please reopen if the issue still exists in Ubuntu 12.04
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Ad hoc connection icon in the network menu is very
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@Vish
I'm not sure I understand your request for further comment?
The issue is that the icon displayed in the applet's menu doesn't do a
good job of conveying the fact that an available network is adhoc (
which means it's another computer providing the network as opposed to an
access point ).
Mat Tomaszewski , asac , mpt , could you comment on bgo?
Upstream wants to know why this has to be changed in network manager .
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@asac
Thanks for explaining. If this is the case, the current icon does a
particularly bad job in explaining it, when appearing in the menu.
Before I knew what ad-hoc connection was, all it said to me was this is
a preferred/better wireless connection, please use it. We haven't done
any user
it is not clear to me why you think its not a bug in humanity. Network
Manager uses the nm-device-adhoc.png icon. Thats a distinct icon and you
can improve it in humanity without touching NM.
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you can argue that NM should come up with a great icon for adhoc first
and then humanity can just make a similar icon, but as I said above,
upstream (and me) don't know a better icon, so please fix this in
humanity first and once you found a great solution we can adapt the same
approach on
OK, so my point is that the confusion comes from the fact that the
current icon does not represent a warning. The ad-hoc connection icon
itself may be good, but the fact that it appears alongside regular
wireless connection icon is confusing. So again, I don't necessarily
think we should change
*non-security risk
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* while the rest of the on-security risk connections dont need to
display the icon.
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Asac , The problem , is not the upstream icon or Humanity's icon. Though
i agree the present humanity's icon for the device can be improved.
[working on it right now.]
But the problem , is simply placing the device icon is not going to make
it clear for users. I suggest using a third icon in that
There also need to be tooltips , for each of the icons ,
- the signal strengths tootlips mentioning exact percentage
- adhoc Ad-hoc wireless device
- security risk icon Security risk... or even better working
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Whoa, let's hold it there :)
Just to be clear:
- definitely no third icon. We could either remove the ad-hoc icon entirely, or
replace it with a security warning icon
- definitely no tooltips. The icons should do the job, if they don't, they're
bad icons :)
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- definitely no third icon. We could either remove the ad-hoc icon
entirely, or replace it with a security warning icon
like i said here
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/humanity/+bug/438111/comments/12 i
dont think security risk is the only driving factor here. What the icon
should tell
one idea would be to mark normal APs as being a way to the internet
(maybe a globe?) ... while adhoc networks are usually a way to get to
some other machine or private network.
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Good point, I understand that. The issue is, this is extremely difficult to
convey with the icon. I'm not sure if globe would be a good solution, as in
some cases you will be able to connect to the internet via ad-hoc connection,
and, conversely, you won't be able to do so with the standard
Hmm... I like Mat's idea [or the OSX idea ;p ], no need for a second or
third icon. Just separate the list according to the connections.
So the Ad-hoc [Private run networks] could be the heading for these
connections... Or a better title.
I dont think there can be any good way to solve this
the separate section is an obvious approach, though showing it as
Computer to Computer would not fix the problem you mentioned above:
that some ad hocs are still good for internet, while some normal are
not.
Anyway. this is topic for karmic+1; if design team has interested in
defining where the
Alexander Sack wrote:
the separate section is an obvious approach, though showing it as
Computer to Computer would not fix the problem you mentioned above:
that some ad hocs are still good for internet, while some normal are
not.
Anyway. this is topic for karmic+1; if design team has
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Alexander, is there a way to tell, without connecting to each of them in
turn, which ad hocs are still good for internet [and which] are not?
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Asac believes the present icon is sufficient for ad-hoc device.
This bug is solved in Humanity.
Since the icon is for a device , we cannot add further warnings to the
ad-hoc icon since the icon might be used elsewhere in the app too.
It would be more ideal , if nm displayed another icon for
security risk is not the only property that should be expressed by ad-
hoc icon. The main purpose it should fulfil is to signal users that this
is something special, run by individuals (or special purpose devices)
and usually is not ment to be a path to access the internet.
So rather giving users
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It is not a bug in Humanity , If humanity does not assign the icon for
the ad-hoc , the hi-color icon will be displayed which simply shows a
monitor. Which would look even more weird , with an off palatte hi-color
icon.
But the nm-applet displaying the ad-hoc icon is surely confusing to an
Screenshot attached. The user could be led to think that this connection
is somehow preferred or even that the icon represents the *actual*
wireless connection itself (use of waves).
I personally did not understand what the icon meant when I first saw it.
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@mac_v
So really, we have two bugs here. The fact that the icon is displayed in
the first place, and the graphical treatment of the icon itself. The
latter is a bug in Humanity.
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ad-hoc networks are considered dangerous to some degree, so just
removing the hint that this is a different type of network isn't the
right solution - users must be able to identify that those networks are
not normal APs.
However, Its understood that the current icon isn't perfect. Suggestions
Hm , ok , i just did the present icon similar to the hi-color one , so
if there are any ideas for a better one that'd be nice..
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OK, so in this case we need an icon that would discourage from using
this network, rather than the opposite :)
@ asac
In what way are they dangerous?
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yes. the icon should express that you are connecting to a computer
rather than a stationary AP. You should never connect to such an AP
unless you know who set up that AP.
The increased risk is that i go to airport and setup adhoc and once
users go through me i can do all kind of nasty man in the
also functionally wise its not given that you can access the internet
through adhoc networks. so usually you dont want to use ad-hoc networks.
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Asac , Mat , I'v edited the icon with a warning overlay. I think this
would do without making user very scary of ad-hoc :)
Is this sufficient?
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