
sdaY = swap
rest = encrypted with LVM inside

It boots fine and all is working, but the message is still there (hp
nx7010 laptop)

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-24 Thread nerling
Kubuntu Karmic x64, 
I'm experimenting the same issue as ilna describes: 
After a upgrade KDE starts, but mouse and keyboard(s) are not usable.
I tried with gdm, but it does not start. (upstart)
I see that no upstart service will be started on boot in my machine. Maybe this 
is the whole problem! 
udev is not starting,too! no pts, no psaux! no tty! 

The last upgrade (as from Thu Sep 24 10:33:11 2009 ) does not fix the
issue.

Well, I'm not grounching, since it is alpha software, but I was really
loving to use Karmic.

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-23 Thread starslights
Hello,

The last update done the 23.09.09 for Kubuntu Karmic 64 , have fixed the
boot message and start normally yet.

Thanks very much, fixed for me :)

my best

Stars

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-23 Thread dominique
me too
  my best too


dom

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-22 Thread jasmineaura
@ Scott in #42
What are you on?

Must've been some really burnt coffee beans, never again :P

I know it's a pre-release, and I know this is all too possible in ALPHA
stage, just thought that with the october release deadline drawing
close, such surprises weren't very probable, I guessed wrong. I probably
was all emo then due to the fact that I auto-clean'ed my apt-cache and
there was no way for me to revert back to 147~-1 or earlier..

I apologized in #39 for the wasted space on off-topic discussion due to
my ignorance, and I apologize again for my earlier bitching... I
appreciate all the work, and I actually got a little high off the
flaming, lol... Thanks, and keep up the good work :)

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-22 Thread starslights
Hello,

It's fixed for me for the udev but at start it continue to boot with:

clean sda/  and it delete something before start normally.

My biggest problem are to need advice, i need to know how i can stop the
boot to can copy the message of the execution of the clean process. Now
i have no time with 4 cores to can do that.

If someone can help me , that's will be great!

Before make a new report , i will wait a answer, anyway this is appear
when udev have make problem, not early.

my best

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-21 Thread jasmineaura
Well, everyone keeps saying usplash was disabled, I figured I must be
missing something obvious. But it didn't seem as though, because I was
mislead...

On September 2nd, 2008, Scott Remnant wrote, on:
http://www.netsplit.com/2009/09/02/making-a-splash/

You could also argue that we could load the KMS drivers earlier, in the
initramfs for example.  While possible, this adds a significant time to
the boot time for the extra loading and probing required.  If we load
the KMS driver in the initramfs, it takes about 8-10s to load the X
server; if we load the KMS driver in the full system, it only takes
about 6-8s to load the X server.  Easy win.

But what if we have to check the filesystem, or enter a decryption
passphrase to mount it?  That’s why we still have usplash.  In those
cases we will start usplash to display the progress or request the key.
The usplash theme will be themed such that when it finishes, and X
starts up, it looks ok frozen for the short time until xsplash replaces
it with an identical theme.

So I was under the impression that usplash was here to stay, with the
addition of xsplash..

However, on a minimal / command-line installed system, xsplash may be
too much for the system to handle, in terms of resources, and in terms
of graphical support, if a minimal X environment was later installed.
For instance, on my test-bed system, a neomagic 256ZX with 4mb video ram
is not capable of supporting 24-bit color depth, as its max supported
resolution is 1024x768 @ 16-bit depth.

To make matters worse, the new feature added by the stream of fixes described 
in bug #427356 Boot performance updates, the newly added option USPLASH=y 
to initramsfs-tools was nowhere to be mentioned.. Not in the default 
/etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf file, nor in `man initramfs.conf`, nor in 
any of the usplash package files :(
I guess I should open a new seperate bug report to add mention for this new 
option to `main initramfs.conf` and to at least include USPLASH=n in the 
default initramfs.conf

Apologies to Scott for all the space I wasted here, off-topic.

