[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2013-01-04 Thread André Desgualdo Pereira
@Bruno, 
Unfortunately an update of compiz has replaced your ppa with Doug's patch. I 
don't want to bother you but it would be great if you update your ppa. Or 
better yet if you post a step by step guide how to compile compiz with Doug's 
patch.
Best regards.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-13 Thread Łukasz Zemczak
Actually, my fix that got merged (and I think reverted quickly after)
removed the hack and introduced correct behavior, with the possibility
of switching between the two behaviors. I wonder why it's not actually
present in lp:compiz right now. We shouldn't be bothering with
introducing different behavior at the beginning of a cycle, right?

I think I need to re-enter this bug and try finding a satisfactionary
solution for everyone.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-13 Thread Sebastien Bacher
@Doug:

 what's the downside to applying the 0.9.7 commit in precise  also
adjusting scale.xml.in to get desired results.

changing default action will only apply for new user since the actions
are written in the user's config on first start ... e.g your xml.in
change will not apply to existing users and their super-W will start
doing the wrong thing

@Matthias:

 I know it's only one issue per bug report. But the underlying problem
is a single commit and many bugs are connected to fixing this bug
correctly (which has been done for 12.10). This bug produces issues for
people who don't even use scale all. Most corporte users don't use
scale all but they do see the flying windows.

Right, and I don't see an issue fixing the flying windows bug in a
SRU, it seems like we could fix that while keeping the buggy action
mapping to not change the super-W behaviour. It's likely that this bug
would already have been fixed if there was a ticket tracking the
flying issue rather than having it discussed in the middle for the 170
comments on the scale behaviour bug...


 The way I see it this bug is unfixable with the only acceptable solution 
 apparently being the introduction of a second hack that will (I think) 
 introduce even more problems for the next dist-upgrade.

we need to have a look on how the bug got fixed in 12.10 and if there is
a side effect of making super-W do the wrong thing for upgrades or if
that got dealt with in some way (note that this version migrated to
gsettings so it gave an opportunity to migrate settings, we can't
backport that though)

one other way would be to add some migration code to compiz itself,
e.g have a one time migration, conditional to a flag that will be
written somewhere, which could do something like if scale for all
workspace = super-W; then reset it and reset the scale for one
workspace so the new default are picked for users who didn't change
the action.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-13 Thread Daniel van Vugt
** Changed in: compiz-core
Milestone: 0.9.7.12 = 0.9.7.14

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-13 Thread Miklos Juhasz
 It's likely that this bug would already have been fixed if there was a
ticket tracking the flying issue rather than having it discussed in
the middle for the 170 comments on the scale behaviour bug...

There is one: LP: #955035

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-13 Thread Sebastien Bacher
 There is one: LP: #955035

great, let's use this one to track the flying windows issue then, the
bug is in a reasonable state and a good basis for a SRU

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-13 Thread Doug McMahon
Sebastien Bacher (seb128) wrote 
changing default action will only apply for new user since the actions are 
written in the user's config on first start ... e.g your xml.in change will not 
apply to existing users and their super-W will start doing the wrong thing

Not really, super+w is set for current workspace only  a patched
compiz/.xml would continue to use super+w for current workspace only
(tested here

The only possible issue with the current 0.9.7 commit + .xml change is
the possibility of the so-called flying windows. As I mentioned quite
some time ago over the course of 60 or so fresh 12.04 installs with a
patched compiz the fly aways would sometimes  happen only *once*  per
install, maybe others find differently??

Used the attached for reference

** Patch added: scale1.patch
   
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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-13 Thread Sebastien Bacher
@Doug: that requires testing, it seems weird that the system .xml value
would take over the user config in the user .gconf directory (currently
super-W is binding to show wins on all workspaces and that value is in
the user config)

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-13 Thread Doug McMahon
Probably best to do a new fresh install but maybe these to screens can 
illustrate - 
this screen is with the current compiz source  bindings set to default values
(superw - all:, ShiftAltUp - current WS, noting that *in use* Super+W 
picks from current WS irregardless of binding.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-13 Thread Doug McMahon
Now after installing patched compiz source the bindings are switched 
automatically 
(probably a log out/in to take affect


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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread Eddie Dunn
If policy prevents fixing broken behavior it seems to me said policy
needs to be amended.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread André Desgualdo Pereira
The bug 689733 has now a heat of 184 while this has 1090. So which
behavior is more critical from a user point of view?

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread John Lea
@desgua; that's because it is the current implementation, and people
generally don't comment if they are happy with the status quo.

We had *a lot* of requests from the community to make the change
described in bug #689733, so this debate is really is 6 of one, half a
dozen of another.

If we were to change the behaviour around to what it was before bug
#689733 was implemented I guarantee we will have an equal number of
people complaining that I use workspaces to segment tasks/areas of
life/contexts, for example I have one workspace for personal stuff I use
in my lunch break, another workspace I use for work, and another
workspace dedicated to the report I am working on.  I use workspaces so
that I can focus on the task at hand, please don't always display
windows from other workspaces that I am not currently using.

The issue is that there are several valid different ways of using
workspaces, and we don't want to make a change that will inconvenience
all the users who requested that we make the change described in bug
#689733 in the first place.

This is why this bug requests that this behaviour is made configurable
in System Settings:

--

- In the short term what we can do is expose this option in 'System
Settings / Keyboard / Shortcuts'. We can add two new actions to this
panel:

'Spread all windows on the current workspace' (default setting: Super+W)
and
'Spread all windows on all workspaces' (default setting: Disabled)

and then it will be easy for users to choose the behaviour that suites
them best.

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Can you see any alternative means of making all classes of workspace
users happy without introducing this configuration option?

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Re: [Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread André Desgualdo Pereira
@John Lea, I think that exposing this option in 'System Settings / Keyboard
/ Shortcuts' is a great solution that could be landed in 12.04. Don't you
agree?

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread Matthias Niess
@johnlea: I proposed a solution in #122 and #136.

If I understand correctly bug #689733 was just an incorrectly set
shortcut (super+w was set to scale all viewports instead of scale
current viewport). The solution (again, if I understand correctly) was
to hack scale all viewports to display only the windows on the current
viewport (which is an ugly hack and introduced a ton of other bugs).

Introducing a new option to compiz and keeping scale all viewports as
it is would cause problems with with the upgrade path to 14.04, wouldn't
it?

