[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2020-07-22 Thread Haw Loeung
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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-07-30 Thread god
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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-07-30 Thread god
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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-07-29 Thread god
  I'm not a systemd hater

Don't flatter yourself. Since when exactly inability of some users to
run sudo apt install ntpdate equals to systemd hegemony?

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-07-29 Thread god
  I'm not a systemd hater

Don't flatter yourself. Since when exactly inability of some users to
run sudo apt install ntpdate equals to systemd hegemony?

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-07-29 Thread Rolf Leggewie
@god, be nice, apply logic and be productive or go home. It appears you
have some deficiency to understand what I wrote and didn't write.

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-07-29 Thread Rolf Leggewie
@god, be nice, apply logic and be productive or go home. It appears you
have some deficiency to understand what I wrote and didn't write.

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-07-27 Thread Bryan Quigley
The other bug was closed and now it's just systemd-timesyncd in minimal.

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-07-27 Thread Bryan Quigley
The other bug was closed and now it's just systemd-timesyncd in minimal.

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-07-27 Thread Rolf Leggewie
Not a good development in my opinion since it ties everyone more and
more firmly to the systemd hegemony.  I'm not a systemd hater but I
don't think this is a good direction. Nonetheless, I guess it's better
than what we currently have which is unmaintained code.

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-07-27 Thread Rolf Leggewie
Not a good development in my opinion since it ties everyone more and
more firmly to the systemd hegemony.  I'm not a systemd hater but I
don't think this is a good direction. Nonetheless, I guess it's better
than what we currently have which is unmaintained code.

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-06-04 Thread god
Yes, I thought it would be more clear cause I can't change the title of
this bug. Once the patch is applied and updated meta-packages pushed
both bugs could be safely closed.

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-06-04 Thread god
Yes, I thought it would be more clear cause I can't change the title of
this bug. Once the patch is applied and updated meta-packages pushed
both bugs could be safely closed.

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-05-07 Thread Bryan Quigley
@god that was what was done according to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihVibT0Lm0I, and I see you opened a new
bug for it here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-
meta/+bug/1451247

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-05-07 Thread Bryan Quigley
@god that was what was done according to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihVibT0Lm0I, and I see you opened a new
bug for it here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-
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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-05-03 Thread god
It would be much better to replace it with systemd-timesyncd calls and
drop ntpdate dependency altogether.

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-05-03 Thread god
It would be much better to replace it with systemd-timesyncd calls and
drop ntpdate dependency altogether.

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-04-23 Thread Robie Basak
** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
Milestone: ubuntu-15.02 = None

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-04-23 Thread Robie Basak
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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-04-19 Thread Ben Shadwick
@aquina:

ntpd doesn't have to be shipped with a configuration that will launch it
as a daemon. It can easily be used to do ntpdate's job without
daemonizing.

Also, the ntpd binary is actually only around 2/3 the size of the
ntpdate binary, so I think you may be backwards on which one is bloated.

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-04-19 Thread Bug Watch Updater
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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-04-19 Thread Bug Watch Updater
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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-04-19 Thread Ben Shadwick
@aquina:

ntpd doesn't have to be shipped with a configuration that will launch it
as a daemon. It can easily be used to do ntpdate's job without
daemonizing.

Also, the ntpd binary is actually only around 2/3 the size of the
ntpdate binary, so I think you may be backwards on which one is bloated.

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-04-19 Thread A. Denton
Quote by r0lf: The NTP code has seen numerous security vulnerabilities
and we have to assume that ntpdate is not receiving the same scrutiny
anymore when compared to NTPd.

Sorry r0lf, but that's laughable. Do you really want people to run a
fully featured (your wording: vulnerable) NTP daemon just to do s.th.
like this (ntpdate -u HOSTNAME /var/log/messages 21) one a day
within a /etc/cron.hourly/ntp?

Don't get me wrong -- I agree with you on the upstream-part of your
statement, but I disagree when it comes to bloat systems unnecessarily.
Once OS used to be simple, only containing things which their operators
needed. Why force them into running daemons the don't really have demand
for? I think ntpd -qg is the only option, although far from perfect.

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-04-19 Thread A. Denton
Quote by r0lf: The NTP code has seen numerous security vulnerabilities
and we have to assume that ntpdate is not receiving the same scrutiny
anymore when compared to NTPd.

Sorry r0lf, but that's laughable. Do you really want people to run a
fully featured (your wording: vulnerable) NTP daemon just to do s.th.
like this (ntpdate -u HOSTNAME /var/log/messages 21) one a day
within a /etc/cron.hourly/ntp?

Don't get me wrong -- I agree with you on the upstream-part of your
statement, but I disagree when it comes to bloat systems unnecessarily.
Once OS used to be simple, only containing things which their operators
needed. Why force them into running daemons the don't really have demand
for? I think ntpd -qg is the only option, although far from perfect.

https://twitter.com/TRONDELTA/status/546138511284658177

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-04-18 Thread Mathew Hodson
** Also affects: ntp (Debian) via
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=514318
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

** Changed in: ntp
   Importance: Unknown = Undecided

** Changed in: ntp
 Remote watch: Debian Bug tracker #514318 = None

** Changed in: ntp
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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-04-18 Thread Rolf Leggewie
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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-04-18 Thread Rolf Leggewie
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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-02-12 Thread Rolf Leggewie
https://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/DeprecatingNtpdate has some further
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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-02-12 Thread Rolf Leggewie
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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-02-12 Thread Rolf Leggewie
I think going forward with this ticket instead of the much older bug
61619 is preferable.

ntpdate has been deprecated upstream for a long time as previously
pointed out. The NTP code has seen numerous security vulnerabilities and
we have to assume that ntpdate is not receiving the same scrutiny
anymore when compared to ntpd.

Setting milestone for vivid, hoping that it is not too late, yet.

** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
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** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-02-12 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

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2015-02-12 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-02-12 Thread Rolf Leggewie
this is not a bug in ntp (unless one were to advocate to replace the
ntpdate command with a wrapper calling ntp which I believe no one is
doing).  Closing the ntp task.

** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Invalid

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-02-12 Thread Rolf Leggewie
this is not a bug in ntp (unless one were to advocate to replace the
ntpdate command with a wrapper calling ntp which I believe no one is
doing).  Closing the ntp task.

** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Invalid

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-02-12 Thread Rolf Leggewie
I think going forward with this ticket instead of the much older bug
61619 is preferable.

ntpdate has been deprecated upstream for a long time as previously
pointed out. The NTP code has seen numerous security vulnerabilities and
we have to assume that ntpdate is not receiving the same scrutiny
anymore when compared to ntpd.

Setting milestone for vivid, hoping that it is not too late, yet.

** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Triaged

** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
Milestone: None = ubuntu-15.02

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2015-02-12 Thread Ben Shadwick
Rofl, thanks for looking into the situation and reversing course on this
bug.

I've can confirm what you've seen about ntpdate being deprecated and
ntpd recently receiving critical vulnerability fixes.

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2014-07-11 Thread Ben Shadwick
Adding ubuntu-meta because ntpdate lists it as a dependency, when ntpd
should be allowed as an alternative.

** Also affects: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2014-07-11 Thread Ben Shadwick
Oops, I meant it the other way around: ubuntu-minimal lists ntpdate as a
dependency, such that ubuntu-minimal is uninstalled if you try to
replace ntpdate with ntpd.

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2014-07-11 Thread Ben Shadwick
Adding ubuntu-meta because ntpdate lists it as a dependency, when ntpd
should be allowed as an alternative.

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   Status: New

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2014-07-11 Thread Ben Shadwick
Oops, I meant it the other way around: ubuntu-minimal lists ntpdate as a
dependency, such that ubuntu-minimal is uninstalled if you try to
replace ntpdate with ntpd.

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2010-05-24 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
See also bug 322518. I think we want to get rid of ntpdate, and use ntpd
everywhere, which would be more consistent.

** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Triaged

** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Low

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2010-05-24 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
See also bug 322518. I think we want to get rid of ntpdate, and use ntpd
everywhere, which would be more consistent.

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** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2010-05-21 Thread C de-Avillez
** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #514318
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=514318

** Also affects: ntp via
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   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2010-05-21 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: ntp
   Status: Unknown = New

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[Bug 583994] Re: Consider replacing ntpdate calls by 'ntpd -g'

2010-05-21 Thread C de-Avillez
** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #514318
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=514318

** Also affects: ntp via
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   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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2010-05-21 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: ntp
   Status: Unknown = New

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