[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored
I can confirm the behavior described in #31, 33 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored
** Changed in: compiz-core Status: In Progress = Triaged ** Changed in: compiz-core Assignee: MC Return (mc-return) = (unassigned) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored
@xgdgsc: 1. Please make sure that you have restarted Compiz/Unity before testing the fix. 2. Use the Place plugin to adjust place window settings, make sure you use the default settings in General Compiz Options-Display Settings (click on the 3 x to reset those). 3. Note that some windows (like media players) save their position on exit, so to make those appear on a new position move them there, before closing. On reopening they will appear on the position they were, when you closed them. 4. The settings dialogue will appear on the screen you've opened it from with my fix applied, but I am too lazy to make another video showing that. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored
@MCReturn I'm quite sure I've restarted my computer. I find it interesting that after I place the smaller display(1280*1024) left of the larger(1920*1080) in system settings-Display, when I click sound settings, system settings ,etc on the smaller display the window will always show on the larger one. While if I place the smaller display(1280*1024) right of the larger(1920*1080) , the same settings windows will always open correctly on the current display. I' m using default in General Compiz Options-Display Settings and using Output device with pointer in Place windows plugin. Anyway, using prefer smaller output in General Compiz Options-Display Settings works for me very well. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
The workaround on #24 works for me in most cases. Except when I open synaptic from the dash, the password prompt appears correctly while the synaptic window appears afterwards always on the smaller monitor. I have a 1920*1080 and a 1280*1024 monitor. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
Investigating... ** Changed in: compiz Assignee: (unassigned) = MC Return (mc-return) ** Changed in: compiz-core Assignee: (unassigned) = MC Return (mc-return) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
** Changed in: compiz Status: Confirmed = In Progress ** Changed in: compiz-core Status: Confirmed = In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored
** Summary changed: - New windows open on the wrong monitor + New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored
The problem here is (once again) that unityshell loads after the place plugin and overrides its settings. Also the standard setting of the Place plugin is not optimal if multi- monitors are used, because the standard setting for Multi Output Mode is set to Use active output device, which is better than not working at all, but Use output device with pointer as the users attention is usually there. The fix for this problem makes changes to unityshell.xml.in and place.xml.in, so changes to lp:unity and lp:compiz are involved here. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored
** Branch linked: lp:~mc-return/compiz/compiz.merge-fix874146-place- plugin-broken ** Branch linked: lp:~mc-return/unity/unity.merge-fix874146-place- plugin-broken ** Branch unlinked: lp:~mc-return/compiz/compiz.merge-fix874146-place- plugin-broken ** Branch linked: lp:~mc-return/compiz/compiz.merge-fix874146-place- plugin-broken -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored
For all of you, who do not want until the fix is available via update can simply edit the .xml files in /usr/share/compiz, namely unityshell.xml and place.xml. 1. In unityshell.xml (sudo gedit /usr/share/compiz/unityshell.xml) remove the line pluginplace/plugin in the relation type=after block. 2. In place.xml (sudo gedit /usr/share/compiz/place.xml) add the line pluginunityshell/plugin in the relation type=after block. Done :) Enjoy a working Place plug-in and make sure to adjust the settings to your needs via CCSM-Window Management-Place Windows Plugin (sudo apt- get install compizconfig-settings-manager). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored
Here you can see the fix in action. Other Place Plugin settings also work now, but this is the preferred behaviour for most multi-display users. ** Attachment added: Unity and Place working together in harmony ;) https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz-core/+bug/874146/+attachment/3406177/+files/UnityAndPlacePluginWorkingTogether.webm -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored
After applying the fix in #29 , when I set the CCSMGeneral OptionsDisplay settings to Smart Mode , if I click the sound settings from the sound applet on the smaller display, the settings dialog appears still on the larger display. I don't think it's right behavior. Thanks for your effort , though. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor, Place Plugin settings silently ignored To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
