This issue has sat incomplete for more than 60 days now. I'm going to
close it as invalid. Please feel free re-open if this is still an issue
for you. Thank you.
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I ran into this damn issue on a corporate PC that has Windows 7
Enterprise with Novell ZENworks installed on one partition.
I would like to thank Tabsc a lot for giving a hint to the solution
(#193)! However, I did not edit the registry directly but disabled the
ZENworks ISD service. Also, it was
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just Debian?
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This bug affects Ubuntu 10.10, Maverick Meerkat. Maverick has reached
end-of-life and is no longer supported, so I am closing the bug task for
Maverick. Please upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu.
More information here:
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This bug affects Ubuntu 10.10, Maverick Meerkat. Maverick has reached
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Hello
Here is a similar case due to the use of SolidWorks2010 : Bug #907283
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Hi Again,
I found an alternate solution to my problem: I simply disabled the ZISD
at startup. I found many post saying that it is not possible but it
seems it is (or at least this step resolved my booting problem). That is
why I take the liberty to write it here, although not directly related
to
Hi, i got the same problem:
- no grub problem by default but after a log in windows the computer start to
boot in a loop (computer reboots at the moment when grub should start);
- when installing grub I have the warning Sector 5 is already in use by ZISD;
avoiding it. This software may cause
Hey!
Bedankt voor je mail! Ik ben er even tussenuit geknepen naar een lekker
warm land! Ik beantwoord je mail na mijn vakantie (11 oktober).
Groetjes!
Ruben
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http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~cjwatson/blosxom/debian/2010-08-28
-windows-applications-making-grub2-unbootable.html to gather more data,
except rather than following up to this bug please file a *new* bug
report against grub2 in Ubuntu.
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Colin, just checking whether you can see the attachment to my post on
2011/07/25.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/441941/+attachment/2231448/+files/jbergh.tar.gz
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Recently installed Ubuntu 11.04 with grub-pc 1.99~rc1-13ubuntu3 in a
dual-boot with Windows, grub fails after running Windows.
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I add the same problem with someone computer. I used the cd disk to boot
the computer and backed up all the the picture and other personal
document . Then I installed the new version of Ubuntu with windows and
i add no more problem.
ps. other thing you may whant to look at is the configuration of
HP 6325, XP SP3 and 10.04.
Uninstalled: HP Backup and Recovery Manager Installer
Reinstalled GRUB as per griese's tips
No further problems.
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I have experienced the same issue with my Compaq 6715b.
I have XP SP3 and Ubuntu 10.10 on a single drive. When booting up the
GRUB appears OK. If I boot in to Unbuntu and then restart GRUB still
appears. As soon as I boot in to XP and restart GRUB is gone.
I can't say for sure what software is
I'm using an HP/Compaq nx 7300 laptop and something from windows
definitely seems to be messing up the GRUB2 procedure. I've attached
output from fdisk -lu, the diff of good and bad MBR, and the whole
output of MBR for good and bad. I understand the basics of what's going
on here, but I'm not
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I also have this bug on a Dell Vostro 1520, and already removed the Dell
Recovery Tool. However, next time I had this problem again.
Here are my dump output as asked in comment #4.
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I am enjoying this bug on my HP nc8430 laptop with ubuntu 10.10 and windows
XP pro.
I did restore with Ubuntu 10.10 Live USB-key.
I have not figured yet what windows software is causing this, I did some
updates to my Windows XP and this bug was my result.
I have attached output as asked in
Hello!
I am owner Dell Inspiron 1012. My basic OS Ubuntu netbook edition 10.04. The
second OS is preestablished Windows 7 Starter.
I too have a problem with this bug. I heard, that it is maybe connected with
the utility ' Dell Datasafe Local Backup '. I have removed ' Dell Datasafe
Attaching output as asked in colin's blog post
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I have an HP and suspect ProtectTools is corrupting grub 2 (see
attachment). Thank you for your effort on this, Colin.
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@Colin I had experienced this bug with the Beta. So, before installing
the RC (in the meantime I had to RMA my hard drive) I was able to take a
clean copy of my MBR. Attached is a tarball with three versions of the
first 63 sectors of my disk:
sda.0.beforeubuntu.clean:
- This is taken with the
What about giving grub its own dedicated partition and move it out of
the staging area?
