[Bug 862776] Re: apt-get --install-suggests install is a NOOP
** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/862776 Title: apt-get --install-suggests install is a NOOP To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/862776/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 862776] Re: apt-get --install-suggests install is a NOOP
After doing some tests inside and outside a chroot I've found the following. 1. If a package is not currently installed then --install-suggests will work: $ sudo apt-get --install-suggests install git Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: cvs cvsps emacs emacs23 emacs23-bin-common emacs23-common emacs23-el emacsen-common fgetty git-arch git-cvs git-daemon-run git-doc git-el git-email git-gui git-man git-svn gitk gitweb libauthen-sasl-perl libcxxtools-dev libcxxtools7 libdbd-sqlite3-perl libdbi-perl libgssapi-perl libm17n-0 libnet-daemon-perl libnet-smtp-ssl-perl libotf0 libplrpc-perl libsvn-perl libterm-readkey-perl libtntnet-dev libtntnet9 m17n-contrib m17n-db m17n-docs mksh rcs runit ssh tcl tk tk8.5 tla tla-doc tntnet tntnet-demos tntnet-doc tntnet-runtime Suggested packages: httpd-cgi libcgi-fast-perl socklog-run The following NEW packages will be installed cvs cvsps emacs emacs23 emacs23-bin-common emacs23-common emacs23-el emacsen-common fgetty git git-arch git-cvs git-daemon-run git-doc git-el git-email git-gui git-man git-svn gitk gitweb libauthen-sasl-perl libcxxtools-dev libcxxtools7 libdbd-sqlite3-perl libdbi-perl libgssapi-perl libm17n-0 libnet-daemon-perl libnet-smtp-ssl-perl libotf0 libplrpc-perl libsvn-perl libterm-readkey-perl libtntnet-dev libtntnet9 m17n-contrib m17n-db m17n-docs mksh rcs runit ssh tcl tk tk8.5 tla tla-doc tntnet tntnet-demos tntnet-doc tntnet-runtime 0 upgraded, 52 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded. Need to get 56.4 MB/63.1 MB of archives. After this operation, 165 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? 2. If a package is already installed then installing (upgrading to) a newer version over the top will not honour the --install-suggests option: $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:git-core/ppa $ sudo apt-get update $ apt-cache policy git git: Installed: 1:1.7.9.5-1 Candidate: 1:1.7.11.1-0ppa1~precise3 Version table: 1:1.7.11.1-0ppa1~precise3 0 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/git-core/ppa/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages *** 1:1.7.9.5-1 0 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status $ sudo apt-get --install-suggests install git Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: git-man Suggested packages: git-daemon-run git-daemon-sysvinit git-doc git-el git-arch git-cvs git-svn git-email git-gui gitk gitweb The following packages will be upgraded: git git-man 2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded. Need to get 0 B/8,030 kB of archives. After this operation, 197 kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? 3. Doing a reinstall will not honour the --install-suggests option: $ sudo apt-get --install-suggests --reinstall install git Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded. Need to get 0 B/6,087 kB of archives. After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used. (Reading database ... 444159 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace git 1:1.7.9.5-1 (using .../git_1%3a1.7.9.5-1_amd64.deb) ... Unpacking replacement git ... Setting up git (1:1.7.9.5-1) ... The behaviour when the package is already installed is unexpected - one would expect the flag to be honoured when using the install command. ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Confirmed ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/862776 Title: apt-get --install-suggests install is a NOOP To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/862776/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 862776] Re: apt-get --install-suggests install is a NOOP
@TJ IIRC recommends (and suggests, with --install-suggests) are only considered when upgrading/reinstalling a package if they are new recommends which were not present with the previous version. This makes sense, if the user has previously requested a particular recommends to be ignored it should not be installed on upgrades to the base package: - A recommends B, C - user installs A but does not desire B: apt-get install A B- - installed: A, C - user upgrades A (B remains undesired): apt-get install A - installed: A, C However, new recommends will be installed on upgrade (as you discovered): - A=1 recommends B, C - A=2 recommends B, C, D - installed: A=1, C - user upgrades A (B remains undesired): apt-get install A=2 - installed: A=2, C, D Without this behaviour you would have to remember each and every undesired recommends and specify them on subsequent commands, or always run with --no-install-recommends and manually check for and install new recommends. Looking at the apt-get man page this appears to be undocumented. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/862776 Title: apt-get --install-suggests install is a NOOP To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/862776/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 862776] Re: apt-get --install-suggests install is a NOOP
