[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2012-03-17 Thread Tore Anderson
The second part is now committed, here: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/commit/?id=6b9511f6e98429c01b741754bc58795bf59f693e Tore -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2012-03-16 Thread Tore Anderson
FYI, The Fedora project has decided to consider IPv6-only network attachment failing out-of-the-box a release blocker for Fedora 17. And the required patches to fix that is hitting the NetworkManager upstream code as we speak. One significant commit is here:

Re: [Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2012-02-28 Thread Tore Anderson
Hi Mathieu, On dual-stack networks, which remains the norm rather than ipv6-only so far, The norm so far is without question IPv4-only, which outnumbers anything including IPv6 by an enormous amount. According to Google, IPv4-only is the case for about 99.5% of users world-wide (see

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2012-02-27 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
On dual-stack networks, which remains the norm rather than ipv6-only so far, and usually still require IPv4 to gain access to a large part of the internet, having IPv4 optional will mean the connection may still be brought up with just IPv6. Then people will wonder what is going on and file bugs

Re: [Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2012-02-25 Thread Tore Anderson
* Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre That's an option that can be changed by the user, so irrelevant to supporting IPv6 networks out of the box. «Plug and Play» is important for most users. I don't think there are enough IPv6-only networks to warrant shipping IPv4 as optional by default just yet, to

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2012-02-24 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
That's an option that can be changed by the user, so irrelevant to supporting IPv6 networks out of the box. I don't think there are enough IPv6-only networks to warrant shipping IPv4 as optional by default just yet, to me that's likely to cause far more pain for the time being. Definitely

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2012-02-22 Thread Tore Anderson
Great! However, is IPv4 success still required in order to bring up interfaces? If so, that still needs to change before you can say that Ubuntu truly supports IPv6 networks out of the box. Tore -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2012-02-21 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
This should have been closed again some time ago -- the default since Oneiric is to try IPv6 in Automatic mode; although its success is not required to bring up interfaces. ** Changed in: network-manager (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-09-08 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
I reopened the bug because the change made in network-manager 0.9.0-0ubuntu2 breaks connections using mobile broadband devices (the connections fail silently). Notified the NM mailing list about the issue on the patch from Tore. * debian/patches/lp761558_default_ip6_setting_auto.patch: default to

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-09-02 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package network-manager - 0.9.0-0ubuntu2 --- network-manager (0.9.0-0ubuntu2) oneiric; urgency=low * debian/patches/lp761558_default_ip6_setting_auto.patch: default to AUTO for IPv6 method if the setting is missing (e.g. default new connection for new

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-09-02 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/network-manager -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/761558 Title: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices To manage

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-09-02 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package network-manager-applet - 0.9.0-0ubuntu2 --- network-manager-applet (0.9.0-0ubuntu2) oneiric; urgency=low * debian/patches/default-ipv6-auto.patch: don't expect a missing DHCPv6 method value to mean Ignore, when it now means use DHCP. (LP:

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-08-30 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
I finally could verify/reproduce the issues you were seeing with connections initially never start DHCPv6 even if they are showing Auto for the method -- there is another part of network-manager which uses the assumption that a missing method (e.g. for a new device connection, which typically

Re: [Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-08-30 Thread Tore Anderson
I finally could verify/reproduce the issues you were seeing with connections initially never start DHCPv6 even if they are showing Auto for the method -- there is another part of network-manager which uses the assumption that a missing method (e.g. for a new device connection, which typically

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-08-06 Thread Tore Anderson
** Attachment added: Syslog, Oneiric alpha-3, singlestac IPv4, wired https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/761558/+attachment/2258180/+files/test2.oneiric-a3.wired.singlestack.syslog -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-08-06 Thread Tore Anderson
** Attachment added: Syslog, Oneiric alpha-3, dualstack, wireless https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/761558/+attachment/2258181/+files/test3.oneiric-a3.wireless.dualstack.syslog -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs,