Having to change a keycombo is such a minor annoyance compared to having
this bug (and all that come with it, flying windows, etc.). And as
proposed in #122 we could even do it automatically.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread christian
Sorry, but for me, this is definitely a bug exists only in 12.04:

with ccsm (Window Management / Scale / Assignments)
it is possible to set 'Start selector windows for all windows':
  - It works until 10.04
with 12.04 it does not work == BUG! ! !
- From 13.04, it works again

- google translate from french -

Désolé, mais pour moi, cela reste définitivement un bug existant
uniquement dans 12.04:

avec ccsm (Gestion des fenêtres/Echelle/Assignations),
il est possible de paramétrer  'Lancer le sélecteur de fenêtres pour toutes les 
fenêtres' :
 -- jusque 10.04 cela fonctionne
avec 12.04 cela ne fonctionne pas==BUG ! ! !
-- depuis 13.04, cela refonctionne

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread zzecool
We have a very nice expression  here in Greece ..

Πνίγεσαι σε μια κουταλιά νερό

in free translation

drowning in a teaspoon of water

And this is what is really happening with this bug. The whole situation
is a joke.

This is a bug and a regression , if it is to hunt and file a report about a so 
serious bug  at 16/2/2012 during the Precise Alpha 2  !
to find out that the bug is still here with so much attention , not even after 
beta1 beta2 but 8 months after the Final LTS release ... then i don't really 
know why i have to file a bug report again than pray and hope for a fix ...

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread Corey Kearney
^^ zzecool hit the nail on the head. They had the chance to fix this
before whatever deadline that made impossible to change default
behaviour. But instead, they dicided to hack compiz to shit to bend it
to thier will. Really stupid when you consider all they had to do was
bind the action in  bug #689733 to THE OTHER KEYBINDING THAT WAS MEANT
FOR THE TASK. Now The only reason I can see this isn't fixed is stubborn
pigheadedness. Soon Suttleworth himself will be here to ironically tell
us this is the way its supposed to be like it or lump it or fix it
yourself.

I will never lift a finger for Ubuntu development again, I've seen this
treatment too many times now. This attitude that the release is set in
stone, fix it in the next one is just lazy.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread zzecool
+1 for common sense

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread Sebastien Bacher
hey everyone, thanks for the interest to Ubuntu/compiz/that issue  and
sorry it's taking time to get resolved but comments are turning to
heated tone and insults at this point and that's often non
constructive...

quite the contrary it might finish by demotivating the people who are on
your side and want to see the issue fixed but are just overworked and
didn't find the time to get to work on that yet

So could you move the chit-chat to some mailing list or user forum?


That said for those who want to help to get the issue resolved we welcome help 
on finding a solution which restore the option without changing the existing 
behaviour for users:

Summary of the issue/precise situation:

- super-W is binded to show wins from all workspaces
- show for all workspaces has been wrongly hacked to do show only from 
current workspace
- show from current workspace is not used

* the issue with undoing the hack is that it would change the behaviour
of super-W for all existing user to work over all workspace when it's
documented to be for the current workspace and how it behaves at the
moment ...

* we can't fix those user configuration from the distribution side,
the packages are not supposed to temper user configs and even if we
could we have no garanty that the user directory is available (it could
be password protected or on a nfs server and non mounted at the time of
the upgrade)


@mniess did some suggestions in comment #136, thanks for that. 

I don't think the prompt user about the configuration is something we
wil do, that bug has 236 followers and some of you do care strongly
about the topic, but in practice the question would be in-appropriate
for 99% of Ubuntu users who don't care about that setting/don't use
it/don't know about it/like it the way it is at the moment/don't want to
be asked questions they don't understand on upgrade ... we believe that
the tradeoff would be in disfavor of the majority of Ubuntu users, you
might disagree but it's the calling we are making and we are discarting
that option

That let us with the add yet another option to really show all wins
for other workspaces included or find a better option that the ones
suggested ... we would really appreciate if somebody can help and come
with a smart idea to solve the issue without breaking existing users or
bothering them on upgrade

thanks for reading

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread Sebastien Bacher
one other way would be to break show wins from the current workspace
to make it show wins from all workspace, e.g have both actions reverse
and not matching that description ... it's not right but it would make
the action possible for the tweakers that want it without breaking
behaviour on upgrade

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Re: [Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread Bruno Santos
Sebastian, how about switching the behaviours around for 12.04?

Maintain the current one as is and change the other to behave like this
did. Those who want to have the correct behaviour change the key bindings,
and current users are unaffected.

Does it make sense?
No dia 12 de Dez de 2012 17:48, Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com
escreveu:

 hey everyone, thanks for the interest to Ubuntu/compiz/that issue  and
 sorry it's taking time to get resolved but comments are turning to
 heated tone and insults at this point and that's often non
 constructive...

 quite the contrary it might finish by demotivating the people who are on
 your side and want to see the issue fixed but are just overworked and
 didn't find the time to get to work on that yet

 So could you move the chit-chat to some mailing list or user forum?


 That said for those who want to help to get the issue resolved we welcome
 help on finding a solution which restore the option without changing the
 existing behaviour for users:

 Summary of the issue/precise situation:

 - super-W is binded to show wins from all workspaces
 - show for all workspaces has been wrongly hacked to do show only from
 current workspace
 - show from current workspace is not used

 * the issue with undoing the hack is that it would change the behaviour
 of super-W for all existing user to work over all workspace when it's
 documented to be for the current workspace and how it behaves at the
 moment ...

 * we can't fix those user configuration from the distribution side,
 the packages are not supposed to temper user configs and even if we
 could we have no garanty that the user directory is available (it could
 be password protected or on a nfs server and non mounted at the time of
 the upgrade)


 @mniess did some suggestions in comment #136, thanks for that.

 I don't think the prompt user about the configuration is something we
 wil do, that bug has 236 followers and some of you do care strongly
 about the topic, but in practice the question would be in-appropriate
 for 99% of Ubuntu users who don't care about that setting/don't use
 it/don't know about it/like it the way it is at the moment/don't want to
 be asked questions they don't understand on upgrade ... we believe that
 the tradeoff would be in disfavor of the majority of Ubuntu users, you
 might disagree but it's the calling we are making and we are discarting
 that option

 That let us with the add yet another option to really show all wins
 for other workspaces included or find a better option that the ones
 suggested ... we would really appreciate if somebody can help and come
 with a smart idea to solve the issue without breaking existing users or
 bothering them on upgrade

 thanks for reading

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread Matthias Niess
@seb128: the problem goes much deeper than the show all windows thing.
As far as I can see the offending commit is just reverted in 12.10 and
the shortcuts are set correctly. This fixes everything (tm).