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-21 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/udev/ubuntu

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-21 Thread SRElysian
IMO, when using a alpha-state release, one should be glad they are only
seeing warnings instead of errors. I've had the same warnings as
everyone else and so long as my system is operating properly, I don't
care about the warnings so long as I know they will be fixed. As for the
off-topic usplash conversation, they are replacing usplash with xsplash.
Which I found here: http://digitizor.com/2009/09/19/ubuntu-9-10-does-
away-with-the-usplash/

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-21 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package udev - 147~-3

---
udev (147~-3) karmic; urgency=low

  * Update to GIT HEAD (still pre 147 release):
- includes fix from previous revision
- rename interfaces to iface_rename if rename fails.  LP: #416782.
- drop most NAME keys since 2.6.31 supplies them.
- especially those with just %k.  LP: #430654.
- fixed SYMLINK option parsing.  LP: #430654.

  * Remove 40-alsa.rules now it's not shipped upstream.

 -- Scott James Remnant sc...@ubuntu.com   Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:02:32
-0700

** Changed in: udev (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: Triaged = Fix Released

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Re: [Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-21 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 05:59 +, jasmineaura wrote:

 This is really lousy of udev developers, knowing such warnings exist, which 
 could be trivially fixed before the release, 
 and yet they release it as it is
 
What are you on?

This hasn't been released.  There's been no udev 147 release yet, as I
clearly said above *and* in the changelog, we've gone with a pre-release
for testing purposes.

And Ubuntu 9.04 hasn't been released yet either.


Stop bitching about things in a DEVELOPMENT version of Ubuntu.

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-21 Thread jasmineaura
@ #40 SRElysian
Thanks, agreed... Perhaps it was a naive decision of me to upgrade someone's 
production system (based on their request) to Alpha stage merely for the reason 
of wanting bleeding edge packages that contain additional language support. 
Never again :p
Luckily, the (trivial) bug is now fixed and the warnings are gone :)

As to your comment about *splash, I doubt xsplash will replace usplash, simply 
because u cannot load an X server while running `fsck`, fs requiring encrypted 
password, etc... Even in the non-exceptional cases, having both usplash and 
xsplash, usplash kicks in for most of the boot time than xsplash does on my 
test-bed slow (minimal install) system - P3 500mhz, 192mb PC100 RAM.. That is, 
usplash for about 16 seconds, no *splash for about a 7-8 second gap, then 
xsplash for 4-5 seconds :p
Meanwhile, discussion about this is taking place in bug #427356 (Boot 
Performance Updates), as we agreed this is off-topic here..

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-21 Thread GokuH12
Its fixed for me too the bug itself, but the problem with Xsplash not loading 
keep going **off-topic
thx for the work :D

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-21 Thread knarf
PS Scott #20, why would there be any danger of hosing the system by
fixing a bug? Those {unique} parameters currently cause problems, they
are a new addition to the rules file, it works fine without (just check
the file used in Debian for an example). If and when udev starts
supporting them they can be put back in the config file. For now they
should not be there as they cause problems.

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-21 Thread knarf
PPS: yes I know that usplash has been deactivated...

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Re: [Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-21 Thread Ryan Ash
knarf,

I'm eager to get booting under 2.6.31, can you explain exactly what needs to
be edited in order for me to squash this bug.

Best,
ashzilla

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:55 AM, knarf launchpad-
ubunt...@unternet.orgwrote:

 PS Scott #20, why would there be any danger of hosing the system by
 fixing a bug? Those {unique} parameters currently cause problems, they
 are a new addition to the rules file, it works fine without (just check
 the file used in Debian for an example). If and when udev starts
 supporting them they can be put back in the config file. For now they
 should not be there as they cause problems.

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-20 Thread aliendude5300
I am also affected by this bug. Running Karmic with all updates
installed on x86 build.

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-20 Thread jasmineaura
In comment #24 by Travis Watkins:
These warnings are not the reason why you aren't seeing usplash. If usplash 
was running you wouldn't see them at all.
You aren't seeing usplash because it was disabled.

I'm pretty sure usplash is enabled... It was working absolutely fine, up until 
the udev upgrade. Moreoever, the framebuffer module is loaded from initramfs, 
evidently because the console resolution is changed to 1024x768 right before 
the udev errors appear on the screen (before anything else).
At reboot, usplash certainly splashes the all-too-familiar shutdown screen, and 
I'm pretty certain it's not xsplash or anything else, because I had previously 
purged xsplash.

I remember in the days of using gentoo and fbsplash, if there were such
early errors/warning, sometimes they would show through the fbsplash
image, but ..

usplash is not fbsplash.. :)

Moreover, the issue is not only with a custom kernel, because it is also
exhibited with booting any of the generic kernels..

