I have the same showings that Andreas has, with the brief textual login.
It's definitely still usable, but not as smooth as Fedora or (dare I say
it) Windows.
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Robbie Williamson: I create new bug for the trouble of my friend:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/474720. I just subcribed you to this
bug.
I'll create a new bug for my laptop as you explain to Tristan and Claus:
I encounter exactly the same bug as them.
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I still see the occasional textual login prompt between usplash and
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Tristan/Claus: can one of you open a separate bug for this issue? You
can simply type ubuntu-bug usplash in a terminal and it should do the
rest for you. Then subscribe me to it (LP ID is robbie.w).
** Changed in: ubuntu
Status: Confirmed = Fix Released
** Changed in: Ubuntu Karmic
The issues from the original reporter have been addressed. Anyone
seeing more messages should open a separate bug against usplash. I
would like to note that briefly seeing a login prompt between usplash
and xsplash, while a bit ugly, is unfortunately expected in Karmic. We
will be cleaning up
I think a problem I noticed today is related to this - I'd like to confirm
before making a new entry:
I've had 9.10 beta running long enough that today it booted with the routine
check of the filesystem.
This takes place while still at the black screen with the fuzzy Ubuntu logo
(which probably
I think Alan Pope filed a bug that sounds similar to what you've
described Sean. It's bug 457496
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this morning failed to turn it up!
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I've almost the same problem. Error message on screen.
Anyway even if it's seams to be OK, a professional OS should display such kind
of message !
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Hi,
I had these three on three machines I ran the Beta CD on:
* Starting init crypto disks... [ OK ]
* Starting early crypto disks... [ OK ]
* Starting remaining crypto disks [ OK ]
One of the machines (a notebook) booted without problems on the two
desktops the investigation is on going :-)
I would like to add a note about another message that is showing up
after the white ubuntu logo and the xsplash. I installed using a desktop
alternate CD with full encryption.
As expected I'm asked for the passphrase with the white ubuntu logo.
After that I see a black screen with the messages
Same here, and boot times are 50 seconds plus, when with jaunty it was
around 20 seconds.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Leandro leandromartine...@gmail.com
wrote:
By the way, the usplash on shutdown now, instead of the very simple and
elegant ubuntu
logo, it shows the ubuntu logo
Now, in desktop (I will post the apport-collect data in what follows), I get
the following messages
before xplash on boot:
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/dev/sda1: clean, 236191/1221600 files, 1992474/4883752 blocks
Well apport didn't send any data. Here is the dmesg:
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Its fixed for me after updates this morning, booting still feels a bit slow
and there are some glitches and flickering, otherwise its fine.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Leandro leandromartine...@gmail.com
wrote:
Well apport didn't send any data. Here is the dmesg:
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With the lastest updates this morning on Xubuntu I now get:
Grub loading - usplash - blank screen - xsplash - GDM
So I'll consider this fixed for me. Thanks to everyone involved in
fixing this!
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I haven't had a chance to update yet today, but if you're seeing USplash
and then XSplash in the same boot, shouldn't that be considered a bug?
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Same as Fabian for me in the desktop I just reported (I applied now the updates
from the main server, the
brazilian server was a little bit outdated).
The total boot time is 47 seconds in this desktop until GDM. (no
automatic login).
The blank screen takes a little too long, and in my case is
@Jeremy: No, since the alternative is ugly CLI messages at the moment...
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Exactly the same as Leandro for me in Kubuntu.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Fabian A. Scherschel
fa...@lamerk.orgwrote:
@Jeremy: No, since the alternative is ugly CLI messages at the moment...
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Everyone,
We've made some improvements. If you've done the console=tty6 or
USPLASH=y workarounds, please rever those. Then, do an 'sudo apt-get
update' and then 'sudo update-manager'. We are also working with the
kernel team to handle the kernel console chatter at boot.
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Confirmed; on my netbook now I just get flashing (VGA) cursor after
grub's menu has disappeared, then usplash, then a few seconds of
flashing cursor again (framebuffer) then xsplash. Not perfect, but
getting better... :-)
Total boot time from pressing return in the grub menu to the unr desktop
We may be able to shorten the time between usplash and xsplash. Given
current technology, we can't get it down to zero, so some flicker will
still be visible for now. The same goes for X-usplash on shutdown,
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On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 14:31 +, Rachel Greenham wrote:
Confirmed; on my netbook now I just get flashing (VGA) cursor after
grub's menu has disappeared, then usplash, then a few seconds of
flashing cursor again (framebuffer) then xsplash. Not perfect, but
getting better... :-)
Total boot
Perhaps you can just make the USplash a plain black screen so no one
notices it?
