[Bug 1241926] Re: Giant Bug: Cannot run java with a virtual mem limit (ulimit -v)

2015-01-22 Thread Martin Babutzka
Please take this bug serious and report it upstream because whatever is
the technical reason for this Java VM behaviour - it needs to be fixed.

Running a usual remote multi-user x86-64 Linux machine I can confirm
this GIANT bug and provide additional information:

- This bug applies to all Java versions I tested so far (OpenJDK 6-8,
Oracle Java 6-8). The consequences of the bug are excessive and posted
several times on the web without a reasonable reaction (e.g.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510344) - except telling the
people to provide an artificial memory limit to java directly via -Xmx.

- The bug occurs when the virtual memory limit (ulimit -v) is set below
30% of the total memory available on the system. On large servers the
required minimum memory limit becomes huge(!)

- This bug happens with even the simplest java programs among them are
the execution of java -version or the Hello World example from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_%28programming_language%29 .

Example (Server has 48 GB memory):
 ulimit -v 16777216
 java -version
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.5.3) (7u71-2.5.3-0ubuntu0.14.04.1)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.65-b04, mixed mode)

 ulimit -v 1200
 java -version
Error occurred during initialization of VM
Could not reserve enough space for object heap
Error: Could not create the Java Virtual Machine.
Error: A fatal exception has occurred. Program will exit.

 java -Xmx2m -version
java version 1.7.0_65
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.5.3) (7u71-2.5.3-0ubuntu0.14.04.1)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.65-b04, mixed mode)
-- java -version should run with 2 MB of virtual memory.

Its amazing! Java can't even allocate 12 GB of RAM in the time it needs
to put out the out of memory error. I am really curious how it finds the
limit so fast to crash. Java can therefore be not executed normally
(without -Xmx) on any machine with a reasonable memory limit for users!
This behaviour leads to many subsequent bugs in java-software (e.g.
eclipse) that I found on the web.

Everyone knows that java is kind of a slow and crappy language but thats
not an argument to allow the Java VM to crash if the Helloworld example
can not reserve 15 GB of memory on a larger server(!) I have no idea how
this bug could survive for that long.

** Bug watch added: Red Hat Bugzilla #510344
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510344

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[Bug 1241926] Re: Giant Bug: Cannot run java with a virtual mem limit (ulimit -v)

2015-01-22 Thread Martin Babutzka
** Summary changed:

- Cannot run java with a uliimt of 2GB virtual memory
+ Giant Bug: Cannot run java with a virtual mem limit (ulimit -v)

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[Bug 1241926] Re: Giant Bug: Cannot run java with a virtual mem limit (ulimit -v)

2015-01-22 Thread Martin Babutzka
* I wanted to add that I dont want to ultimatively blame Java for this.
There is aweseome software out there written in Java. But this VM
behavior really did cost me a lot of time and nerves.

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