[Bug 69938] Re: Fluxbox background disappears on certain events

2014-08-03 Thread Mathias Gumz
this is not a bug, this is what happens when you have a programm
spanning the whole desktop at a layer beneath most regular windows.
think about it as having firefox or chrome running in fullscreen-mode
below your xterm: what happens if you right-click in the area of where
chrome draws its pixels? right, you open the right-click menu of chrome.
again: not a bug (in fluxbox), it's just another window covering the
rootwindow completely.

regarding nautilus: http://superuser.com/questions/738011/nautilus-
changes-my-fluxbox-experience-how-can-i-bring-the-original-configurati

$ nautilus --no-desktop

ticket can be closed from my point of view (fluxbox maintainer)

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[Bug 69938] Re: Fluxbox background disappears on certain events

2014-08-03 Thread pwaring
I'm sorry, but I disagree - this *is* a bug, it involves unexpected
behaviour when running an application. That's either a bug with Fluxbox,
the application, or the interaction between the two.

However, if the fix is to pass extra arguments to the Nautilus command,
perhaps a simple way to close this bug would be to patch the file:
/etc/X11/fluxbox/fluxbox-menu, or the script which generates it? If that
was done, users would never come across the bug, which is a much better
experience than being pointed to a site where the solution is 'run the
nautilus command manually with some arguments, create a shell script or
patch Nautilus', none of which are particularly helpful to a new user.

I'm happy to submit a patch which does this, although it might take me a
week or two to work through the necessary bits of Fluxbox.

(As an aside, the Chrome argument doesn't really address this problem,
as I can leave Chrome in full screen mode and get back to the desktop as
it was. I cannot do that by quitting Nautilus, unless I run 'killall
nautilus', and even then the background image does not return to
normal.)

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[Bug 69938] Re: Fluxbox background disappears on certain events

2014-08-03 Thread Mathias Gumz
the chrome-argument addresses the problem completely: you have a window
completely covering all of the available space. any event on any poin
there is handled by the app covering that area. let it be chrome,
nautilus or wine (which creates a virtual desktop and thus spanning
the whole area): the app covering that area receives the events. if you
as the user spawn apps which spawn the whole area: what can fluxbox do
about it? maximize a regular xterm, put it onto the bottom-layer and the
same effect you have with nautilus happens: your clicks are handled by
xterm, not fluxbox. if you want to fluxbox' root-menu to popup anywhere
you click: bind the RootMenu action to whatever key-mouse-combo you like
the most which is not handled by any app that might run at the position
you trigger the event.

if you quit nautilus and still have nautilus running and covering that
area you have not quitted it correctly or completely, it's just that
easy.  and thus your counter-argument against the chrome-argument is
just that: incomplete.

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[Bug 69938] Re: Fluxbox background disappears on certain events

2014-08-03 Thread pwaring
The Chrome argument does not address the problem that if I launch
Nautilus from the menu then I can no longer access the menu, even if I
quit Nautilus using the standard cross icon in the top right corner of
the window. Plus, even if I kill all the Nautilus processes, the
background image has still changed.

As I said, that may be a bug with Nautilus instead of Fluxbox, but
either way it breaks functionality and changes the user interface. I
can't see how that is anything other than a bug. Yes there are
workarounds like binding the RootMenu action or passing extra arguments
to Nautilus, but these things should not happen in the first place,
especially when the fix is to change how the menu is generated.

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Re: [Bug 69938] Re: Fluxbox background disappears on certain events

2014-08-03 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Use --no-background if you don't want it writing the background. Turns out
using a GNOME component outside GNOME leads to undefined behavior
On Aug 3, 2014 7:15 AM, pwaring launch...@pwaring.com wrote:

 The Chrome argument does not address the problem that if I launch
 Nautilus from the menu then I can no longer access the menu, even if I
 quit Nautilus using the standard cross icon in the top right corner of
 the window. Plus, even if I kill all the Nautilus processes, the
 background image has still changed.

 As I said, that may be a bug with Nautilus instead of Fluxbox, but
 either way it breaks functionality and changes the user interface. I
 can't see how that is anything other than a bug. Yes there are
 workarounds like binding the RootMenu action or passing extra arguments
 to Nautilus, but these things should not happen in the first place,
 especially when the fix is to change how the menu is generated.

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 Status in Fluxbox Window Manager:
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 Status in “fluxbox” package in Ubuntu:
   Confirmed

 Bug description:
   I have a script that randomly selects a wallpaper from my art folder
   and than uses the command fbsetbg to set it as my background. This
   script is in my ~/.fluxbox/startup file.