Original Message
Subject: [Bug 438335] Re: Boot messages show before xsplash kicks in
From: Colin Watson cjwat...@canonical.com
Date: Fri, October 09, 2009 10:52 am
To: jlacr...@itnewstoday.com
On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 15:05 +, Jeremy LaCroix wrote:
Perhaps you can just make the USplash a plain black screen so no one
notices it?
I thought about that, but I think the problem with that approach is that
for machines where it takes awhile for X to come up, users may think
their machine
Static Kubuntu/Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu logo with no animation then?
(Maybe even with please wait... on the bottom)
Original Message
Subject: RE: [Bug 438335] Re: Boot messages show before xsplash kicks
in
From: Robbie Williamson rob...@ubuntu.com
Date: Fri, October 09, 2009
pretty gracefully to the blue desktop...
Jeremy LaCroix wrote:
Static Kubuntu/Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu logo with no animation then?
(Maybe even with please wait... on the bottom)
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Subject: RE: [Bug 438335] Re: Boot messages show before xsplash kicks
I would consider this as a temporary solution for now. Once kernel-based
mode setting (KMS) is working for most cards, one should switch to kms
here. It provides the smoothest possible boot experience. Once the
video-mode is switched into the proper one directly after grub, there
won't be any
By the way, the usplash on shutdown now, instead of the very simple and
elegant ubuntu
logo, it shows the ubuntu logo surrounded by an horrible grey line, and with a
small grey
circle in the middle. I suppose this was added to differenciate it from the
boot ubuntu logo,
but it is uglier now.
Hm, the frustration from regressions in boot-experience introduced by
*me* on one of *my own installs* spilled over here. Sorry about that.
Anywho...
Reinstalled upstart and udev related packages:
udev, libudev0 (147~-5)
upstart (0.6.3-7)
upstart-udev-bridge respawning messages seem to have
I am seeing some usb messages and if my external hdd is connected some
messages for sdb. Please check the attached screenshot
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The expected behaviour is to see the small white ubuntu logo on boot or not?
I think there is a confusion here for the less technical people like me about
what
is Xplash and what is the small white ubuntu logo, and should we expect from
the boot
(appart from not seen text, of course). It
@Robbie in #13:
While adding console=tty6 to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT does indeed hide any
non-kernel messages, it also hides the emergency shell one gets if a manual
fsck is necessary. usplash leaves you on tty1 when it exits, but the emergency
shell is waiting for you on tty6.
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I get get messages about it, upstart-udev-bridge respawning, AES-NI not
being detected and padlock sha being missing.
I blacklisted padlock related stuff since I'm not using VIA-anything
which seemed to remove the message about the module being missing, but
the other two still show up. Ugly (and
@Robbie: Sure, no problem:
$ dpkg -l | grep couch
ii couchdb 0.10.0~svn818859-0ubuntu1
RESTful document oriented database, system D
ii couchdb-bin 0.10.0~svn818859-0ubuntu1
RESTful document oriented
Fresh install Karmic beta- updated for today.
Get the following boot messages:
Sdb assuming drive cache: write through
fsk (3x)
setting prelim keymap
starting AppArmour profiles
setting up console font
running DKMS auto install service for kernel
nvidia (185.18.36)
starting kernel Oops caching
I completely agree with what Adrian Glaubitz has posted on the dupe Bug
443282:
The text is just *ugly* and it's a huge step backwards compared to Jaunty IMHO
! That reminds me of my days with SuSE Linux 5.3 with kernel 2.0.38 and not the
current version of Ubuntu as of fall 2009. People will
see the errors that it display during the boot in the attached file
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@Robbie in #13: This is how boot looks on a Dell Latitude E6400 (TOSHIBA
MK1652GSX hdd):
Booting with usplash enabled:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y028WaypT_c
Bootchart:
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9678/tezrakarmic200910075.png
Booting with usplash enabled and console set to tty6:
Bah, wrong file for the first bootchart, it is actually this one:
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2641/tezrakarmic200910073.png
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The second one wasn't too bad.
Slightly unrelated question.. why are the boot times so high? Its pretty high
even for me.. around 1min +
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See bug 432089: performs poorly on slow HDD
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My HD isn't especially slow, but if that's the explanation, I guess I'll
buy it.
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@Claus: could you copy and paste the output of the following command:
dpkg -l | grep couch
dpkg -l | grep xulrunner
Your bootchart has some crazy stuff going on with couchdb and xulrunner.
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Ok, the shutdown graphic appears to be displaying now. I still see
several messages before xsplash shows up though.
I've attached a bootchart as of a couple a minutes ago with everything
up to date.
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After latest updates i still get these messages on the screen, they
appear ca. 15 seconds after grub-prompt. Grafix appear at about 7
seconds later, which means the screen is more or less black for about 27
seconds. The whole systems boots in about 1:05 minutes.