Reserving only one track (aprox 63 sectors) should work.
Could also put grub in the staging area of an extended partition.
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@Colin : I hope you 'll find something interesting with my files.
Reading the comment #166 of Gogl make me remember that I have also
LoJack, but in my case it isn't activated. But it may be a service or
something like this which is launching at the set-up and that I didn't
recognize. I read a
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/TechnicalOverview recently
mentioned this bug in rev. 104.
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@Colin: Sorry, i didn't know the differences between burg and grub. To
your last comment: The only thing I did was installing burg with the
--alt option to /dev/sda, my only hard drive. Again, I don't know
exactly what it does, but it works. But I think, corresponding to your
previous comment that
@Colin : Hmmm the interessting thing is, that burg works great. I
compared the mbr with burg to the bad mbr with grub and it seems that
the changes to the mbr didn't influence burg. Whatever changes the mbr,
burg with the '--alt' option seems to be immune.
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BURG doesn't install to the MBR. This has an entirely different set of
problems, which I won't explain again here as I've done so before. We
won't be following its example, and we definitely won't be using BURG as
it has very little development effort on it compared to the GRUB project
from
This upload is now in maverick:
grub2 (1.98+20100804-5ubuntu2) maverick; urgency=low
* When embedding the core image in a post-MBR gap, check for and avoid
sectors matching any of a list of known signatures (mitigates LP
#441941; more work may be required).
-- Colin Watson
Gogl: anyway, no matter what burg does it can't possibly recover from
its *boot sector* being overwritten, which is what your logs show;
that's like removing its brain! I suspect that you have not told me the
full story here; perhaps you have installed some other MBR program to
the boot sector,
Marko: Great, that's as expected so far, thanks. (In a future version
of GRUB, it will be able to tolerate one sector being overwritten using
an error-correcting code; for now, all I'm trying to get to is that you
can at least reinstall GRUB afterwards and it won't be broken again.)
mavosaure:
@Colin : Sorry for my mistake. This one is the good one!
I tried to recover/re-install GRUB by using chroot instead of simple
recover but I didn't receive any special message.
** Attachment added: maverick.tar.bz2
@Colin Watson : you'll find requested files for multiple GRUB's breaks
due to Windows software.
@Marko Vertainen : your experience is interesting! How did you proceed?
something as described on this page?
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD
Thxs
** Attachment
Using Ubuntu 10.10 beta on a Dell laptop. Grub2 doesn't break every time
i boot Win7. I think the reason for me is LoJack. When I start a test
call, grub breaks and the boot process results in an infinite loop. I'm
going to try burg and see if it still breaks.
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@mavosaure. I used excactly that wiki page to recover grub installation.
I set ppa's distribution to maverick even though I'm using lucid on that
laptop, because there wasn't new grub package made for lucid. No
problems so far.
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I upgraded grub from the mentioned ppa to my Lucid installation. After
upgrade was finished I rebooted and went to Windows 7, and started Adobe
Photoshop. After reboot, grub2 was still missing. I rebooted from the
live CD and restored grub installation (in chroot), and got following
message after
Bad news!
I just tried your packages (@Colin Watson) but after rebooting on Seven,
it fails again. (I setted up Maverick on an another partition of the
same disk).
You'll find the requested files here.
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I've replied to mavosaure in bug 551721. The failure is specific to
this case, and other people with the same problem should still give my
packages a try.
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grub-pc packages from this PPA:
https://launchpad.net/~cjwatson/+archive/ppa
... and try rebooting into Windows to see if that still makes GRUB
unbootable? Hopefully it won't.
If it still breaks, then there are two
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mavosaure: Thanks. Regarding possible duplicates: I think I'll keep
them separate because otherwise this bug is going to get VERY long as
reports about application after application come in.
zhou...@hotmail.com: Please provide the information requested in comment
4 for these applications. I'm
I found the following applications could fire this bug also:
UtraISO,Adobe Flash Builder 4
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As reported in bug #551721, I experimented this bug since the 20th of august on
my Dell Studio 1558 laptop, just after a Dell update when I was using Windows
Seven. But the little difference is the error message. (Each time I recover
GRUB using the same method, with a the lucid live USB) Most
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I can confirm that by removing Dell Datasafe Local Backup fixed the
issue for me. I'm on a Dell Inspiron 15R with Windows 7 Home Basic and
Ubuntu Lucid Lynx 10.04.1. I'm going to report this to Dell. Cheers!