** Changed in: compiz Milestone: 0.9.8.4 = 0.9.9.0 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
I've also had this problem - two monitors of equal resolution and the place plugin configuration seemingly ineffective. I think I have a workaround by following comment 10 from bug #930660, specifically: CCSMGeneral OptionsDisplay Settings: Overlapping Output handling=Prefer smaller output CCSMPlace WindowsGeneral: Multi output mode=Use output device with pointer It does appear to be related to compiz resolution handling, but affects situations where the outputs are the same resolution. Some comments indicate that the relative screen locations in the configuration may also affect this issue, in case that helps with the debugging. A simple test case is to open the print dialog on any application (e.g. gedit) - this used to open on the wrong screen, but is fixed by changing the overlapping output handling. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
Workaround doesn't work for me. I have two 1680x1050 monitors (via Nvidia Twinview) and the in the first window placement is functional but in the second, new windows appear in a pile at x:0 and y = to the last y placement on the working monitor. :-/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
** Changed in: compiz Milestone: 0.9.8.2 = 0.9.8.4 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
I had the same problem (new windows placing on the wrond display if using multiple displays with Unity in Ubuntu 11.10). First I installed the Compiz-Settings-manager [sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager]. In the Settings-manger, I checked the Place Windows-Plugin. There you will have all possible variations to fill you needs. BUT, to get it work correctly, I needed to enter in a shell: [export DISPLAY=:0]. And then it works until you reboot. Of course you can launch a script at startup that does this automatically. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
I don't know if this is related as I am new to Ubuntu, but I had the same problem running Java applications from Eclipse. I switched to Gnome (I was using Unity) and now the problem is solved. I hope it can help. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
@Francis Gnome is probably using a different window manager. Gnome Classic (without effects) uses Metacity, Gnome Shell uses Mutter. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
** Changed in: compiz Milestone: 0.9.8.0 = 0.9.8.1 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
Hey! No one will fix this bug? Can someone post an update on why the resolution is being delayed? thanks. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
Cuby, There's lots of work to be done. This is not the only bug out there to be worked on. Patience, it will be fixed in due time :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
** Changed in: compiz Milestone: None = 0.9.8.0 ** Changed in: compiz-core Milestone: 0.9.8.0 = None -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
** Changed in: compiz Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz-core/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
** Changed in: compiz-core Milestone: None = 0.9.8.0 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz-core/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
Window Management - Place Window: What exactly does 'Use active output device' mean? What is an active output device? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz-core/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
eraserix: Compiz refers to monitors as output devices. It means monitor :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz-core/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
The 'Place Windows' plugin has absolutely no effect on the placement of popup windows, which appear correctly if I open a popup from a window on my top monitor (ie centered over the originating window) but always at the top of my lower monitor if I open a popup from a window in the lower monitor (this includes windows opened by system menu options like 'Shutdown'). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz-core/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
I see this problem with some applications if I start them using the Unity launcher keyboard shortcut, but they're fine if started using the mouse. For example, if I use the mouse to start Chrome from the launcher on my RH monitor, then Chrome opens on that monitor. However, if I have the mouse pointer on the RH monitor, and use Super+9 to start Chrome, then Chrome opens on the LH monitor. As I have the launchers set to autohide, I know that chrome is being started by the RH launcher, as that is the one that appears when I press Super. This behaviour is still there with latest 10.04 updates applied as of about 10 minutes ago. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz-core/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
Sorry, the last para of my previous msg should have said latest 12.04 updates, not latest 10.04 updates. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz-core/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 874146] Re: New windows open on the wrong monitor
Hey all, I know this bug affects a lot of people. However please check the settings of the Compiz Place plugin before contributing to the discussion. You can do this by running ccsm (from the package: compizconfig-settings-manager) and looking in: Window Management Place Windows There are a few settings you can tweak there. I know it won't work for everyone, however some people are likely to find they can fix their problems by changing the settings. One person above even mentioned that he got the behaviour he wanted by disabling Place Windows altogether. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/874146 Title: New windows open on the wrong monitor To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz-core/+bug/874146/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
