[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[Tero Gusto]

So, https://help.launchpad.net/HelpOnFormatting says that the MoinMoin
wiki syntax is supported, which it is evidently not, so here's the code
bit from my post, cleaned up:

[...] this experiment, which worked well:

mkdir ~/.templates
touch ~/.templates/document.txt

Edit relevant bit in ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs:

XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR="$HOME/.templates"

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[Tero Gusto]

This still (surprisingly) seems to be an issue in Ubuntu 22.04 ...

Perhaps Ubuntu could add support for having the templates in a hidden
folder such as `~/.templates`, and ship it just a single empty file, as
a starting example? I just tried this experiment, which worked well:

`mkdir ~/.templates`
`touch ~/.templates/document.txt`

Edit relevant bit in `~/.config/user-dirs.dirs`:

`XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR="$HOME/.templates"`

I was able to right-click in a folder and given a "New Document >
document" option.

(Comment also added in Gitlab issue #407 mentioned by 林博仁 (Buo-ren, Lin)
on 2018-05-06 above)

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[Norbert]

** Tags removed: artful zesty

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[Hans Deragon]

Adding templates file to ~/Templates works for Nautilus
1:3.36.3-0ubuntu1 (Ubuntu 20.04), but the right context menu is not
available if one has no more empty space left in the window to right
click (say when you display a directory with 50+ files in it).

My comment suggest probably another bug report, but I could not find one
searching the web regarding this issue.  If you know of such bug report,
please provide the link.  I am reporting this problem here since it is
related and causes a discovery problem too if it is impossible to access
the right click dialog box.

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[MadsRH]

I'll add my frustration here as well and possibly a solution.

I think we all agree that this is a basic feature and removing it
results in a horrible user experience. The key here is IMHO the lack of
discoverability. I wouldn't call myself a beginner user and yet I had no
idea that the disappearing "New document" in the contextmenu was related
to the Template folder.

Anyway, I’ll be sad to see yet another LTS shipped where this isn’t fix,
so what do you think about this simple solution:

If the Templates folder is empty, a submenu entry is added in the
contextmenu, which simply is a link to the Template folder. And ofc as
soon as you put something in the Template folder, the user sees only
that in the submenu. We already have a help text inside the folder and a
"learn more..." link.

It’s not ideal, but it increases discoverability which is key here.
What do you think?

This would need to be a patch since upstream don't want it :/

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[Charlie Daly]

The workaround as suggested by Steve G and others is not very
satisfactory because the first thing that you want to do after creating
a new document is change the name. Previously, after creating the
document you were immediately in a text field so that you could change
the name. Using the workaround, you have to select the document and
select that you are changing the name before entering the name. It is
pointless extra work.

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

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** Changed in: nautilus
   Status: Unknown => Invalid

** Changed in: nautilus
   Importance: Unknown => Wishlist

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

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Add (old) bug report

** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #687139
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=687139

** Changed in: nautilus
   Importance: Undecided => Unknown

** Changed in: nautilus
   Status: New => Unknown

** Changed in: nautilus
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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[林博仁]

According to the upstream developer the feature *does* exist, but has a
prerequisite requirement that the user's template folder must have at
least one template file in order to make the "New Document" submenu
appear.

The upstream report has been updated to make Files preserve the same
behavior as with the previous implementation in Ubuntu.

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[林博仁]

I have filed the bug to GNOME upstream:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/issues/407

Unfortunately currently Launchpad doesn't support GitLab issues so it
can't be directly linked to this bug report.

** Also affects: nautilus
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[林博仁]

Affected to Ubuntu 18.04 as well, it's weird such basic feature doesn't
exist in upstream GNOME in the first place...

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[Norbert]

If this will continu, most users who want to work comfortably will be
forced to migrate to another file manager (as Caja in MATE DE - old good
Nautilus successor).

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[michaelcole]

This post may or may not be true, but the workaround seems to be `sudo
apt install nemo` and to use nemo instead.

https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/ubuntu-18-04-lts-will-ship-older-
version-nautilus

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[michaelcole]

This is such a basic feature, how can it possibly take 2 years to accept
a patch?  I just want to make a new text file.  What is this "Templates"
folder for if not this?