*Only* offering an option to show all windows will still leave all the
other bugs that would be fixed by reverting the offending commit (flying
windows, ...). Just as another incentive to really fix this instead of
adding another hack to the first one that causes all the problems.

I don't know what feedback you get from corporate users (employees won't
come here to report bugs) but I know several small businesses (50-150
employees) that suffer from this bug. We keep many users at 10.04 and
the rest uses 12.10 (which we hate because it means a lot of extra
work).

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread zzecool
I still can't understand ..  seb

You say that if you are going to undo the hack the super-W would
change the behaviour back to the for all windows when it is documented
to be for the current workspace.

So while you undo the hack why don't you just change - fix the
shortcut in the compiz config settings to correspond to the fix ?  (
Assign super-W to initiate window picker ) So noone will notice the fix.

I really don't get it , it looks so dead simple.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread Sebastien Bacher
@zzecool:

 So while you undo the hack why don't you just change - fix the
shortcut in the compiz config settings to correspond to the fix ? (
Assign super-W to initiate window picker ) So noone will notice the fix.

you can find the reason in comment #158 I wrote a bit earlier, the
configuration is user-owned and there is no way we can change user
config behind that back for several reasons:

- the user config belongs to the user, it would feel wrong to change
user settings behind their back, the package management tools don't
touch user datas ...

- I'm sure you can understand some users would feel uneasy knowing that
their datas might be changed by the system behind their back ... how to
know which ones, what if something was set the way it was for a reason

- the user directory might not be accessible, it might be protected or
unmounted

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread christian
zzecool sayd:

-I still can't understand .. seb
-
-You say that if you are going to undo the hack the super-W would change the 
behaviour back to the for all windows when it is -documented to be for the 
current workspace.
-
-So while you undo the hack why don't you just change - fix the shortcut in 
the compiz config settings to correspond to the fix ? -( Assign super-W to 
initiate window picker ) So noone will notice the fix.
-
-I really don't get it , it looks so dead simple.


I say::+1000

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread Sebastien Bacher
@mniess:

 This fixes everything (tm).

that would change the behaviour of super-W for users upgrading though
no?


 will still leave all the other bugs that would be fixed by reverting the 
 offending commit (flying windows, ...)

that's a different issue from the one this bug is about, this bug is
Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It
shows only windows from curent workspace.. There is no discussion that
we should fix other bugs if they exist but:

- the number of comments complaining that things are broken make it
hard to find where the informations are in the bug

- one bug report should describe one issue, that bug is about the picker
acting on one workspace when it's supposed to include others ones. if
you have other issues I would be happy to find resources in the desktop
team to look at them and to help to get them resolved but please open a
new bug with a short and explanatory description (better if users don't
come to turn that one is a flood of comments as well so we can keep the
discussion focussed on resolving that issue)

 I don't know what feedback you get from corporate users (employees
won't come here to report bugs) but I know several small businesses
(50-150 employees) that suffer from this bug.

We didn't get customers complains about that issue and nobody at
Canonical has been complaining about it either.

Most people running unity  just use the unity-launcher and click on the
icons and get what they want, or they use the documented super-W which
acts as documented.

In all the years I've been using GNOME/compiz or unity I never felt the
need to use an overview of all the wins open over all desktops ...
that would be a lot of things displayed and my workspaces are often
organized by activity so the overview makes more sense to me when it's
restricted to the workspace/context I'm working with. That's just to say
that different people have different workflow and what might seem an end
of the world issue is a no issue for others...

( note that I mention unity there because it's the desktop we ship and
provide support for ... I do understand that some of you run compiz in
other context though and that's fine and should work without bug as
well)


In any case your users seem to have a workflow built around that feature
and it would be good to fix the issue so let's focus on that

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread zzecool
Sorry Seb but your statement  about the user data is not valid.

I know that in every compiz update i have to reassign all of my
modifications in compiz config settings manager because every small
compiz update reset them to the default.

Hot Corners  Modified shortcuts etc .

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread Sebastien Bacher
@zzecool: what you mention is a bug in compiz itself, it should not be
happening and is being worked on...

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread Eddie Dunn
The thing you seem to forget, Sebastien, is that the core issue is this:
A hack was introduced that not only changed the default behavior for all users, 
but -- more importantly -- also made it impossible to switch back to the 
desired behavior.

In other words, mucking around with people's configs has already been
done. How about we own up to the mistake and fix it? The only reasonable
way is to revert the ugly hack, and repair the functionality of 'show
windows from all workspaces'. Users will have to update their key
bindings if they don't like that it's working again. It won't take them
more than a minute.

I can also add that I work in a corporate environment and everyone I
know who uses Ubuntu here is -not- happy about the hack.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread Doug McMahon
I guess I'm missing something here  as I don't use 12.04 should likely shut up
Anyway what's the downside to applying the 0.9.7 commit in precise  also 
adjusting scale.xml.in to get desired results.
Did so here on a 12.04 install still hanging around  when creating a new user 
the bindings  actions seemed fine
Super+w picks on current ws
Shift+Alt+up picks on all ws's

As in - 
--- compiz-0.9.7.8+bzr3121.orig/plugins/scale/scale.xml.in
+++ compiz-0.9.7.8+bzr3121/plugins/scale/scale.xml.in
@@ -127,7 +127,7 @@
option name=initiate_key type=key
_shortInitiate Window Picker/_short
_longLayout and start transforming 
windows/_long
-   defaultlt;Shiftgt;lt;Altgt;Up/default
+   defaultlt;Supergt;w/default
/option
option name=initiate_button type=button
_shortInitiate Window Picker/_short
@@ -145,7 +145,7 @@
option name=initiate_all_key type=key
_shortInitiate Window Picker For All 
Windows/_short
_longLayout and start transforming all 
windows/_long
-   defaultlt;Supergt;w/default
+   defaultlt;Shiftgt;lt;Altgt;Up/default
/option
option name=initiate_group_edge type=edge
_shortInitiate Window Picker For Window 
Group/_short

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread Matthias Niess
@seb128: argh. I meant this fixeD everything (for 12.10 that is).

I know it's only one issue per bug report. But the underlying problem is
a single commit and many bugs are connected to fixing this bug correctly
(which has been done for 12.10). This bug produces issues for people who
don't even use scale all. Most corporte users don't use scale all but
they do see the flying windows.

@mc3man: the problem fixing this bug is that if you fix it the default
behavior changes and you can't change the user settings on upgrade. The
only way to do that is ask for user interaction through a notification
(the way it happens when you install Dropbox). That would work but
bothering the user with notifications is unwanted, so it won't happen.