   The script runs fine and displays the wallpaper after I login. I
   noticed, however, when I run certain programs (WINE in particular) the
   fluxbox background just disappears, and goes back to a plain gray. I
   am fairly certain the problem is not with the script or the entry on
   my startup file, but I am providing them below anyway.

   Here is my startup file:

   wallpaper.sh
   gaim 
   xmms ~/music/GamingFMClassicConsoleLowBW.pls 
   swiftfox 
   exec /usr/local/bin/fluxbox

   and the script (wallpaper.sh):

   #!/bin/bash
   WALLPAPERS=/home/paul/wallpaper #change this path for your system
   ALIST=( `ls -w1 /home/paul/wallpaper` )
   RANGE=${#ALIST[@]}
   let number = $RANDOM
   let LASTNUM=`cat $WALLPAPERS/.last` + $number
   let number = $LASTNUM % $RANGE
   echo $number  $WALLPAPERS/.last
   fbsetbg $WALLPAPERS/${ALIST[$number]} 

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[Bug 69938] Re: Fluxbox background disappears on certain events

2014-08-03 Thread pwaring
--no-background isn't a valid argument according to the man page (on
trusty).

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[Bug 69938] Re: Fluxbox background disappears on certain events

2014-08-03 Thread Mathias Gumz
a) any process can change the background image. changing the background
image is done by drawing pixels to the root-window, any process can do
that. and .. to your surprise .. one can do that without detecting the
change. and furthermore: how should the window-manager react on the
change? obviously the end-user has called a program which set the
background, from fluxbox' point of view there is no difference between
fbsetbg or nautilus in regards to if they change the background pixels.
even IF the app (wine or something else) does not write their
background pixels to the root-window but to another window in front of
the root-window which is NOT handling events (so fluxbox would receive
the right-click in that case): we have no means to detect the changes in
the pixels belonging to that window.

b) the chrome-argument didn't try to explain the change of background
window but addressed the issue that right-clicks are handled by the app
covering the area where the end-user clicks with her mouse.  if you as
the end-user launch any app with maximal coverage of the monitor than
you can not right-click the root-window which is what would trigger the
RootMenu. you are not considerung right-clicking a regular xterm or a
regular sized chrome or a regular sized xyz and not getting the RootMenu
a bug either, do you? if you launch apps in fullscreen, this is what
you get.

c) fluxbox does not generate the menu used in ubuntu/debian, it is
generated by their own mechanism. you can fill a bugreport towards that
end, if you like. some other menu-generators are using the .desktop
files: fluxbox does not control the content of these .desktop files
either, the launch arguments are inside. if you change the general
launch arguments there: a regular gnome-user will be very disappointed,
i can promise you that.

again: i do not see how fluxbox can handle the things you think are
bugs: fullscreen-apps (no matter on what desktop-layer) will complaint
if the right-clicks are not coming through. background-setters would be
pissed when fluxbox would reset the background (if fluxbox would be able
to reliable detect such changes).

do not think i do not see the problem you have (experience wise), but
there is nothing i as the currently active fluxbox maintainer might do
about it.

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[Bug 69938] Re: Fluxbox background disappears on certain events

2014-08-03 Thread Mathias Gumz
again: nautilus is a file-manager. files. not background-images. not
right-clicks on the desktop. files. if you want to use nautilus and it
does the things it does to increase user-experience (i can even
understand the arguments for spanning the whole desktop) then thats what
you get. when i launch an app on my windows-machine (as in windows-the-
os) and that app changes the background and spans all space: i am not
able to either trigger the regular right-click-menu on the desktop NOR
does windows changes back the content of the background). you may not
like it, but thats the behaviour you get from app xyz.

the topic of this bugreport is fluxbox backgrounds change and from my
point of view this can be closed coz it can not be solved: if something
sets a new background then thats what happened: something set a new
background. case closed.

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Re: [Bug 69938] Re: Fluxbox background disappears on certain events

2014-08-03 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
--*no*-*desktop* - sorry. In the middle of the woods replying on my phone
without much cell service. Had to look up that manpage.
On Aug 3, 2014 7:35 AM, pwaring launch...@pwaring.com wrote:

 --no-background isn't a valid argument according to the man page (on
 trusty).

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 Status in “fluxbox” package in Ubuntu:
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 Bug description:
   I have a script that randomly selects a wallpaper from my art folder
   and than uses the command fbsetbg to set it as my background. This
   script is in my ~/.fluxbox/startup file.