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

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This bug has been reported on the Ubuntu Package testing tracker.

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** Tags added: package-qa-testing

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[Jeremy Bicha]

** Tags removed: rls-y-incoming yakkety
** Tags added: artful bionic zesty

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[Shuhao]

This seems to affect 17.10

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Re: [Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[Robert Orzanna]

Wow!

Will this ever be backported to Ubuntu 16.10?

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 3:51 PM Jeremy Bicha  wrote:

> ** Description changed:
>
>   Ubuntu has a patch ( 16_unity_new_documents.patch ) to enable a 'New
>   Document' function in the right-click context menu. This patch was not
>   ported to Nautilus 3.20 so this Ubuntu-specific feature is missing in
>   Ubuntu 16.10.
> +
> + https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-
> +
> desktop/nautilus/ubuntu/view/head:/debian/patches/16_unity_new_documents.patch
>
>   While this patch being disabled is noted in the debian/changelog, here's
>   a formal bug to document the issue and maybe give it a bit more
>   visibility so that it will be fixed.
>
>   ProblemType: Bug
>   DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.10
>   Package: nautilus 1:3.20.3-1ubuntu3
>   ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.8.0-17.19-generic 4.8.0-rc7
>   Uname: Linux 4.8.0-17-generic x86_64
>   ApportVersion: 2.20.3-0ubuntu7
>   Architecture: amd64
>   CurrentDesktop: GNOME
>   Date: Mon Oct 10 12:54:50 2016
>   EcryptfsInUse: Yes
>   GsettingsChanges:
> -  b'org.gnome.nautilus.preferences' b'open-folder-on-dnd-hover' b'false'
> -  b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'sidebar-width' b'171'
> -  b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'geometry' b"'1106x542+436+438'"
> -  b'org.gnome.nautilus.icon-view' b'default-zoom-level' b"'small'"
> +  b'org.gnome.nautilus.preferences' b'open-folder-on-dnd-hover' b'false'
> +  b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'sidebar-width' b'171'
> +  b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'geometry' b"'1106x542+436+438'"
> +  b'org.gnome.nautilus.icon-view' b'default-zoom-level' b"'small'"
>   InstallationDate: Installed on 2016-08-11 (59 days ago)
>   InstallationMedia: Ubuntu-GNOME 16.10 "Yakkety Yak" - Alpha amd64
> (20160811)
>   SourcePackage: nautilus
>   UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
>   usr_lib_nautilus: gnome-terminal 3.20.2-1ubuntu5
>
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> Title:
>   New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+
>
> Status in nautilus package in Ubuntu:
>   Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
>   Ubuntu has a patch ( 16_unity_new_documents.patch ) to enable a 'New
>   Document' function in the right-click context menu. This patch was not
>   ported to Nautilus 3.20 so this Ubuntu-specific feature is missing in
>   Ubuntu 16.10.
>
>   https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-
>
> desktop/nautilus/ubuntu/view/head:/debian/patches/16_unity_new_documents.patch
>
>   While this patch being disabled is noted in the debian/changelog,
>   here's a formal bug to document the issue and maybe give it a bit more
>   visibility so that it will be fixed.
>
>   ProblemType: Bug
>   DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.10
>   Package: nautilus 1:3.20.3-1ubuntu3
>   ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.8.0-17.19-generic 4.8.0-rc7
>   Uname: Linux 4.8.0-17-generic x86_64
>   ApportVersion: 2.20.3-0ubuntu7
>   Architecture: amd64
>   CurrentDesktop: GNOME
>   Date: Mon Oct 10 12:54:50 2016
>   EcryptfsInUse: Yes
>   GsettingsChanges:
>b'org.gnome.nautilus.preferences' b'open-folder-on-dnd-hover' b'false'
>b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'sidebar-width' b'171'
>b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'geometry' b"'1106x542+436+438'"
>b'org.gnome.nautilus.icon-view' b'default-zoom-level' b"'small'"
>   InstallationDate: Installed on 2016-08-11 (59 days ago)
>   InstallationMedia: Ubuntu-GNOME 16.10 "Yakkety Yak" - Alpha amd64
> (20160811)
>   SourcePackage: nautilus
>   UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
>   usr_lib_nautilus: gnome-terminal 3.20.2-1ubuntu5
>
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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[Jeremy Bicha]