And I just upgraded udev to ~147-2 from the latest updates, and the
issue still persists (the warnings still show very first thing on
console after kernel bootstrap)

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-20 Thread zniavre
as jasmineaura i upgraded udev few minutes ago and it 's exactly the
same as before.

karmic on 2.6.31-10-generic

good evening (bon courage)

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-20 Thread jasmineaura
Moreover, there's a thread on ubuntuforums:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1267658page=3

You can see on the first post on that third page of the thread a
sarcastic comment The error is nice for bootscreen, clearly implying
no usplash after the udev upgrade. Similar to the original poster's
comment (first post in thread): I now see some crazy boot messages that
delay or keep xsplash from working

Certainly, I'm not the only one out there with usplash-stopped-working-
due-to-udev-warnings problem :)

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-20 Thread Andrew Rodland
Correction: you're not the only one who *thinks* they have such a
problem, due to ignorant people shouting ignorant things in an echo
chamber.

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-20 Thread jasmineaura
@ Andrew Rodland

Let's not ASSUME things, because assuming makes an *** out of U and ME
:)

j...@dcptc:/etc$ ls -l rc*.d/*usplash
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2009-09-17 22:07 rc0.d/K02usplash - ../init.d/usplash
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2009-09-17 22:07 rc1.d/K02usplash - ../init.d/usplash
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2009-09-17 22:07 rc2.d/S98usplash - ../init.d/usplash
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2009-09-17 22:07 rc3.d/S98usplash - ../init.d/usplash
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2009-09-17 22:07 rc4.d/S98usplash - ../init.d/usplash
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2009-09-17 22:07 rc5.d/S98usplash - ../init.d/usplash
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2009-09-17 22:07 rc6.d/K02usplash - ../init.d/usplash

j...@dcptc:/etc$ sudo grep splash quiet /boot/grub/grub.cfg | wc -l
6
j...@dcptc:/etc$ sudo grep vmlinuz /boot/grub/grub.cfg | wc -l
6
j...@dcptc:/etc$ sudo grep initrd /boot/grub/grub.cfg | wc -l
6

j...@dcptc:/etc$ cat initramfs-tools/modules | grep -v ^#
neofb
fbcon
vgastate
tileblit
font
bitblit

j...@dcptc:/etc$ apt-cache policy usplash
usplash:
  Installed: 0.5.37
  Candidate: 0.5.37
  Version table:
 *** 0.5.37 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

j...@dcptc:/etc$ apt-cache policy udev
udev:
  Installed: 147~-2
  Candidate: 147~-2
  Version table:
 *** 147~-2 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Cheers

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-19 Thread starslights
kubuntu karmic 64   2.6.31-10-generic

2009-09-19 21:24:03 udevd[1264] NAME=%k is superfluous and 
breaks kernel supplied names, please remove it from 
/lib/udev/rules.d/40-ppc.rules:3
2009-09-19 21:24:03 udevd[1264] NAME=%k is superfluous and 
breaks kernel supplied names, please remove it from 
/lib/udev/rules.d/40-ppc.rules:4
2009-09-19 21:24:03 udevd[1264] NAME=%k is superfluous and 
breaks kernel supplied names, please remove it from 
/lib/udev/rules.d/40-ppc.rules:5
2009-09-19 21:24:03 udevd[1264] unknown key 'SYMLINK{unique}' 
in /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules:3
2009-09-19 21:24:03 udevd[1264] unknown key 'SYMLINK{unique}' 
in /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules:4
2009-09-19 21:24:10 dbus-daemon Reloaded configuration

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-18 Thread jasmineaura
This is really lousy of udev developers, knowing such warnings exist, which 
could be trivially fixed before the release, and yet they release it as it 
is... At least if they had the courtesy to think that others may well be 
working on usplash, xsplash, and other *splash stuff, testing things out so 
they too, can make things pretty and meet deadlines before the release date 
in october... One whole week, *splash developers, splash themes designers, will 
have wasted while waiting for a udev update for these warnings to go away, and 
possibly thousands of users will have to put up with the annoyance, 'cause 
someone thought it was just fine and dandy to release a udev package that just 
spits out 6 warnings for a week's worth of testing...
If the problem wasn't always reproducible, I'd give them some slack, but IT IS!

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-18 Thread Madis
I assume this would consume time that could not be consumed on this. And
I'm pretty sure Beta is more prioritized than the alpha 6.

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-18 Thread Travis Watkins
These warnings are not the reason why you aren't seeing usplash. If
usplash was running you wouldn't see them at all.

You aren't seeing usplash because it was disabled.

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-18 Thread starslights
Hello,

I have forget to say, after it make the Udev errors, it auto fcsk to
can boot, i dunno if come from crypto or from this bug

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-18 Thread Daniel Swarbrick
With respect to the /dev/dri issue, I see that happening too, and it
coincided with the appearance of these udev error messages. Without DRM,
X is very, very slow. This happens on my system about once in every five
boots I don't know whether the failure to create /dev/dri nodes are
linked to the udev errors, or whether I'm just not seeing the error
messages when KMS is successfully enabled. They seem to go hand in hand
at the moment though.

See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/431178

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-18 Thread Dereck Wonnacott
** Description changed:

  Binary package hint: udev
  
  After the latest udev upgrade on Karmic x64 (related to the transition
  to upstart jobs), my computer produces several udev errors when it is
  booting.  None appear to be serious, and the system still boots
  properly, but they may be important on other architectures, so I decided
  to report a bug.  I attached a picture of the errors.
+ 
+ This occurred on 32 bit systems as well.

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-18 Thread Robbie Williamson
changed to Medium because it affects boot experience.

** Also affects: udev (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Importance: Low
 Assignee: Scott James Remnant (scott)
   Status: Triaged

** Changed in: udev (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Importance: Low = Medium

** Tags added: ubuntu-boot

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-18 Thread Keith Drummond
I am affected by this too. Running Karmic Alpha 6, on an Advent 4211
netbook with an Atom processor.

Basically seeing text on start-up (mentioning udev) and after shutdown.

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-17 Thread blakamin
Is this bug going to be present in alpha 6?

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-17 Thread Klaus Doblmann
Yes it is, as alpha 6 will be out today and the bug will be fixed next
week.

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-17 Thread knarf
Edit that file (/lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules) and remove the
'unique' classifiers. The attached patch will accomplish this. This
solved the issue for me.

** Attachment added: Revert to normal SYMLINK, remove the 'unique' classifiers
   
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31965047/udev-50-default-rules-remove-unique.patch

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Re: [Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-17 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 11:19 +, knarf wrote:

 Edit that file (/lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules) and remove the
 'unique' classifiers. The attached patch will accomplish this. This
 solved the issue for me.
 
 ** Attachment added: Revert to normal SYMLINK, remove the 'unique' 
 classifiers

 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31965047/udev-50-default-rules-remove-unique.patch
 
DO NOT DO THIS.

You could potentially hose your system.  Please just leave this file
alone, it will be fixed next week.

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-17 Thread jcwinnie
It would seem to be a problem with more than karmic 64. A similar
warning appears at boot up on a Dell Latitude D600 with
2.6.31-10-generic and most recent updates.

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-16 Thread Scott James Remnant
This is perfectly normal, and is to be expected.

We're running a GIT HEAD version of udev to do some testing, the
warnings will be fixed with udev upstream next week and result in the
udev 147 release proper.

** Summary changed:

- udev produces several error messages on boot with latest update (147)
+ udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

** Changed in: udev (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Low

** Changed in: udev (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Triaged

** Changed in: udev (Ubuntu)
Milestone: None = ubuntu-9.10-beta

** Changed in: udev (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Scott James Remnant (scott)

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-16 Thread ilna
Scott, are there any workarounds for those with single-boot single
machine?

There are plenty of reports wrt the issue among bugs and forum threads.
Does such massive feedback guess a Low priority?

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[Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-16 Thread ilna
Just as another illustration the issue importance - say, /dev/dri/
devices are not created, and, as a result, drm is off.

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Re: [Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-16 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 15:37 +, ilna wrote:

 Scott, are there any workarounds for those with single-boot single
 machine?
 
You don't need a workaround for a warning message.

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Re: [Bug 430654] Re: udev 147 outputs warnings about default rules

2009-09-16 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 15:52 +, ilna wrote:

 Just as another illustration the issue importance - say, /dev/dri/
 devices are not created, and, as a result, drm is off.
 
That would be unrelated to these messages, and thus a different bug
which should be filed separately.

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