[Bug 521672] Re: Startup in Karmic with unclean filesystems leaves system in a wrong state

2010-04-16 Thread Scott James Remnant
From the bug description, this sounds like an issue with the karmic
mountall where it would continue when it shouldn't - this has been fixed
in Lucid

** Changed in: mountall (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Fix Released

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[Bug 521672] Re: Startup in Karmic with unclean filesystems leaves system in a wrong state

2010-04-12 Thread Martin Rehn
Is this behavior really by design? If so, it is a very bad one. By
default, the system should wait until all file systems are available
before letting the user log in. Otherwise, the user can suffer data loss
as follows:

1) Boot with unmounted file systems. The mount points will look like empty 
directories.
2) The user logs in.
3) Program X starts up and finds that expected data Y is missing.
4) Program X proceeds to perform cleanup or initialization based on data Y 
having disappeared.

Data loss has now already occurred in the case when program X writes to
a different file system than where Y is located. For instance, if the
home directory was mounted, but not the file system that contains my
digital photos, a photo manager will now clear out metadata about the
supposedly deleted pictures from its database. Some programs will ask
the user first about this, but as is well known the user always answers
yes.

Otherwise:

5) The missing file system is mounted.
6) Program X keeps writing a clean slate of data in the location of Y, 
oblivious to the fact that it is now overwriting the real data, which has 
suddenly reappeared.

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[Bug 521672] Re: Startup in Karmic with unclean filesystems leaves system in a wrong state

2010-02-17 Thread Sven Boden

If I drop to the shell I can let the fsck finish and start the X environment 
manually (just as a work around).

If I don't do anything I can login via the GUI, but since my home directory is 
not ready by then I just get an empty desktop and a warning dialog like 
cannot access home directory, taking / as default. After which the session is 
pretty unusable of course, default installation is that most of the desktop is 
in the home directory. 
I also do not get an indication on the login screen that something is not ok 
(that something is still running in the background)

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[Bug 521672] Re: Startup in Karmic with unclean filesystems leaves system in a wrong state

2010-02-16 Thread Gabe Gorelick
Why is dropping to a shell a good solution? Doesn't the fsck eventually
finish and then you can access your separate partition? It seems much
better to give the user a fast boot and most of their desktop (sans
corrupted home directory) than to just give them a shell with no home
directory.

** Package changed: ubuntu = mountall (Ubuntu)

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