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Attachment 'Output from fdisk -lu, MBR files and diff running Adobe CS4'
includes files described in comment #4.
This happens when running any of the Adobe CS4 applications in Asus U1F
notebook. I'm having triple boot between Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, Windows 7 Pro
and Meego 1.0 and I'm using grub2. When
One probably-not-as-easy-as-it-sounds idea:
Have grub installer compute suitable error correction codes of the embedding
area and save them somewhere there (after the core image, say). When Windows
next time trashes it, when reinstalling Grub the installer could use the codes
to determine
The problem appears after boot on Windows XP, infinite loop after bios boot.
This seems to be a related to Novell ZISD (see mbr_bad) : this is a corporate
computer an there is a Novell Client installed on it.
I have already installed Fedora 13 on the same computer, with the same disk
AutoCAD 2009 or its licensing service is also corrupt GRUB loader.
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On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 06:44:38AM -, Alexey Osipov wrote:
AutoCAD 2009 or its licensing service is also corrupt GRUB loader.
Please provide the information requested in comment 4.
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@Colin, is this attempt of yours - to run after that misbehaving
application developers - really a clean solution. Wouldn't it be great
to have an additional feature for all boot capeable Linux filesystems:
- keep the first 32Kib empty and reserved for grub if there is an
additional flag (boot)
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 02:21:17PM -, Ralph Ulrich wrote:
@Colin, is this attempt of yours - to run after that misbehaving
application developers - really a clean solution.
I've been thinking (well, mostly despairing) about this bug for nearly a
year now, on and off. I haven't done
for me it's 2e00..2ff0 being modified.
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One approach to a solution is to make the code written to MBR as small
as possible. Is Windows writing a boot loader to the MBR? Then make
Grub2 code write to the same area exactly.
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I had this happen to me - see my comments with attachments (#31 and 32)
in Bug #26058
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It would be very helpful to me if people affected by this bug could
follow the directions from Felix Zielcke in comment 4, and attach the
results here. This is much more useful than describing your hardware or
explaining again how serious the bug is! :-)
The one person to provide this
0x4A00 to 0x4BFF is sector 37.
http://www.woodmann.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-7462.html indicates
(though I don't see hex dumps to confirm) that Adobe's Flexnet writes to
sector 32. So at that level, there are definitely multiple pieces of
software at work in different ways.)
Dear application
I have first-draft code to detect signatures of particular programs in
the post-MBR gap and avoid the relevant sectors when writing the GRUB
core image. I'd like to inspect some data dumps first to confirm that
this strategy will be viable, and of course gathering the signatures
will probably be
Grub2 problem with Adobe Software
This problem is more widely spread than HP recovery software or Dell.
I have been having the same symptoms trying to install Adobe software
on a dual boot system. I am currently running Lucid with Grub2 and
Windows XP. I believe the problem actually occurred
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Importance: High
Status: Confirmed
** Also affects: grub2 (Ubuntu Lucid)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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This problem also exists with Grub legacy.
I had the issue with Grub 2 on my Dell Vostro1300 laptop. Recovery instructions
on grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide worked very well (thanks a million to
the author, I really appreciate this!). However it was just not feasible to
reinstall grub
Did you use the --alt option when installing to MBR:
http://syndofyouths.wordpress.com/2010/04/12/the-boot-loader-problem-in-
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** Tags added: amd64
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You're welcome, amy!
I believe that this bug is EXTREMELY important. It should be fixed as
fast as possible.