   The script runs fine and displays the wallpaper after I login. I
   noticed, however, when I run certain programs (WINE in particular) the
   fluxbox background just disappears, and goes back to a plain gray. I
   am fairly certain the problem is not with the script or the entry on
   my startup file, but I am providing them below anyway.

   Here is my startup file:

   wallpaper.sh
   gaim 
   xmms ~/music/GamingFMClassicConsoleLowBW.pls 
   swiftfox 
   exec /usr/local/bin/fluxbox

   and the script (wallpaper.sh):

   #!/bin/bash
   WALLPAPERS=/home/paul/wallpaper #change this path for your system
   ALIST=( `ls -w1 /home/paul/wallpaper` )
   RANGE=${#ALIST[@]}
   let number = $RANDOM
   let LASTNUM=`cat $WALLPAPERS/.last` + $number
   let number = $LASTNUM % $RANGE
   echo $number  $WALLPAPERS/.last
   fbsetbg $WALLPAPERS/${ALIST[$number]} 

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[Bug 69938] Re: Fluxbox background disappears on certain events

2014-08-02 Thread pwaring
** Also affects: fluxbox
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 69938] Re: Fluxbox background disappears on certain events

2014-08-02 Thread pwaring
This problem is still occurring in Trusty, it's extremely frustrating as
the inability to get a menu up and running means no programs can be
launched other than through a terminal.

Steps to reproduce:

1. Install Ubuntu Desktop 14.04 from latest ISO image.
2. Install fluxbox using: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
3. Select Fluxbox from the list of window managers/desktop environments in the 
login screen.
4. Launch Nautilus (some other programs have the same effect).
5. Background changes to Ubuntu default wallpaper, can no longer right click to 
bring up Fluxbox menu.

I'm happy to help test any patches which attempt to fix this bug.

** Changed in: fluxbox (Ubuntu)
   Status: Expired = Confirmed

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[Bug 69938] Re: Fluxbox background disappears on certain events

2010-12-12 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
[Expired for fluxbox (Ubuntu) because there has been no activity for 60
days.]

** Changed in: fluxbox (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Expired

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[Bug 69938] Re: Fluxbox background disappears on certain events

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make
Ubuntu better. The issue that you reported is one that should be
reproducible with the live environment of the Desktop CD of the
development release - Maverick  Meerkat. It would help us greatly if you
could test with it so we can work on getting it fixed in the next
release of Ubuntu. You can find out more about the development release
at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/ . Thanks again and we appreciate your
help.

** Changed in: fluxbox (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Incomplete

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[Bug 69938] Re: Fluxbox background disappears on certain events

2009-02-10 Thread rdean
I have noticed this problem as well.  Or something similar.  The
background wallpaper is replaced with the Ubuntu 'default' background
when I start Rhythmbox and, in addition, when I start Nautilus.

In addition, fluxbox actions that require the desktop no longer work.
For example, right clicking the desktop should bring up the Root Menu
(or at least with the default setup) but it does not.  I am still able
to bring up the RootMenu using a hotkey.  Other actions that require a
click on the desktop no longer work.  I've also noticed that it
interferes with conky.  The  Ubuntu 'default' background goes over top
of the conky output, for lack of a better description.

I've noticed this in both Hardy Heron and in Jaunty Jackalope Alpha 4
(although the conky problem does not happen in Jaunty Jackalope).

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[Bug 69938] Re: Fluxbox background disappears on certain events

2008-03-07 Thread Randy LeJeune
Note: I have noticed the above behaviour when using Enlightenment as
well.

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[Bug 69938] Re: Fluxbox background disappears on certain events

2008-02-18 Thread Randy LeJeune
When I start rhythmbox while using Fluxbox, the background wallpaper
disappears from the style that I have chosen and displayes the Ubuntu
'default' background. I am running Hardy Heron. This is not a major
issue, just a minor annoyance.

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[Bug 69938] Re: Fluxbox background disappears on certain events

2008-02-18 Thread Randy LeJeune
** Changed in: fluxbox (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Confirmed

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Re: [Bug 69938] Re: Fluxbox background disappears on certain events

2007-10-06 Thread Paul Storey
I stopped using Fluxbox a while back, so I don't know if it's still an
issue or not. But you can go ahead and delete/remove the bug report if
you want.

Thanks,
Paul

On 9/5/07, Lionel Le Folgoc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make
 Ubuntu better. You reported this bug a while ago and there hasn't been
 any activity in it recently. We were wondering is this still an issue
 for you? Thanks in advance.