I'm experiencing this with Precise, trying to install the suggests for the 'git' package from the stable PPA ( https://launchpad.net/~git- core/+archive/ppa ). All the suggested packages are available for individual installation, but using --install-suggests doesn't. apt-cache show git | egrep '^(Version|Suggests)' Version: 1:1.7.11.1-0ppa1~precise3 Suggests: gettext-base, git-daemon-run | git-daemon-sysvinit, git-doc, git-el, git-arch, git-cvs, git-svn, git-email, git-gui, gitk, gitweb apt-get --install-suggests install git -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/862776 Title: apt-get --install-suggests install is a NOOP To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/862776/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 862776] Re: apt-get --install-suggests install is a NOOP
Given that the bugtool claims it is likely a fresh install and all suggested packages are either multiverse and/or non-free are you sure that you actually have the sources activated to get these packages? It works for me and it is used in a passing testcase for #806274 so it is surely not a no-op (at least not in all cases, so we need more details - invalid for now)… ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/862776 Title: apt-get --install-suggests install is a NOOP To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/862776/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 862776] Re: apt-get --install-suggests install is a NOOP
** Description changed: apt-get --install-suggests install is supposed to include the Suggested packages in the list of packages to install, but instead it does nothing (i.e., no error is raised regarding command line usage or other syntax error) Same behavior with --install-suggests, install-suggests=true, or -o 'APT ::Install-Suggests=true' - pre - $ sudo apt-get -o 'APT::Install-Suggests=true' install sun-java6-bin Reading package lists... Done - Building dependency tree + Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: - gsfonts-x11 java-common odbcinst odbcinst1debian2 sun-java6-jre tightvncserver tzdata unixodbc + gsfonts-x11 java-common odbcinst odbcinst1debian2 sun-java6-jre tightvncserver tzdata unixodbc Suggested packages: - default-jre equivs sun-java6-plugin ia32-sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts ttf-kochi-gothic ttf-sazanami-gothic ttf-kochi-mincho - ttf-sazanami-mincho ttf-arphic-uming tightvnc-java libmyodbc odbc-postgresql tdsodbc unixodbc-bin + default-jre equivs sun-java6-plugin ia32-sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts ttf-kochi-gothic ttf-sazanami-gothic ttf-kochi-mincho + ttf-sazanami-mincho ttf-arphic-uming tightvnc-java libmyodbc odbc-postgresql tdsodbc unixodbc-bin The following NEW packages will be installed: - gsfonts-x11 java-common odbcinst odbcinst1debian2 sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre tightvncserver unixodbc + gsfonts-x11 java-common odbcinst odbcinst1debian2 sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre tightvncserver unixodbc The following packages will be upgraded: - tzdata + tzdata 1 upgraded, 8 newly installed, 0 to remove and 42 not upgraded. Need to get 36.9 MB of archives. After this operation, 104 MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? - /pre ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: apt 0.8.13.2ubuntu4.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-11.48-generic 2.6.38.8 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-11-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Architecture: amd64 Date: Thu Sep 29 15:51:35 2011 ProcEnviron: - LANGUAGE=en_US:en - PATH=(custom, user) - LANG=en_US.UTF-8 - SHELL=/bin/bash + LANGUAGE=en_US:en + PATH=(custom, user) + LANG=en_US.UTF-8 + SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: apt UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/862776 Title: apt-get --install-suggests install is a NOOP To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/862776/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