The way I see it this bug is unfixable with the only acceptable solution
apparently being the introduction of a second hack that will (I think)
introduce even more problems for the next dist-upgrade.

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Re: [Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-12 Thread André Desgualdo Pereira
@zzecool I think you are having another bug. My shortcuts settings has been
kept in every update, even with Bruno's great ppa (again many thanks Bruno,
you are awesome).

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-11 Thread Francivan Bezerra
“To fix this bug, it would mean to change the current *default
behavior*.”

OK, so let me see if I got this straight: you mean that on the designers
point of view the *default behavior* is the *broken behavior*?

One word: “unbelievable”.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-11 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Without reading the details of this bug again or forcing an opinion,
everyone please note:

This bug is marked as fix released in Compiz 0.9.8.0. That means the fix
is in Ubuntu 12.10 and later, but not in 12.04.

If you have a problem with the behaviour in 12.10 or later, please log a bug 
using this command:
ubuntu-bug compiz

If you are using 12.04 or earlier, then this is the right place to keep
discussing. As far as I can tell, it's just a matter of Ubuntu distro
policy that default behaviour cannot be changed after release. Even if
it is broken behaviour, which we certainly agree. Remember you're
complaining to developers who want the bug fixed in 12.04 too. But it's
not always our call.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-11 Thread Matthias Niess
I don't see how a corporate environment profits from installing non-LTS
releases or using an obscure PPA (no offense Bruno) to get rid of this
bug. This bug (and the many bugs resulting from the commit that causes
it) makes 12.04 kind of unusable for many people. All options are on the
table. Living with a broken Ubuntu for the next two years can't be the
preferred option.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-11 Thread Doug McMahon
Desired resolution:

- As the change request conflicts with bug #689733 , the current default
behaviour of the spread should not change. Also significant changes to
Ubuntu's default behaviour should not be made in a SRU.

Why this is in the current description makes no sense, that unfortunate
bug targeted the left click on launcher icon   by extension  - 'window
picker for for window *group*', nothing really to do with this.

As far as 12.04 - the fix's 'change in behavior' seems to be  just
surrounding  a default keybinding - super+w, not really qualifying as 
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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-10 Thread p0l0us
One word unbelievable.

I almost stopped using multiple workspaces in ubuntu due this bug
(thanks for bug-fix Bruno). It was really uncomfortable switching
windows without picker from all windows.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-08 Thread drplix
This bug is really bad and ruins the LTS experience.  I've been running
with Bruno's PPA for 6 months - which fixes the problem perfectly - but
I can't imagine what its been like for anyone not technically savvy
enough to use this.

This week I got an official update to compiz which I naively assumed
would mean that this was finally officially fixed.  I was badly wrong -
its now back to being totally broken.  Worse still,  the installed
version supercedes Brunos version number and so I can't go back to his
fix (my system is critical to me so I don't want to muck about with
pinning older versions).

Please someone release the fixed version to the LTS backports - this is
getting beyond the limits of reasonable patience.

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Re: [Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-08 Thread Bruno Santos
Hi guys, I've been using Quantal, so I can't test if the patch still
works.

On the new package version that was released there's a patch reverting
the fix for this bug. I've applied the fix after that patch, let's see
if it builds, and if so you should receive an update on my ppa.

On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 11:26 AM, drplix 933...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
 This bug is really bad and ruins the LTS experience.  I've been running
 with Bruno's PPA for 6 months - which fixes the problem perfectly - but
 I can't imagine what its been like for anyone not technically savvy
 enough to use this.

 This week I got an official update to compiz which I naively assumed
 would mean that this was finally officially fixed.  I was badly wrong -
 its now back to being totally broken.  Worse still,  the installed
 version supercedes Brunos version number and so I can't go back to his
 fix (my system is critical to me so I don't want to muck about with
 pinning older versions).

 Please someone release the fixed version to the LTS backports - this is
 getting beyond the limits of reasonable patience.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-08 Thread drplix
Hi Bruno - thank you!  I just got the update from your PPA and can
confirm that we're back in business!  The bug is fixed again with your
version.

You are a gentleman.  Thank you.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-08 Thread zzecool
Me and my friend was the first to add this bug here and i cant believe
that this one still exist in precise.

Im using quantal long time now so im not having this bug any more but it
is a shame that this is not fixed on LTS and it is fixed in Quantal ..

It is many times that i have the feeling that devs don't give a shit
about  what us normal user asking here.


235 people and almost a year later should have already made some attention to 
the Dev team .

I think we are getting confused between LTS and i don't give a damn, as
long as it isn't security patch we don't update it.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-08 Thread Łukasz Zemczak
Ok, I think this needs some clarification. The bug is not fixed because
no dev had time to do it. It was actually fixed quite a long time ago,
but the fix got reverted. Sadly, bugs like these are really hard to
'fix', because those do not really fit the SRU criteria. Stable releases
can only have SRUable bugs fixed.

To fix this bug, it would mean to change the current *default behavior*.
Fixes like these are unacceptable after Feature Freeze, so pushing a
modification like this to Quantal and Precise is something that would
have to be forced with the design teams and the release teams.

I created a fix (basing my work on what Bruno did), I pushed it to
compiz, but the design team rejected the change, as it is too late to
change the default behavior of keybindings. It's a complicated issue. I
would rather have it fixed as well, but hm, that's not so easy to do
'paper-work' wise...

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Re: [Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-08 Thread Bruno Santos
What I think confuses us is the fact that this default behavior is a
regression on the behavior of the previous version, or else there wouldn't
be all these reports and Quantal would show the same wrong behavior.

I have just been packaging a patch someone was kind to write and provide,
as long as it works with the updated packages I'll  continue to publish it.
This won't be fixed as have been said by various people, maybe we should
just let it go...

Cheers,
Bruno
No dia 8 de Dez de 2012 23:50, Łukasz Zemczak 933...@bugs.launchpad.net
escreveu:

 Ok, I think this needs some clarification. The bug is not fixed because
 no dev had time to do it. It was actually fixed quite a long time ago,
 but the fix got reverted. Sadly, bugs like these are really hard to
 'fix', because those do not really fit the SRU criteria. Stable releases
 can only have SRUable bugs fixed.

 To fix this bug, it would mean to change the current *default behavior*.
 Fixes like these are unacceptable after Feature Freeze, so pushing a
 modification like this to Quantal and Precise is something that would
 have to be forced with the design teams and the release teams.

 I created a fix (basing my work on what Bruno did), I pushed it to
 compiz, but the design team rejected the change, as it is too late to
 change the default behavior of keybindings. It's a complicated issue. I
 would rather have it fixed as well, but hm, that's not so easy to do
 'paper-work' wise...