** Description changed:

  Ubuntu has a patch ( 16_unity_new_documents.patch ) to enable a 'New
  Document' function in the right-click context menu. This patch was not
  ported to Nautilus 3.20 so this Ubuntu-specific feature is missing in
  Ubuntu 16.10.
+ 
+ https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-
+ desktop/nautilus/ubuntu/view/head:/debian/patches/16_unity_new_documents.patch
  
  While this patch being disabled is noted in the debian/changelog, here's
  a formal bug to document the issue and maybe give it a bit more
  visibility so that it will be fixed.
  
  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.10
  Package: nautilus 1:3.20.3-1ubuntu3
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.8.0-17.19-generic 4.8.0-rc7
  Uname: Linux 4.8.0-17-generic x86_64
  ApportVersion: 2.20.3-0ubuntu7
  Architecture: amd64
  CurrentDesktop: GNOME
  Date: Mon Oct 10 12:54:50 2016
  EcryptfsInUse: Yes
  GsettingsChanges:
-  b'org.gnome.nautilus.preferences' b'open-folder-on-dnd-hover' b'false'
-  b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'sidebar-width' b'171'
-  b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'geometry' b"'1106x542+436+438'"
-  b'org.gnome.nautilus.icon-view' b'default-zoom-level' b"'small'"
+  b'org.gnome.nautilus.preferences' b'open-folder-on-dnd-hover' b'false'
+  b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'sidebar-width' b'171'
+  b'org.gnome.nautilus.window-state' b'geometry' b"'1106x542+436+438'"
+  b'org.gnome.nautilus.icon-view' b'default-zoom-level' b"'small'"
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2016-08-11 (59 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu-GNOME 16.10 "Yakkety Yak" - Alpha amd64 (20160811)
  SourcePackage: nautilus
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
  usr_lib_nautilus: gnome-terminal 3.20.2-1ubuntu5

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[astroscion]

Same problem than in comment #10, but trying to reset the ~/.config (e.g. 
http://www.linuxslaves.com/2016/05/fix-ubuntu-no-icons-panels-launcher-except-background.html)
 seems to fix the problem for me.
No more investigations...

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[Jacek Sroka]

Placing files in ~/Templates directory does not work. What to do?

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[Robert Orzanna]

@stefg-bz,

I created an empty file named "empty" in ~/Templates but I still don't
have the context menu entry.

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

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** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Low

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

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To have the "New Document" menu item back in the mean time, just add an
empty file named "empty" for example in ~/Templates.

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[Jeremy Bicha]

Bronson, this bug is only about the "New Document" feature. I don't
think any of the other stuff you mentioned is directly related to this
issue. Please file a separate bug for each separate issue. That will
make it much easier to see the status of a specific issue.

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

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Ah one other frustrating feature is the way the new pop-ups in nautilus occur 
when a file transfer or action happens and finish. 
There needs to be a way to turn these off and disable them completely!

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

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and the 16.10 version of the same view is unreadable

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[BronsonMathews]

ops these were supposed to be part of my other bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1634334

oh well, they're all related.

Ive tried to install nemo as a replacement in the meantime till this is
fixed...

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[BronsonMathews]

also noticed other things seem weird such as
- shortcut keys are always showing in right click menu (no way to disable this 
either!)
- The dividers seem very visually awkward now in the right click menu, on 16.04 
is was very flat, now on 16.10 its very deep and gouging to look at.

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

[BronsonMathews]

ok ive added a screenshot showing the weird spacing issue thats
happening on nautilus 16.10. The icons have all get crushed up together
making this view useless

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[Bug 1632027] Re: New Document feature missing from Nautilus 3.20+

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Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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