Re: [Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-08-06 Thread Tore Anderson
Okay, now I've tested a bit with the Oneiric Alpha 3 live image. Highlights: - The default Wired connection profile now has set the IPv6 mode to Automatic by default. - ...however, it behaves as if it is still set to «Disable» and does no attempt of configuring IPv6. - DHCPv6 appears broken, any

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-08-06 Thread Tore Anderson
** Attachment added: Syslog, Oneiric alpha-3, singlestack IPv6, wireless https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/761558/+attachment/2258182/+files/test4.oneiric-a3.wireless.singlestack.syslog -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-08-06 Thread Tore Anderson
I also found a crash (probably unrelated to IPv6). In this syslog, I booted the Live CD on a computer connected to a dual- stacked network using wired ethernet. As in test #1 above, it connected only using IPv4, apparently ignoring that the default IPv6 mode was «automatic». I entered the

Re: [Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-07-26 Thread Tore Anderson
* Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre I've just confirmed it is indeed the case: there is something wrong in the LiveCD, and we'll definitely fix that. Great! :-) After re-reading this, I also got to the same conclusion (and also with Stephane's careful analysis and testing); IPv4 could theoretically

Re: [Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-07-26 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Tore Anderson t...@fud.no wrote: Is that the only concern you have about making IPv4 optional? It is, although I'm just stating potential issues so we can make an informed decision. The next step will be to bring this up to the NetworkManager mailing list; I'd

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-07-26 Thread Tore Anderson
I agree completely that it is the best if this change is made upstream so that it will benefit other Linux distributions too! I actually submitted a bug on NetworkManager in Fedora back in 2009 regarding IPv6 support by default (which was falsely claimed to be implemented in the release notes of

Re: [Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-07-25 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Tore Anderson t...@fud.no wrote: If you look closely at the log, you will see that NM does not do anything at all about IPv6 until I manually change the settings at 15:37:19. Before that point, the only thing related to IPv6 that is logged at all is from

Re: [Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-07-22 Thread Tore Anderson
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:30:34 -, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre mathieu...@gmail.com wrote: Dual-stack and single-stack connections are being tested extensively, but at this point the default is already (for an automatically created connection, that is) to have IPv6 at Automatic and optional. This

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-07-21 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
Dual-stack and single-stack connections are being tested extensively, but at this point the default is already (for an automatically created connection, that is) to have IPv6 at Automatic and optional. This doesn't apply to connections created by clicking the Add button in nm- connection-editor

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-07-11 Thread Tore Anderson
I just tested Oneiric alpha-2, and there has been no improvement. After booting the Live DVD, it ultimately fails to connect to the network (after repeated attempts), due to the lack of DHCPv4 responses from the network. This happens to be because the default «Wired connection 1» profile has 1)

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-06-26 Thread Stéphane Graber
Assigning to Matt Trudel who's working on changing the default. ** Changed in: network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre (mathieu-tl) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-06-25 Thread Tore Anderson
** Changed in: network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released = Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/761558 Title: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-06-25 Thread Tore Anderson
I'm reopening this bug, as Oneiric Alpha 1 does not appear to be able to connect to IPv6 networks in its default out-of-the-box configuration. See attached (unedited) syslog for a log of the process. The network in question is managed by an AVM FRITZ!Box 7390 DSL router, which uses SLAAC for IPv6

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-06-20 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
Closing as Fix Released, the default for NM 0.9 (which is now in Oneiric) is to enable IPv6 automatically, although it's optional to bring up interfaces. ** Changed in: network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-04-18 Thread Tore Anderson
Mathieu, I did not mean to insist on this becoming part of Natty. While that would have been a good thing, I can understand that the release cycle has progressed too far now. However, I wanted to object to your argument which I interpreted as essentially: «it does not matter if IPv6 is supported

[Bug 761558] Re: Default to enabling IPv6 addresses, but set to optional to bring up devices

2011-04-17 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
What I mean by this is that for most users, switching to IPv6 is a no- op: ISPs will switch, most likely provide v6 addresses from their systems to the CPE, but most local networks for customers will remain IPv4. AFAIK, there are still very few home routers sold with IPv6 support (with the notable