Please see attachement for
I'm experiencing this as well. I'm using Grub 1 (not a fresh install)..
After selecting the kernel to boot, the screen goes black for a few
seconds, then on to the above messages (fsck [clean] and a few others..
then finally xsplash). It does indeed seem like a regression from the
behavior in
@hewbert: FYI, you can convert to grub2 by running:
sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy
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@Robbie Williamson:
Thanks. Actually, I did convert to grub2 after posting, fwiw ;)
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I take back what I wrote in #23. It seems I was fooled by the big
variations in how long time the messages are shown (estimate 0.1-1.5
second).
Anyway, I have a fresh install which should mean grub2.
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With the latest package upgrades I no longer see the above messages on the
screen.
It would appear that the fix in #13 has been deployed, as I can find them on
one of the ttys (shift+alt+f?).
Anyway it is an improvement.
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I have made a clean install of the 9.10 beta on my Acer Aspire One 110L,
and I also get similar messages. They flash for 0.5 to 1 second, but in
combination with https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/413419 that also
flashed me, this is a bit too much overall blinking.
My messages transcribed from a
I also noticed this when usplash was removed. It is ugly and indeed a
regression from the usplah era but I didn't care... until fsck was
triggered.
With usplash we had progress status ans a skip option. Now we are back
to a cryptic text message without and a system which seems stuck as the
old
I also see the flash of terminal between desktop and shutdown
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I see similar messages and some more. Alpha-6 updated today to karmic-
beta (20091002). Output of vt1 is attached.
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I get similar, the most notable is starting and stopping firestarter
which occurs at boot and shutdown
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I think I have a quick fix for the NON-kernel related messages...but not
sure if it's the RIGHT fix:
1) sudo vi /etc/default/grub
2) Add console=tty6 to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT:
quiet splash console=tty6
3) save and quit
4) sudo update-grub
This will redirect console messages to tty6
Oh yeah, this is AMD64, and I also never see the white ubuntu logo on
shutdown.
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fsck from util-linux-ng 2.16
fsck from util-linux-ng 2.16
/dev/sda3: clean 279342/14712832 files, 29086625/58821989 blocks (check in 3
mounts)
/dev/sda6: clean 279342/14712832 files, 29086625/58821989 blocks (check in 3
mounts)
* Setting preliminary keymap...
* Starting AppArmour profiles
@sheldonross: With regard to the shutdown logo, what type of graphics
card do you have?
Also, could you install bootchart and send the .png file in
/var/log/bootchart after you reboot *twice* (the first reboot profiles
with sreadahead). That may help us see if there's something unexpected
Hi everybody,
I am using kubuntu 9.10 beta, and I have the same error messages at boot.
Usplash had been disabled I don't know why so I can't see kubuntu loading
progress bar.
I created the usplash config file in the initramfs to enable usplash, made the
new initram and rebooted my pc and saw
Hi, I'm getting this too, while running Karmic through VirtualBox. Will
try the tty redirection.
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The solution in #13 works well, though in my case a kernel message (I
think relating to the fact I'm running it inside VirtualBox), is still
showing just before xplash loads. Also, on shutdown, I still get a
flicker of messages before usplash takes over.
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Same problem here. I upgraded ubuntu from 9.04
Is it possible that the issues are related to grub. A fresh installation uses
grub2
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same issue, also with USB errors and whatnot
is there anything i can do just to have this fixed manually until the
bugfix is out through updates?
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@Sebastian: What do you mean by fixed? Fixing the error causing the message
or hiding the messages? People are welcome to enable usplash at boot by
running the following 3 commands:
sudo -i
echo USPLASH=y /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/usplash.conf
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@Arun: you can convert to grub2 by running: sudo upgrade-from-grub-
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** Package changed: upstart (Ubuntu Karmic) = Ubuntu Karmic
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** Tags removed: ubuntu-boot
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After usplash update of 29th September (0.5.39) I always see usplash (the new
white logo) when shutting down.
Just as it should be.
But as usplash has been disabled during boot, we of course see messages rolling.
Usplash used to hide them before.
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I can confirm this behaviour (installed alpha 6, and upgraded to current
package set on 9/27/09).
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Anything we can do here to get xsplash up faster? Or is this just an
issue of overly chatty system apps/daemons that we need to quiet
somehow?
** Changed in: upstart (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Medium
** Changed in: upstart (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Confirmed
** Changed in: upstart
Anything we can do here to get xsplash up faster? Or is this just an
issue of overly chatty system apps/daemons that we need to quiet
somehow?
** Also affects: upstart (Ubuntu Karmic)
Importance: Medium
Assignee: Scott James Remnant (scott)
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