There is no way to leave a system unbootable and hope that the regular
users will come back and try Ubuntu again some sunny day. Even stay with
Linux at all (when the best desktop Linux
EDIT:
* (when the best desktop-oriented Linux distro corrupts your computer and makes
it completely unusable)
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Well, this one's real bad. I'm running Lucid and WinXP Home on an Acer
Aspire One D250. It doesn't matter if I use GRUB2 or BURG (which is
based on GRUB2, as we know), anytime I boot windows, it corrupts my
bootloader and I get this bug rearing it's ugly head. As far as I can
tell, there is
For those that are still affected by this problem, you can solve it with
burg:
Install instruction for ubuntu:
http://code.google.com/p/burg/wiki/InstallUbuntu
The trick is to use --alt option when installing to mbr:
http://code.google.com/p/burg/wiki/Troubleshooting
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Here is a quick guide to do so:
http://syndofyouths.wordpress.com/2010/04/12/the-boot-loader-problem-in-
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Setting High as this results in being unable to use the affected pc at
all.
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just tried burg.. again the liveCD...
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oh sorry i didn't noticed the alt option.. it worked for me, thanx
@Miro..
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this thing drives me crazy.. every reboot fro windows requires a liveCD
re-installation of grub2 :@ thats pretty silly...
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Assignee: (unassigned) = Ahmed Mohammed Yassin (a7mdyassin)
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Assignee: Ahmed Mohammed Yassin (a7mdyassin) = (unassigned)
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would be Dell DataSafe Local Backup, as per this bug:
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in my computer i do not boot to windows. there are 2 hard disks. grub2 checks
both disks long time, doing much moving inside hdds, and hdd led lights that
time.
in another computer hdd led does not light but grub2 loads 1 minute, during
that time only a text cursor, underline, at left top
i said in another computer hdd led does not light - no, it also
lights.
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on that second computer behavior is same after bootrec /fixmbr of
windows 7!
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Sorry for adding one more comment (there is no edit option in
Launchpad) but the guide in my blog is now hosted here:
http://syndofyouths.wordpress.com/2010/04/12/i-want-to-address-the-boot-
loader-problem-in-ubuntu-9-10/
Kind regards,
Miro Hadzhiev
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I highly recommend to everybody to install BURG and to overwrite GRUB2
installation.
The bug DOES NOT occur in BURG (which is a re-write of GRUB2). This is the
how-to:
http://code.google.com/p/burg/wiki/InstallUbuntu
Kind regards,
Miro Hadzhiev
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But you should use this line instead (when installing BURG to the MBR of
your system):
sudo burg-install --alt (hd0)
I wrote a simple guide in my blog which resembles the aforesaid how-to:
http://syndofyouths.blogspot.com/2010/04/off-topic-i-want-to-address-boot-loader.html
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I'm frustrated that this hasn't been given a high level of importance.
I'm running Mint 8 on a Dell Vostro 1720. I'm running Win 7 Enterprise
32-bit. It is a clean install on a formatted drive...no Dell software,
no installed services, and my antivirus is NOD32. This happens on every
boot of
Dell Vostro 1720 - Vista/Ubuntu 9.10
Been having this problem too for a while and it always happened on Sunday
somewhere between 12-17h.
If Vista was on during those hours, I was 100% sure I would have to repair GRUB.
It would just stay on grub loading for a couple of seconds and reboot.
All the
Sorry, seemed to linked to a wrong comment in my previous message. I
meant
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/441941/comments/116.
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Thanks Miro! I run to subscribe to the new bug address! :)
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I have a new Dell Studio 1558: the problem persists.
I installed Lynx beta 1 and very very very often Windows works on the MBR
corrupting Grub2 files (maybe the OS thinks that Grub2 is something like a
rootkit).
Someone refers that by recurring to the downgrade to Grub-Legacy the problem
won't
I've already done that.
This is it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/551721
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I see no activity after my last message.
Is it a good idea to file a new bug report for Lucid Beta1 (though the problem
is similar here)?
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grub fails after running Windows
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/441941
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Maybe the same problem in in Lucid Beta1. After booting Windows my
system again was left with useless MBR.
The system message this time is not GRUB LOADING as it is in Karmic but
no module name found
Aborted. Press any key to exit.
After hitting Enter the message: Non-system disk or disk error
I see a variety of hardware listed here and a few mentions of Dell
Vostros. I'm using a Vostro 1520 dualbooting Win7/Ub 9.10 and was
experiencing this MBR problem as well as some erratic behavior in
Windows 7 (intermittent keyboard and mouse drivers not loading, display
drivers not loading, the
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