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-12-08 Thread zzarko
I'm failing to see how is fixing this equvivalent to changing default
behaviour. The problem is, as I understand, that in one moment Scale
plugin's actions Initiate window picker for all windows and Initiate
window picker (for current workspace) became the same - Initiate
window picker (for current workspace). They both behave exactly the
same way.

Instead to bind the shortcut to later action, they CHANGED the former to
behave exactly like the later. The result - an important functionality
is thrown out because it was easier to make Initiate window picker for
all windows behave exactly like Initiate window picker (for current
workspace) , than to just bind the shortcut to Initiate window picker
(for current workspace) and to leave Initiate window picker for all
windows to be used if someone desires. I do not know any other way in
Unity to drag and drop files between windows on different workspaces.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-11-18 Thread Daniel van Vugt
** Changed in: compiz-core
Milestone: 0.9.7.10 = 0.9.7.12

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-11-12 Thread Timo Jyrinki
** Changed in: compiz-core
   Status: Fix Committed = Triaged

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-11-12 Thread Timo Jyrinki
** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu Precise)
   Status: Triaged = Confirmed

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-11-12 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Putting back to Confirmed for 12.04, since the commit in question was
eventually reverted and the problem is more complex in 12.04 than it
would first seem. The bug itself would be fixable, as known, but not
without changing the default behavior for all users which is not wanted.

The desired 12.04 solution of having the default unchanged but adding
two new shortcut keys to GNOME Control Center as described in the bug
description would be otherwise acceptable, but it's tricky and there is
no such work done. The problem as I understand it is that the current
default key combo in 12.04 (but not in 12.10) is bound to the wrong
action, so there would be a upgrade migration mechanism required and it
still might have hard time getting accepted into a stable upgrade in
fear of regressions.

Meanwhile, as this is now not included even in the next precise SRU, I
created a PPA including the next proposed compiz SRU added with this fix
- ppa:timo-jyrinki/compiz-12.04-fix-933776

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-11-12 Thread Matthias Niess
As it currently stands, I'd like to remind you of what I wrote in #122.
Compiz in 12.04 is broken. I get calls on an almost daily basis because
this bug breaks window management. If all that holds us back from
reverting that one commit are changed shortcuts then lets make an
exception.

Sebastien wrote in #123 that you hate those dpkg notifications that
prompt the user to do some actions. But looking at the 3 options we
have, I know which one I'd pick:

1. live with a broken compiz
2. hack compiz to add an extra show all windows option, additionally to the 
existing one, that actually does show all windows so that we don't have to 
change shortcuts (this would be an awefully ugly hack IMO)
3. display a notification on upgrade Due to an upgrade some of your shortcuts 
for window management need to be restored. Please click on 'Restore shortcuts' 
to do that now. (which runs a script to recursively unset the relevant keys, 
or - if you want to get fancy - checks the currently defined shortcuts and sets 
them at the appropriate places).

I really really think we should go with option 3. Do we really want two
initiate window picker on all viewports options?

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-11-11 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~timo-jyrinki/compiz/ubuntu_1204sru

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-10-18 Thread James Heany
This bug finally seems to be fixed with the new 12.10 release. But many
will stick with 12.04 since it is a LTS version. Are there plans to fix
this in 12.04?

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-10-18 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Yes, the fix is scheduled for release in precise compiz 0.9.7.10. I'm
not yet sure when that will be released though.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-10-16 Thread Paulus Esterhazy
This bug has been marked fix released for almost two months now, but
the precise-backports doesn't include a fixed package yet. Any chance we
could get a package for testing at least?

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-10-09 Thread VladimirCZ
update on when the backport to precise (12.04 LTS) will be completed?

Thanks

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-10-01 Thread zouhair
Any update on when the backport to precise (12.04 LTS) will be
completed?

Thanks

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-08-27 Thread Daniel van Vugt
** Changed in: compiz
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-08-23 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package compiz - 1:0.9.8+bzr3319-0ubuntu1

---
compiz (1:0.9.8+bzr3319-0ubuntu1) quantal-proposed; urgency=low

  [ Didier Roche ]
  * debian/patches/ubuntu-config.patch:
- refresh with latest trunk
  * debian/*docs:
- remove the TODO copy now removed upstream
  * debian/compiz-plugins.install:
- install stackswitch, trip plugins
  * debian/rules, debian/control:
- remove the compiz gnome-control-center key sedding through metacity.
  Compiz now directly ships them.
- we do not need metacity-common anymore as a build-dep then
  * debian/compiz-gnome.migrations, debian/control:
- build-dep on dh-migrations and ship gconf - gsettings migration file

  [ Matthieu Baerts (matttbe) ]
  * Update apport hook for python3 ; thanks to Edward Donovan (LP: #1013171)

  [ Timo Jyrinki ]
  * New upstream snapshot.
- Fix Compiz crash in movementWindowOnScreen (LP: #1015151)
- Start window decorator when decor plugin starts (LP: #1014461)
- Fixed: Crash in compiz::wall::movementWindowOnScreen (LP: #1015151)
- Don't waste memory leaving /bin/sh running (LP: #1015422)
- Add reliable detection of the compiz bin directory (LP: #1015898)
- Check if the window would actually paint before painting the shadow,
  since it is possible that another plugin could be inhibiting paint of
  the dock   window. (LP: #1012956)
- Don't insert the window into the server list above the window it was
  created above. (LP: #1008020) (LP: #886605)
- makes compiz enhanced zoom and show mouse plugins considerably
  smoother to use (LP: #930783)
- Don't set decoration contexts on undecorated windows, since that
  might be read later and code will assume the window is decorated when
  it isn't. (LP: #1015593)
- Fix potentially unterminated string leading to an uninitialized memory
  read (LP: #1018302)
- Lift the 31/32 character restriction on key names that was causing so
  many warnings. It's now 1024 characters according to glib. (LP: #1018730)
- Don't print the result of BUILD_DEB. It prevents ccsm et al from
  installing. (LP: #1018916)
- Use the XDamage extension more efficiently (the way it was designed to be
  used). This dramatically reduces CPU usage, reduces wakeups, and
  increases frame rates. It also solves at least one observed performance
  bug (LP: #1007299) and probably several more.
- Do the initial work to get libcompizconfig under test. (LP: #990690)
- Add support for initiating window picker in other than nomal mode. For
  now added only the additional 'All windows' picker (LP: #933776)
  (LP: #955035)
- Fixes (LP: #1018602) : An invalid read when using g_variant_iter_loop.
- Don't allow unbinds of textures kept around for animations in any case,
  not just resizing. (LP: #1016366)
- Wait for the server to finish processing requests before doing a bind
  (LP: #1016367)
- Using the next/previous bindings the wall plugin didn't calculate
  correctly the next workspace when it reaches the begin or the end of a
  row of workspaces, so it didn't jump to the next line. (LP: #904205).
- Added the plug-in Stack Window Switcher converted from git to bzr
  (including full history) to Compiz. (LP: #1012205)
- Added the unsupported, but fully working plug-in workspacenames
- Added the plug-in Trip (LP: #1012213)
- Add extra checks to avoid passing an invalid xid to XGetWindowProperty
  which would result in fatal error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter).
  (LP: #1019337)
- Fix crash LP: #1019337 properly this time.
- Added .convert files (for gsettings-data-convert) and a migration python
  script (best for usage with session-migrations) for migrating some compiz
  settings from gconf to gsettings
- Fix CMake error when USER environment variable is not set (LP: #1023772)
- Avoid severe artifacts and flickering when using LLVMpipe (LP: #1021104)
- Fix build failure due to invalid sed expression (LP: #1023738)
- Generate the CTestFile.cmake using cmake itself (LP: #1024214)
- Avoid random build failures _intltool_update-NOTFOUND: not found
  by verifying intltool-update exists. If not, then fail cmake more
  cleanly with a nice error message telling the user how to install
  it. (LP: #1023742)
- Fixed CompTimerTestCallback.TimerOrder failure on slow
  systems (like valgrind) (LP: #1021139)
- Fix incorrect shell expansion, leading to invalid sed syntax
  (LP: #1029383)
- Install the cmake helper macros and check for them in
  COMPIZ_CMAKE_MODULE_PATH (LP: #1024179)
- Fixed: schemas were getting installed to ${DESTDIR} twice
- Reduced combined filesizes of Compiz' .png resources from 2.2MB to
  1.5MB by re compression of those with Trimage Image Compressor.
- Added test module for the migration script created by 

[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-08-23 Thread Matthias Niess
Looks like this is fixed for quantal. Will the fix be backported to
precise?

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-08-23 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Yes, the backport to precise (compiz 0.9.7) is under way. See the
milestones at the top.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-08-02 Thread Youbantu
Dear all.

I still use the ppa from Bruno (thanks again Bruno!) and all is fine.
I'm just wondering if it is also in the official ubuntu ppa. Is it?
Shall I still wait and until when? Thx for some comments, cheers.

PS: Sorry, the conversations are quite long to read and not easy to
understand at once (I'm not really an expert)

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-27 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~sil2100/compiz/ubuntu_gsettings

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-26 Thread Sebastien Bacher
** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu Precise)
Milestone: ubuntu-12.04.1 = ubuntu-12.04.2

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-25 Thread Łukasz Zemczak
** Branch linked: lp:~sil2100/compiz/change_scale_keybinding

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-13 Thread Matthias Niess
The updated packages in in Timos PPA (0.9.7.8-0ubuntu1.3~test5) don't
fix the bug for me. Neither this bug, nor #955035 are fixed for me.
Super+w only shows current workspace windows and looking in ccms it is
bound to show windows from all workspaces.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-13 Thread Miklos Juhasz
@Mathis: the latest (~test5) packages in Timo's ppa do not have the
patch for this bug and #955035 anymore. I guess Timo is preparing the
SRU and the fix for this bug will probably not make it because it needs
more work (see description of this bug - John Lea added a desired
resolution section).

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Timo Jyrinki
12.04 LTS packages for testing at https://launchpad.net/~timo-
jyrinki/+archive/compiz-precise-sru - please give feedback

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Alan Pope
Woohoo! This is fixed in that PPA from Timo.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Miklos Juhasz
Using Timo's ppa Super+W for spreading all windows works fine here.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Miklos Juhasz
One thing I forgot to double check: Super+W is for spreading all windows
in _all_ workspaces but the Unity shortcut hints overlay shows
Spreading all windows in the _current_ workspace which is Shift+Alt+Up
actually.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Alan Pope
** Also affects: ayatana-design
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Apparently the fix unfortunately still would revert the fix for bug
#689733, so it, as a default behavior change, cannot be included without
design approval :( It could be offered as an optional change in behavior
later on, but not changing the default behavior.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Miklos,

Yes an additional fix is required downstream in Ubuntu as I mentioned in
comment #47:

`This bug will require a fix upstream and downstream...

Upstream: Make sure all windows are shown for the all windows bindings.
Downstream: Move the Super+W shortcut from Initiate Window Picker For All 
Windows into Initiate Window Picker'

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Timo, this fix is correct. Ubuntu's Unity/Compiz is just bound to the
wrong action, as per my previous comments.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Miklos Juhasz
Thanks, Daniel! I must have missed that comment.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Andrei Petcu
The early 12.04 releases (alfa, beta, I don't remember) had the correct
text (all windows, all workspaces). A bug on this issue was reported
and the fix was correcting the documentation and the shortcuts overlay.
This was not a proper fix. This is a design regression bug, it's not a
design change.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Timo, Super+W is bound to the wrong action in:
debian/patches/ubuntu-config.patch

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Sebastien Bacher
changing the ubuntu config is tricky though since we have no good
solution to migrate existant configs, so changing the code would lead to
behaviour changes for those existing profiles ... it might be easier to
add a new function in compiz to do the same thing rather than change the
existing one, it's a bit of an hack but it would allow users to opt in
for the new one without breaking upgrades

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Bruno Santos
Using the current behavior leads to windows flying all over the place,
invisible windows, windows stuck outside of the viewport, etc. I can't
see how anyone can use this in its' current state.

Things were changed for this new behavior, braking the previous behavior
for everyone who used it (it is impossible to show all the windows from
all the desktops). I can't understand how hacking this instead of fixing
the expected behavior is better.

I remember compiz 0.8 was great to use, fast, I don't remember all this
windows drawing artifacts and lag. Maybe I have a bad memory, and the
rewrite was for the better. I have been always against the I'm moving
to distro X naysayers, but I'm reaching my limit, and am tired of being
unable to work because of critical regressions that change the behavior
of the desktop all the time, and linger to be fixed, which is even worse
when there are public patches that lots of people have been using for
ages without known issues.

I fear for the transition to Wayland... :-(

I know, I know, this isn't a forum, and this doesn't help, and whatever,
but I've been happily using Ubuntu for so long, that coming to this is
making me very frustrated and sad, and I believe the more than 200
people reporting having this bug for so long are too.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Sebastien Bacher
@Bruno: please don't confuse things and don't use that bug to complain
about every other issue you might get with compiz

 Using the current behavior leads to windows flying all over the place,
invisible windows, windows stuck outside of the viewport, etc. I can't
see how anyone can use this in its' current state.

I'm using the current version, I've nothing flying all over the place,
no invisible windows, no windows stuck outside of viewports ... those
are all different issues, open new bugs about those they have nothing
with the ticket open there

 Things were changed for this new behavior, braking the previous
behavior for everyone who used it (it is impossible to show all the
windows from all the desktops). I can't understand how hacking this
instead of fixing the expected behavior is better.

Not sure what you are talking about but fixing the one workspace or all
workspace action will fix none of the issues you complain about

 which is even worse when there are public patches that lots of people
have been using for ages without known issues.

where? you mean the patch there which changes the desktop behaviour? the
things you just complained about, being tired of that change the
behavior of the desktop all the time ... now you complain that we want
to keep some stability? if you want some credibility there you get to
pick, do you want things changing all the time and again to fix that
issue or do you want things to keep working in a consistant way?

 I fear for the transition to Wayland... :-(

what has wayland to do with any of this?

 I know, I know, this isn't a forum, and this doesn't help, and
whatever, but I've been happily using Ubuntu for so long, that coming to
this is making me very frustrated and sad, and I believe the more than
200 people reporting having this bug for so long are too.

sorry about that, but you are using work from volunteers there, you are
paying nothing for the product and people do the best to help, it's a
bit easy and unfair to just blame people who work for you on free to not
work enough

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Bruno Santos
I replied to Sebastien privately, I don't want to add more noise to this
bug report.

Please, keep up the good work. ;-)

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Bonzo
Today Ubuntu has pulled new updates on Compiz. I haven't found any
mention to this bug on the changelogs. Can someone confirm tha the bug
is still there (or not) in the new updates?  I think I'll stick to
Bruno's version for a while.

Thanks.

PD: About the discussion in this this thread, I think we do not complain
about Ubuntu devs effort. We appreciate it, of course. We complain about
the priority of this bug (many months old, at least three compiz updates
without fixing it). We think it should be high priority as it affects
our workflow using our sistems on a daily basis. Ubuntu crew do not.
It's not personal, it is just thinks are.

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Re: [Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Bruno Santos
On 12-07-2012 15:43, Bonzo wrote:
 Today Ubuntu has pulled new updates on Compiz. I haven't found any
 mention to this bug on the changelogs. Can someone confirm tha the bug
 is still there (or not) in the new updates?  I think I'll stick to
 Bruno's version for a while.

I think the previous version (in proposed) had this patches:

  [ Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak ]
   * Cherry-pick upstream patches:
 - CMake Error at FindCompiz.cmake:84 (include): include could not 
find load
   file: CompizDefaults (LP: #993608)
 - compiz (decor) - Warn: failed to bind pixmap to texture (LP: #929989)
 - gtk-window-decorator crashed with SIGFPE in
   _decor_blend_horz_border_picture() (LP: #963794)
 - [callgrind] compiz spends ~25% of its time constructing/destructing
   strings in PrivateScreen::handleActionEvent (LP: #1005569)
 - gtk-window-decorator crashed with SIGSEGV in 
meta_get_decoration_geometry
   (LP: #1007754)
 - composite refresh rate falls back to 50Hz, which is wrong in most 
cases
   (LP: #1009338)
 - [callgrind] compiz spends ~7% of its time inserting into and 
destructing
   the events list in PrivateScreen::processEvents() (LP: #1006335)

Then they were reverted in the current version. The patch to this bug 
wasn't included in both. Maybe Łukasz can tell us, if it is decided that 
this patch is viable, if it will be included in the re-release of the 
SRU patches, or a future SRU.

There is another ppa with the same patch I used on mine that also 
includes a few other patches that may be useful for some of you:
https://launchpad.net/~mjuhasz/+archive/backports

Miklos has already built against the current compiz package in proposed, 
and added some patches to unity work with the differences in the 
behavior, as discussed here.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Well, the priority are sorted by what affects most users, we had quite
some bugs which made compiz,unity impossible to use at all or really
slow to use on some hardware (still have some) and that got the priority
over the spread is working by workspace which is an usability issue
but trivial to work around and not breaking anything out of habits... we
will get to those though, almost there, please be patient

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread John Lea
** Description changed:

  [Test Case]
  1. Open few applications on workspace 1
  2. Open a few more applications on workspace 2
  3. Press the shortcut for 'initiate window picker for all windows' (Super+W 
by default)
-- Verify that the scale plugin shows windows from both workspaces, not 
only from one of them
+    - Verify that the scale plugin shows windows from both workspaces, not 
only from one of them
  
  4. To verify, press the shortcut for 'initiate window picker' 
(Shift+Alt+UpArrow by default)
-- Verify that the scale plugin only shows windows from the current 
workspace
+    - Verify that the scale plugin only shows windows from the current 
workspace
  
  [Regression Potential]
  No real regression potential, in the impossible case the scale plugin might 
stop working
  
  Original description:
  
  compiz expo plugin have the option to change the scale plugin behavior
  but that does not work unity Unity..
  
  1. start ccsm, go to scale plugin, go to bindings tab
  2. see 'initiate window picker for all window' is enabled
  
  What happen:
  that setting is being overridden by Unity since super+w only shows windows 
from current workspace.
  
- ProblemType: Bug
- DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
- Package: compiz 1:0.9.7.0~bzr2995-0ubuntu2
- ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-16.25-generic 3.2.6
- Uname: Linux 3.2.0-16-generic x86_64
- NonfreeKernelModules: fglrx
- .tmp.unity.support.test.0:
+ 
+ Desired resolution:
  
- ApportVersion: 1.91-0ubuntu1
- Architecture: amd64
- CompizPlugins: 
[core,bailer,detection,composite,opengl,decor,move,mousepoll,scale,compiztoolbox,imgpng,grid,obs,gnomecompat,place,workarounds,wall,resize,vpswitch,regex,snap,session,expo,ezoom,unityshell]
- CompositorRunning: compiz
- Date: Thu Feb 16 23:20:52 2012
- DistUpgraded: Log time: 2012-02-11 11:37:02.610616
- DistroCodename: precise
- DistroVariant: ubuntu
- DkmsStatus: fglrx-updates, 8.911, 3.2.0-16-generic, x86_64: installed
- GraphicsCard:
-  Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Madison [Mobility Radeon HD 5000 
Series] [1002:68c0] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
-    Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:1c22]
- InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin - Alpha amd64 
(20120210)
- JockeyStatus:
-  xorg:fglrx_updates - ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver (post-release 
updates) (Proprietary, Disabled, Not in use)
-  xorg:fglrx - ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver (Proprietary, 
Disabled, Not in use)
- MachineType: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. N61Ja
- PackageArchitecture: all
- ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-16-generic 
root=UUID=e92c1dca-3eb6-43ed-b0ac-faeaabed4bc9 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
- SourcePackage: compiz
- UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to precise on 2012-02-11 (5 days ago)
- dmi.bios.date: 05/19/2010
- dmi.bios.vendor: American Megatrends Inc.
- dmi.bios.version: N61Ja.211
- dmi.board.asset.tag: ATN12345678901234567
- dmi.board.name: N61Ja
- dmi.board.vendor: ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
- dmi.board.version: 1.0
- dmi.chassis.asset.tag: ATN12345678901234567
- dmi.chassis.type: 10
- dmi.chassis.vendor: ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
- dmi.chassis.version: 1.0
- dmi.modalias: 
dmi:bvnAmericanMegatrendsInc.:bvrN61Ja.211:bd05/19/2010:svnASUSTeKComputerInc.:pnN61Ja:pvr1.0:rvnASUSTeKComputerInc.:rnN61Ja:rvr1.0:cvnASUSTeKComputerInc.:ct10:cvr1.0:
- dmi.product.name: N61Ja
- dmi.product.version: 1.0
- dmi.sys.vendor: ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
- version.compiz: compiz 1:0.9.7.0~bzr2995-0ubuntu2
- version.fglrx-installer: fglrx-installer N/A
- version.ia32-libs: ia32-libs 20090808ubuntu33
- version.libdrm2: libdrm2 2.4.30-1ubuntu1
- version.libgl1-mesa-dri: libgl1-mesa-dri 8.0~rc2-0ubuntu5
- version.libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental: libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental N/A
- version.libgl1-mesa-glx: libgl1-mesa-glx 8.0~rc2-0ubuntu5
- version.xserver-xorg-core: xserver-xorg-core 2:1.11.4-0ubuntu3
- version.xserver-xorg-input-evdev: xserver-xorg-input-evdev 
1:2.6.99.901+git20120126-0ubuntu2
- version.xserver-xorg-video-ati: xserver-xorg-video-ati 
1:6.14.99~git20111219.aacbd629-0ubuntu2
- version.xserver-xorg-video-intel: xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.17.0-1ubuntu4
- version.xserver-xorg-video-nouveau: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 
1:0.0.16+git20111201+b5534a1-1build2
+ - As the change request conflicts with bug #689733 , the current default
+ behaviour of the spread should not change.  Also significant changes to
+ Ubuntu's default behaviour should not be made in a SRU.
+ 
+ - In the medium term this functionality will be replaced by 'The
+ Spread'.  See http://design.canonical.com/2012/03/task-switching-in-
+ ubuntu-and-a-introduction-to-the-spread/ and also
+ http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/unity-task-switching/ for more
+ details.  Please discuss feedback on these designs in the comments of
+ the design blog post linked to above that announced this feature.
+ 
+ - In the short term what we can do is expose this option in 'System
+ Settings / 

[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Matthias Niess
@Sebastien, regarding your lengthy comment at Bruno: I don't want to add
more noise but remind you of an older comment. In comment #88 Daniel
stated that this regression is caused by a single commit that caused
multiple regressions in scale. I have the same issues as Bruno on every
single (vanilla) Ubuntu machine I supervise. Super+w sometimes does send
windows fly all over the place and I do get empty windows a lot.

If this is all caused by one commit, aren't all these regressions
essentially the same bug?

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Doug McMahon
Just a small comment to possibly clear up a previous one

There is a possibility that the very first time scale  all windows from
all ws's is used that instead of going to the scale,  windows will
instead try to leave or come into  the screen, the windows flying all
over..

This doesn't happen all the time  only occurs the *first time used*,
then doesn't return, at least as seen here over the course of maybe 50
installs  scale fixed since last mid-winter.

I have never seen invisible windows in the scale spread based on this
fix, there may have been times during 12.04 dev that that  happened
though I don't believe solely because of fixing scale for this issue.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Matthias Niess
Regarding a mechanism to properly migrate users-settings without hacking new 
stuff into compiz:
There are several packages that trigger a notification that asks the user to do 
stuff. ecryptfs asks the users to write down their passphrases, dropbox asks 
them to restart nautilus.

What about adding that kind of notification just to this particular
update telling the user that some compiz settings have to be reset to
their default value. There could be a button that runs a script which
does a recursive-unset on the relevant keys. I'm pretty sure these
notifications work on a per-user basis, so that multiple users on a
system will all get the message to run the script.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-12 Thread Sebastien Bacher
@Matthias: no, we can fix the issues you mention without making the
scale not being by workspace, bug #955035 seems like the issue you
describe?

 There are several packages that trigger a notification that asks the
user to do stuff.

right, we hate those, users see it as an annoyance, most don't read it
or understand what is written and just click and get their config
changed and then complain, we try to avoid those if we can

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-04 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~timo-jyrinki/compiz/ubuntu

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-02 Thread Łukasz Zemczak
I ask of just a bit of patience here. As I already said, the patch/fix
is ready, but sadly didn't make it to the last SRU due to time deadlines
- due to the new more rigorous rules. But I assure you that this fix
will be present in the next update and the problem will be essentially
fixed once and for all.

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-01 Thread Daniel van Vugt
** Changed in: compiz-core
Milestone: 0.9.7.12 = 0.9.7.10

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-01 Thread Daniel van Vugt
** Tags added: scale

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-01 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:compiz

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-01 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Fix committed into lp:compiz at revision 3271

** Changed in: compiz
   Status: In Progress = Fix Committed

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-01 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Fix committed into lp:compiz-core/0.9.7 at revision 3110

** Changed in: compiz-core
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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-07-01 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:compiz-core/0.9.7

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-06-30 Thread Bonzo
Thanks very much, Bruno.

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Re: [Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-06-30 Thread Bruno Santos
Just uploaded it to the ppa, should build in a few hours. :)

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[Bug 933776] Re: [regression] scale/spread: Initiate Window Picker for All Windows does not show all windows. It shows only windows from curent workspace.

2012-06-30 Thread Bonzo
I have just updated from the PPA. Now scale works again as expected. I
hope Ubuntu devselopers won't give us another broken update in a
while...

Thanks, Bruno.

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