[Bug 1621378] Re: console-conf should tell the user that the keyboard is US only

2017-09-20 Thread Michael Hudson-Doyle
** Package changed: subiquity (Ubuntu) => subiquity

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[Bug 1621378] Re: console-conf should tell the user that the keyboard is US only

2016-09-23 Thread Oliver Grawert
well, all we actually need is the loadkeys binary and the keymaps from
console-data after all ... and a sane subprocess invocation in python to
call loadkeys with the right keymap file.

this should not be rocket science but sadly the overhead that console-
setup and keyboard-configuration add on top (for bringing xorg in sync
with the console etc etc) kind of makes it such which is why i'd like us
to go with something way smaller here.

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[Bug 1621378] Re: console-conf should tell the user that the keyboard is US only

2016-09-23 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
Indeed, it's better to leave this as a list. We *do* have some existing
logic for detection, should we want to use it (it's in d-i's console-
setup), but it's probably simpler to list locales.

Using console-setup (well, keyboard-configuration) is one thing, but it
will still need a lot of massaging to get it to python, and to remove
years of migration cruft.

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[Bug 1621378] Re: console-conf should tell the user that the keyboard is US only

2016-09-23 Thread Oliver Grawert
i'd vote for a list, though i'd pretty much like to rip this out again
and come up with something that does not grow the image by 10% via
pulling in a ton of dependencies.

i.e. as we discussed on IRC we should rather use the cut down bits from the d-i 
keyboard configuration udeb. 
especially in the light that we do all this on a system where you can never 
actually use the local keyboard apart from typing in this one line with an 
email address.

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[Bug 1621378] Re: console-conf should tell the user that the keyboard is US only

2016-09-22 Thread Seth Arnold
There are risks with "to the left of the spacebar" even for people who
think they are using US keyboard layouts: http://www.kinesis-ergo.com
/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/adv2-main-marquee-slide.jpg  :)

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[Bug 1621378] Re: console-conf should tell the user that the keyboard is US only

2016-09-22 Thread Michael Hudson-Doyle
So I think edge ubuntu-core has the keyboard config files required. Now
what? I know nothing about how this sort of thing works (any advice for
documentation?).

Do we want to just present a list of layouts? Do the ubiquity style
"press the key to the left of the space bar" guessing?

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[Bug 1621378] Re: console-conf should tell the user that the keyboard is US only

2016-09-20 Thread Oliver Grawert
well, dont forget that there is no local user at all ... you can not log
in locally on these images, only via ssh (which will use the host
keymap) ...

if we can ship keymap input data and generate the right one on the fly
without having to grow the image/ubuntu-core by megabytes, lets do it
... but if we would need to put localization back in, i'd veto this and
just go with a note ...

(do we actually allow usernames that need special chars in the store ?)

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[Bug 1621378] Re: console-conf should tell the user that the keyboard is US only

2016-09-20 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
Should it be done as a notice that the only supported keymap is US
english, or should we spend time to implement a proper keymap selection
process and applying the keymap?

How important is this feature relative to others?

I think there is no question that we can't only expect the world to use
the US-English keymaps and that only ever on Ubuntu Core (and being
french canadian I have my own preferences this would clash with too);
but we need to figure out what is the best way to go about handling this
in console-conf -- notice that the configuration here is us-eng only
(which seems suboptimal), or implement a complete keymaps selection
interface, and figure out a way to ship the relevant localization data
in the core snap or elsewhere?

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[Bug 1621378] Re: console-conf should tell the user that the keyboard is US only

2016-09-20 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: subiquity (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 1621378] Re: console-conf should tell the user that the keyboard is US only

2016-09-09 Thread Oliver Grawert
we invested quite some time to get rid of all i18n on these images to
make them as small as possible ... so hopefully this wont come back
(after all the embedded images are not typically used constantly by
endusers but drive some embedded system instead ... we should have the
ability to ship i18n stuff via additional snaps though, for people
wanting that)

i'm not really sure about the wording either ...

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[Bug 1621378] Re: console-conf should tell the user that the keyboard is US only

2016-09-08 Thread Michael Hudson-Doyle
Can you suggest some wording? I'd assumed that some kind of i18n would
eventually get done but maybe not if there no support for different
keyboards...

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