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[Bug 69938] Re: Fluxbox background disappears on certain events

2007-09-05 Thread Lionel Le Folgoc
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make
Ubuntu better. You reported this bug a while ago and there hasn't been
any activity in it recently. We were wondering is this still an issue
for you? Thanks in advance.

** Changed in: fluxbox (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 69938] Re: Fluxbox background disappears on certain events

2006-11-02 Thread Paul Storey
** Description changed:

  I have a script that randomly selects a wallpaper from my art folder and
  than uses the command fbsetbg to set it as my background. This script
- is in my ~/fluxbox/startup file.
+ is in my ~/.fluxbox/startup file.
  
  The script runs fine and displays the wallpaper when I boot. I noticed,
  however, when I run certain programs (WINE in particular) the fluxbox
  background just disappears, and goes back to a plain gray. I am fairly
- certain the probelm is not with the script or the entry on my startup
- file. The only reason I even mentioned the script is to provide as much
- information as possible.
+ certain the problem is not with the script or the entry on my startup
+ file, but I am providing them below anyway.
  
  Here is my startup file:
  
  wallpaper.sh
  gaim 
  xmms ~/music/GamingFMClassicConsoleLowBW.pls 
  swiftfox 
  
- and the script:
+ and the script (wallpaper.sh):
  
  #!/bin/bash 
  WALLPAPERS=/home/paul/wallpaper #change this path for your system 
  ALIST=( `ls -w1 /home/paul/wallpaper` ) 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  let number = $RANDOM 
  let LASTNUM=`cat $WALLPAPERS/.last` + $number 
  let number = $LASTNUM % $RANGE 
  echo $number  $WALLPAPERS/.last 
  fbsetbg $WALLPAPERS/${ALIST[$number]} 

** Description changed:

  I have a script that randomly selects a wallpaper from my art folder and
  than uses the command fbsetbg to set it as my background. This script
  is in my ~/.fluxbox/startup file.
  
  The script runs fine and displays the wallpaper when I boot. I noticed,
  however, when I run certain programs (WINE in particular) the fluxbox
  background just disappears, and goes back to a plain gray. I am fairly
  certain the problem is not with the script or the entry on my startup
  file, but I am providing them below anyway.
  
  Here is my startup file:
  
  wallpaper.sh
  gaim 
  xmms ~/music/GamingFMClassicConsoleLowBW.pls 
  swiftfox 
+ exec /usr/local/bin/fluxbox
  
  and the script (wallpaper.sh):
  
  #!/bin/bash 
  WALLPAPERS=/home/paul/wallpaper #change this path for your system 
  ALIST=( `ls -w1 /home/paul/wallpaper` ) 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  let number = $RANDOM 
  let LASTNUM=`cat $WALLPAPERS/.last` + $number 
  let number = $LASTNUM % $RANGE 
  echo $number  $WALLPAPERS/.last 
  fbsetbg $WALLPAPERS/${ALIST[$number]} 

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2006-11-02 Thread Paul Storey
** Description changed:

  I have a script that randomly selects a wallpaper from my art folder and
  than uses the command fbsetbg to set it as my background. This script
  is in my ~/.fluxbox/startup file.
  
- The script runs fine and displays the wallpaper when I boot. I noticed,
- however, when I run certain programs (WINE in particular) the fluxbox
- background just disappears, and goes back to a plain gray. I am fairly
- certain the problem is not with the script or the entry on my startup
- file, but I am providing them below anyway.
+ The script runs fine and displays the wallpaper after I login. I
+ noticed, however, when I run certain programs (WINE in particular) the
+ fluxbox background just disappears, and goes back to a plain gray. I am
+ fairly certain the problem is not with the script or the entry on my
+ startup file, but I am providing them below anyway.
  
  Here is my startup file:
  
  wallpaper.sh
  gaim 
  xmms ~/music/GamingFMClassicConsoleLowBW.pls 
  swiftfox 
  exec /usr/local/bin/fluxbox
  
  and the script (wallpaper.sh):
  
  #!/bin/bash 
  WALLPAPERS=/home/paul/wallpaper #change this path for your system 
  ALIST=( `ls -w1 /home/paul/wallpaper` ) 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  let number = $RANDOM 
  let LASTNUM=`cat $WALLPAPERS/.last` + $number 
  let number = $LASTNUM % $RANGE 
  echo $number  $WALLPAPERS/.last 
  fbsetbg $WALLPAPERS/${ALIST[$number]} 

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https://launchpad.net/bugs/69938

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