[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-25 Thread Sebastien Bacher
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 17294 *** I'm not sure that closed duplicate bug is the best place to talk about that, maybe you could mail the artwork list about that? -- GTK default icons used in several places https://launchpad.net/bugs/60424 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-23 Thread David Prieto
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 17294 *** I found this bug where OK/cancel icons were proposed: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/tangerine-icon- theme/+bug/40607 And these are the icons: http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/tango/okncancel.tar.gz Surely the proposed red

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-22 Thread Daniel Holbach
human-icon-theme (0.3-0ubuntu1) edgy; urgency=low * New upstream release: - added icons. - add gtk-apply and gtk-ok (fixes part of Malone: #60424) - added Eject icon (Malone: #59662) - reload icon in 24x24 (Malone: #47268) -- Daniel Holbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri, 22 Sep 2006

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-22 Thread Emmanuel Touzery
so tango and tangerine will still show the ugly-looking icons? :-( -- GTK default icons used in several places https://launchpad.net/bugs/60424 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-22 Thread Daniel Holbach
I only marked human-icon-theme as fix released. That's something the maintainers of those packages have to decide. -- GTK default icons used in several places https://launchpad.net/bugs/60424 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-22 Thread Ernst Persson
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 17294 *** ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 17294 The Apply-icon used in for example Synpatic an Liferea is low quality -- GTK default icons used in several places https://launchpad.net/bugs/60424 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-22 Thread David Prieto
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 17294 *** Guess we should file some bugs on tango and tangerine, right? -- GTK default icons used in several places https://launchpad.net/bugs/60424 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-22 Thread David Prieto
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 17294 *** ** Also affects: tangerine-icon-theme (Ubuntu) Importance: Untriaged Status: Unconfirmed ** Also affects: tango-icon-theme (Ubuntu) Importance: Untriaged Status: Unconfirmed -- GTK default icons used in several places

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-18 Thread David Prieto
Additionally, If the problem is only with the OK and cancel buttons, why has the tick icon been removed too? I mean, why does the liferea menu have to look this bad? http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8201/pantallazolifereatq6.png -- GTK default icons used in several places

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-18 Thread Andreas Nilsson
mpt: ok, I trust you on this. David: they were removed because they don't really belong in that package and I was unsure about the metaphors. Hopefully the iconfactory- dude will fix these in human-icon-theme, as they seem to be priority 10 in http://daniel.holba.ch/ubuntu/ic . I want to keep

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-17 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Moving this to human-icon-theme, as the reporter used that theme and because human is the default. ** Changed in: tango-icon-theme-common (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: tango-icon-theme-common = human-icon-theme -- GTK default icons used in several places https://launchpad.net/bugs/60424 --

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-17 Thread David Prieto
Should we file similar bugs for tango-icon-theme and tangerine-icon- theme then? I don't use human anyway, so it wouldn't be of much use to me having this fixed in human. -- GTK default icons used in several places https://launchpad.net/bugs/60424 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-17 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
Hang on, the premise is wrong here. The HIGs can be a bit confusing in some places, but nowhere do they say that OK and Cancel should be abolished! It's true that OK should be replaced by more informative text, if possible, in dialogs and in confirmation alerts. But OK *must* be the text of the

[Bug 60424] Re: [Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-16 Thread Mika Fischer
Andreas Nilsson schrieb: Actually it was inconsistent before as well, as Ubuntu use the Human icon set by default and Human don't have these icons, so it used to fall back on the icons provided by tango-common. That may well be. But for the artwork layman such as me that did not stand out in

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-15 Thread Andreas Nilsson
We decided to remove the dialog-* since we had to many complains about them, especially the dialog-cancel icon. I put them in tango-common because I was curious about the effect of these somewhat unorthodox metaphors, but they were not really popular. I hope these actions can be placed in

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-15 Thread towolf
I agree, but it will probably never happen that all apps finally conform to what the HIG recommends about buttons. The other point is that the icons transport a sense of benign-ness of the actions and facilitate the decision of the user when he is presented a binary choice, for example. So,

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-15 Thread towolf
As an addendum: What I proposed is similar to the strategy currently implemented for MIME-types. There’s a generic image MIME-type icon that subsumes all sub-types of images until all those myriads of image types can be provides by special icons. I propose to add a generic do action icon that

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-15 Thread Andreas Nilsson
I agree that it's a bit silly to belive that every app is going to conform to the HIG about button labeling, but I think our approach should be to try to clean them out where we can. I'm going to file a bug against gnome-app-install right away. Anyone want to help tracking it down in other

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-15 Thread towolf
Fair enough, really. Just one point about the default action. In many GTK themes the style for the default button is not really salient (check Clearlooks to see; it is salient in the Human theme, though). An affirmative/negative icon would help the user click one button, IMO. -- GTK default

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-15 Thread Mika Fischer
These are all valid points. What I care about is what the final release will look like. I think after all the effort that's being put into the artwork to provide a consistent-looking release, it would really ruin the whole thing if edgy were to ship with those ugly icons. I mean the OK-icon

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-15 Thread David Prieto
These are all valid points. What I care about is what the final release will look like. I think after all the effort that's being put into the artwork to provide a consistent-looking release, it would really ruin the whole thing if edgy were to ship with those ugly icons. I agree 100%. I'm not

[Bug 60424] Re: [Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-15 Thread towolf
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:26:12 +0200, Mika Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also really don't think that forcing ugly icons on people is the right way to get them to change their dialogs. That will take a long time and might not even be possible at all. For instance all my wxWidgets apps

[Bug 60424] Re: [Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-15 Thread Mika Fischer
towolf wrote: I also really don't think that forcing ugly icons on people is the right way to get them to change their dialogs. That’s exactly the line of thought, unfortunately. This is what Rodney, the g-i-t and icon-naming-utils maintainer said about the issue: [cut] Also, the

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-15 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Actually it was inconsistent before as well, as Ubuntu use the Human icon set by default and Human don't have these icons, so it used to fall back on the icons provided by tango-common. -- GTK default icons used in several places https://launchpad.net/bugs/60424 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-14 Thread Mika Fischer
** Attachment added: Screenshot showing the problem http://librarian.launchpad.net/4272053/gtk-default-buttons.jpg -- GTK default icons used in several places https://launchpad.net/bugs/60424 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-14 Thread Daniel Holbach
Right, there were icons in tango-common, which were removed, because Andreas was not happy with them, I subscribe him again, so we can get his input on it. ** Changed in: tango-icon-theme-common (Ubuntu) Importance: Untriaged = Wishlist Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed -- GTK default

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-14 Thread towolf
I think Andreas once had a nice non-official gtk-apply checkmark that was curved somehow. It would be good if one of the three main Tango/g-i-t contributors would whip something up for the remaining stock/gtk-* icons. After all those are shown on almost every dialog window. The ones that were

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-14 Thread David Prieto
Please put those icons back at least until you come up with something better, the current ones make the Child Jesus cry. http://www.imageshack.us/ Seriously, you think that's acceptable? Please give me a break! -- GTK default icons used in several places https://launchpad.net/bugs/60424 --

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-14 Thread David Prieto
Sorry, I didn't post the image to compare: http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/839/pantallazopreferenciaswk9.png -- GTK default icons used in several places https://launchpad.net/bugs/60424 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

[Bug 60424] Re: GTK default icons used in several places

2006-09-14 Thread Jacob Peddicord
Yes, we definitely need them back. My eyes are about ready to burn out from the old icons. -- GTK default icons used in several places https://launchpad.net/bugs/60424 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs