[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
Then should the version in xenial-proposed be deleted? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
** Tags removed: verification-needed verification-needed-xenial ** Tags added: verification-done-xenial -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
This bug was fixed in the package unattended-upgrades - 0.90ubuntu0.10 --- unattended-upgrades (0.90ubuntu0.10) xenial-security; urgency=medium * No change rebuild in the -security pocket (See LP #1686470) -- Marc Deslauriers Fri, 18 Jan 2019 13:34:27 -0500 ** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Xenial) Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
Indeed, this bug was referenced by accident. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
Yes. There is a follow-up unattended-upgrades SRU happening to xenial to get its behavior more in-line with bionic and above, and it seems its changelog has some overbroad bug references by virtue of being a wholesale backport. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
Wasn't this already verified by Dimitri on 2017-08-01? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
Hello Dimitri, or anyone else affected, Accepted unattended-upgrades into xenial-proposed. The package will build now and be available at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source /unattended-upgrades/1.1ubuntu1.18.04.7~16.04.0 in a few hours, and then in the -proposed repository. Please help us by testing this new package. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation on how to enable and use -proposed. Your feedback will aid us getting this update out to other Ubuntu users. If this package fixes the bug for you, please add a comment to this bug, mentioning the version of the package you tested and change the tag from verification-needed-xenial to verification-done-xenial. If it does not fix the bug for you, please add a comment stating that, and change the tag to verification-failed-xenial. In either case, without details of your testing we will not be able to proceed. Further information regarding the verification process can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/PerformingSRUVerification . Thank you in advance for helping! N.B. The updated package will be released to -updates after the bug(s) fixed by this package have been verified and the package has been in -proposed for a minimum of 7 days. ** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Xenial) Status: Fix Released => Fix Committed ** Tags removed: verification-done-xenial ** Tags added: verification-needed verification-needed-xenial -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
** Tags added: id-597a831a26eaec02914e6202 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
This bug was fixed in the package apt - 1.4.6~17.04.1 --- apt (1.4.6~17.04.1) zesty; urgency=medium * apt.systemd.daily: Do not pass -d to unattended-upgrade for the download job. This actually enables debugging. Instead check if unattended-upgrade supports an option --download-only (which is yet to be implemented) and use that (Closes: #863859) apt (1.4.5) unstable; urgency=medium * Fix parsing of or groups in build-deps with ignored packages (LP: #1694697) apt (1.4.4) unstable; urgency=medium [ Alan Jenkins ] * apt.systemd.daily: fix error from locking code (Closes: #862567) apt (1.4.3) unstable; urgency=medium [ Julian Andres Klode ] * Do not try to (re)start timers outside 'apt' package (Closes: #862001) [ Miroslav Kure ] * Updated Czech translation of apt (Closes: #861943) apt (1.4.2) unstable; urgency=medium [ Julian Andres Klode ] * Run unattended-upgrade -d in download part * apt.systemd.daily: Add locking * Split apt-daily timer into two (LP: #1686470) [ Matt Kraai ] * bash-completion: Fix spelling of autoclean (Closes: #861846) apt (1.4.1) unstable; urgency=medium [ Julian Andres Klode ] * systemd: Rework timing and add After=network-online (LP: #1615482) * debian/rules: Actually invoke dh_clean in override_dh_clean [ Unit 193 ] * apt-ftparchive: Support '.ddeb' dbgsym packages -- Julian Andres Klode Thu, 01 Jun 2017 10:50:26 +0200 ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu Zesty) Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released ** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Zesty) Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
This bug was fixed in the package unattended-upgrades - 0.93.1ubuntu2.3 --- unattended-upgrades (0.93.1ubuntu2.3) zesty; urgency=medium * Cherry-pick 2e5deed, f26edb4 from upstream to add support for a --download-only option, enabling us to download updates at a random time of day by default but apply them predictably in the 6am-7am window. LP: #1686470. -- Steve Langasek Mon, 31 Jul 2017 12:40:12 -0700 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
Test of 0.93.1ubuntu2.3 & 1.4.6~17.04.1 together are fine. please release the two together. @mikini - it is prudent from OS vendor point of view to enable and install security updates by default, as most users neglect to set it up themselves. unattanded-upgrades is one way to do this, but it is an optional component of the system and many users use other means to keep their systems secure. The constraints on randomising downloads is due to mirror load spikes. The constraint on consistent and predicable application of updates is due to unexpected behavior experienced by our user base when random application of updates was in place. Overall it is a sensible default. We do monitor crash and error rates, and that data suggests to us that people routinely postpone upgrades or delay them. As for key crashes we reach 90% of updates applied within 2 weeks. Thus defaults to apply updates within a day are sensible. Please note that adjusting .timer frequency alone will not be sufficient as apt has its own internal timestamps too which throttle unattanded upgrades. If you want full control of upgrades do execute / automate them in a manner that is appropriate for your deployment. There is nothing in place that would prevent you from doing that. Many people use other mechanisms for upgrades, e.g. landscape. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
** Tags removed: verification-needed-zesty ** Tags added: verification-done-zesty -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
** Tags removed: verification-done -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
Sorry, apt 1.2.24 was not a SRU so the point about it being unattended is not valid, others are. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
An annoyance about this change is that it reuses the apt-daily.timer for only download and lets the upgrade be triggered by a new apt-daily- upgrade.timer. Systems using apt <1.2.24 which were sensitive to the upgrade point of time would typically have overridden the apt-daily.timer to happen at a fixed time. After upgrade to apt 1.2.24 those systems would still have apt-daily.timer run at the time chosen by the administrator but triggering /usr/lib/apt/apt.systemd.daily update to download packages would make it bail out (as the unattended-upgrades 0.90-ubuntu0.7 which introduced the --download-only option is not a SRU). But upgrades, and effectively also download until a manual upgrade of unattended-upgrades, would happen at the default apt-daily-upgrade.timer time (06:00+random(60m)). Security updates that warps carefully scheduled and important system events like this leaves the impression that administrators are not in control of their machines. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Debian) Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
** Tags removed: verification-needed verification-needed-xenial ** Tags added: verification-done verification-done-xenial -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
This bug was fixed in the package unattended-upgrades - 0.90ubuntu0.7 --- unattended-upgrades (0.90ubuntu0.7) xenial; urgency=medium * Cherry-pick 2e5deed, f26edb4 from upstream to add support for a --download-only option, enabling us to download updates at a random time of day by default but apply them predictably in the 6am-7am window. LP: #1686470. -- Steve Langasek Mon, 31 Jul 2017 12:34:37 -0700 ** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Xenial) Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
The update & upgrade jobs did not start on boot, but this is not a regression compared with current xenial. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
started xenial container, and downgraded systemd to release pocket version. check timer units, only apt-daily is present. upgraded to apt from -updatees 1.2.24. enabled -proposed and installed unattended-upgrades from it, 0.90ubuntu0.7 two .timer units are present: apt-daily.timer random, and apt-daily- upgrade.timer between 6am and 7am. clearing /var/lib/apt/periodic $ systemctl start --no-block apt-daily.service; watch -d ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ Observed that systemd debs got downloaded in /var/cache/apt/archives. Observed that unattened-upgrades.log has entreis that it did run, but does not list that it has upgraded anything. $ tail -f /var/log/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrades.log & $ systemctl start --no-block apt-daily-upgrade.service Observed that install of the packages started straight away, specially the timestamps in the -dpkg.log of the unattended upgrades. I believe above validates that apt-daily.timer updates cache and download debs; whilst apt-daily-upgrade.timer installs the debs. Xenial verification is complete. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
This bug was fixed in the package unattended-upgrades - 0.93.1ubuntu8 --- unattended-upgrades (0.93.1ubuntu8) artful; urgency=medium [ Steve Langasek ] * Cherry-pick 2e5deed, f26edb4 from upstream to add support for a --download-only option, enabling us to download updates at a random time of day by default but apply them predictably in the 6am-7am window. LP: #1686470. -- Dimitri John Ledkov Mon, 31 Jul 2017 23:28:38 +0100 ** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Artful) Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
Hello Dimitri, or anyone else affected, Accepted unattended-upgrades into xenial-proposed. The package will build now and be available at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source /unattended-upgrades/0.90ubuntu0.7 in a few hours, and then in the -proposed repository. Please help us by testing this new package. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation on how to enable and use -proposed.Your feedback will aid us getting this update out to other Ubuntu users. If this package fixes the bug for you, please add a comment to this bug, mentioning the version of the package you tested and change the tag from verification-needed-xenial to verification-done-xenial. If it does not fix the bug for you, please add a comment stating that, and change the tag to verification-failed-xenial. In either case, details of your testing will help us make a better decision. Further information regarding the verification process can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/PerformingSRUVerification . Thank you in advance! ** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Xenial) Status: In Progress => Fix Committed ** Tags removed: verification-done verification-done-xenial ** Tags added: verification-needed verification-needed-xenial ** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Artful) Status: Triaged => Fix Committed ** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Zesty) Status: In Progress => Fix Committed ** Tags added: verification-needed-zesty -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
** Description changed: [ Impact ] * unattended-upgrades are enabled by default in Ubuntu 16.04 and later * Currently the following three things happen as a monolithic event: - metadata updates: apt update - download of updates: apt upgrade --download-only - application of updates: apt upgrade * For the long running instances, all of the above happens at random times throughout the day. * If systems were poweredoff / suspended, this happens on boot / resume * End-users would like to have predictable timing, and control over when the updates happen. Considering all of the above, the following new behavior is proposed which should address all concerns in question. It combines all the desired properties from both end-user and mirror perspectives. [ Proposed Default Behavior ] * Decouple unattended-upgrades application, from apt update * apt update: - shall be a systemd timer based unit, triggered every 12h with a random delay of 12h, therefore executed randomly twice a day. - if unattened-upgrades (default on), or download-upgreadaeble-packages are enabled, it should result in updates being downloaded aka `apt upgrade --download-only` * unattended-upgrades: - shall be a separate systemd timer based unit triggered at 6am local time with a random delay of 1h, therefore executed between 6am and 7am local time. * On boot / resume: - if we have missed one, or more, apt update timers, apt update / download upgrades / unattended-upgrade will happen in sequence. This may result in mirror spikes, but we do want to secure cold/stale-booted systems as soon as possible. [Test Case] * Run system for more than 24h, and check that apt updates were automatically executed twice. * Check that unattended upgrades were triggered to be applied at 6am..7am window, if any. * Poweroff the machine over the period when apt-get update was scheduled, poweron and observe that apt-get update / download / unattended upgrade are all performed on boot. - * Downgrade systemd to the release version of the package (from --security). Then run 'sudo systemctl start apt-daily.service'. -Confirm that the systemd package is re-upgraded. + * Downgrade systemd to the release version of the package (from + -security). Remove apt periodic stamp files rm /var/lib/apt/periodic/*. +Then run 'sudo systemctl start apt-daily.service'. + Confirm that the systemd package is downloaded, but not upgraded. [Regression Potential] * The newly proposed behavior is a mix of Pre-xenial behavior of "do everything at 6am..6:30am window" and the xenial+ behavior of "do everything at random times throughout the day". If there are specific deployments that rely on the previous types of behaviour they will be able to adjust manually the systemd timers with the overrides to be executed exactly as they wish; or match the .0 release behaviour that they prefer. * If timers behavior is coded wrongly the proposed behaviour might not be executed as intended, thus requiring further SRUs to bring us in-line with the great expectations. [Other Info] * Related bug reports and history: - bug #1615482 - bug #1554848 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
** Description changed: [ Impact ] * unattended-upgrades are enabled by default in Ubuntu 16.04 and later * Currently the following three things happen as a monolithic event: - metadata updates: apt update - download of updates: apt upgrade --download-only - application of updates: apt upgrade * For the long running instances, all of the above happens at random times throughout the day. * If systems were poweredoff / suspended, this happens on boot / resume * End-users would like to have predictable timing, and control over when the updates happen. Considering all of the above, the following new behavior is proposed which should address all concerns in question. It combines all the desired properties from both end-user and mirror perspectives. [ Proposed Default Behavior ] * Decouple unattended-upgrades application, from apt update * apt update: - shall be a systemd timer based unit, triggered every 12h with a random delay of 12h, therefore executed randomly twice a day. - if unattened-upgrades (default on), or download-upgreadaeble-packages are enabled, it should result in updates being downloaded aka `apt upgrade --download-only` * unattended-upgrades: - shall be a separate systemd timer based unit triggered at 6am local time with a random delay of 1h, therefore executed between 6am and 7am local time. * On boot / resume: - if we have missed one, or more, apt update timers, apt update / download upgrades / unattended-upgrade will happen in sequence. This may result in mirror spikes, but we do want to secure cold/stale-booted systems as soon as possible. [Test Case] * Run system for more than 24h, and check that apt updates were automatically executed twice. * Check that unattended upgrades were triggered to be applied at 6am..7am window, if any. * Poweroff the machine over the period when apt-get update was - scheduled, poweron and observe that apt-get update / download / -unattended upgrade are all performed on boot. + scheduled, poweron and observe that apt-get update / download / + unattended upgrade are all performed on boot. + + * Downgrade systemd to the release version of the package (from +-security). Then run 'sudo systemctl start apt-daily.service'. +Confirm that the systemd package is re-upgraded. [Regression Potential] * The newly proposed behavior is a mix of Pre-xenial behavior of "do - everything at 6am..6:30am window" and the xenial+ behavior of "do -everything at random times throughout the day". If there are specific -deployments that rely on the previous types of behaviour they will be -able to adjust manually the systemd timers with the overrides to be -executed exactly as they wish; or match the .0 release behaviour that -they preffer. + everything at 6am..6:30am window" and the xenial+ behavior of "do + everything at random times throughout the day". If there are specific + deployments that rely on the previous types of behaviour they will be + able to adjust manually the systemd timers with the overrides to be + executed exactly as they wish; or match the .0 release behaviour that + they prefer. * If timers behavior is coded wrongly the proposed behaviour might not be executed as intended, thus requiring further SRUs to bring us in-line with the great expectations. [Other Info] * Related bug reports and history: - bug #1615482 - bug #1554848 ** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Xenial) Status: Triaged => In Progress ** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Xenial) Assignee: Dimitri John Ledkov (xnox) => Steve Langasek (vorlon) ** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Zesty) Status: Triaged => In Progress ** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Zesty) Assignee: Dimitri John Ledkov (xnox) => Steve Langasek (vorlon) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
Landing the apt piece of this without the unattended-upgrades piece has regressed the around-the-clock distribution of unattended-upgrades downloads (which is enabled by default for security updates in 16.04). The plan is to follow up with unattended-upgrades SRU today to get this all landed before 16.04.3 so that the point release images are in a coherent state. apt must also declare a versioned Breaks: against versions of unattended-upgrades that don't implement --download-only. Otherwise, the infrastructure consequences of a future apt update published to the security pocket without a matching unattended-upgrades update would be severe. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
This bug was fixed in the package apt - 1.2.24 --- apt (1.2.24) xenial; urgency=medium * Microrelease covering fixes of 1.4.6 * Fix parsing of or groups in build-deps with ignored packages (LP: #1694697) * apt.systemd.daily: Use unattended-ugrade --download-only if available. Instead of passing -d, which enables a debugging mode; check if unattended-upgrade supports an option --download-only (which is yet to be implemented) and use that (Closes: #863859) apt (1.2.23) xenial; urgency=medium * Microrelease covering fixes of 1.4.4 [ Alan Jenkins ] * apt.systemd.daily: fix error from locking code (Closes: #862567) apt (1.2.22) xenial; urgency=medium [ Julian Andres Klode ] * Run unattended-upgrade -d in download part * apt.systemd.daily: Add locking * Split apt-daily timer into two (LP: #1686470) [ Matt Kraai ] * bash-completion: Fix spelling of autoclean (Closes: #861846) apt (1.2.21) xenial; urgency=medium * Microrelease covering fixes of 1.4 and 1.4.1 [ Julian Andres Klode ] * Ignore \.ucf-[a-z]+$ like we do for \.dpkg-[a-z]+$ * systemd: Rework timing and add After=network-online (was LP #1615482) [ David Kalnischkies ] * Fix and avoid quoting in CommandLine::AsString (LP: #1672710) [ Unit 193 ] * apt-ftparchive: Support '.ddeb' dbgsym packages -- Julian Andres Klode Mon, 19 Jun 2017 13:58:04 +0200 ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu Xenial) Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
Leaving instances running shows that both xenial and zesty got unattended upgrade logs / attempts around 6:30am every day. Marking xenial as good. And will redo zesty upgrade test again to make sure units are started for the upgrade timer. ** Tags removed: verification-needed-xenial ** Tags added: verification-done-xenial ** Tags removed: verification-needed ** Tags added: verification-done -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
Similarly starting a zesty container for the same test case: ii apt 1.4 amd64 upgrading to: ii apt 1.4.6~17.04.1 amd64 Setting up apt (1.4.6~17.04.1) ... Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/timers.target.wants/apt-daily-upgrade.timer → /lib/systemd/system/apt-daily-upgrade.timer. However, this unit did not get activated. # systemctl status apt-daily-upgrade.timer ● apt-daily-upgrade.timer - Daily apt upgrade and clean activities Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/apt-daily-upgrade.timer; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) After rebooting the unit is active: # systemctl list-timers NEXT LEFT LAST PASSED UNIT ACTIVATES Fri 2017-07-28 09:55:34 UTC 14min left n/a n/a systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service Fri 2017-07-28 10:32:53 UTC 52min left Fri 2017-07-28 09:36:24 UTC 4min 22s ago motd-news.timer motd-news.service Fri 2017-07-28 13:44:26 UTC 4h 3min left Fri 2017-07-28 09:36:24 UTC 4min 22s ago snapd.refresh.timer snapd.refresh.service Fri 2017-07-28 18:04:19 UTC 8h left Fri 2017-07-28 09:36:24 UTC 4min 22s ago apt-daily.timer apt-daily.service Sat 2017-07-29 06:52:52 UTC 21h left n/a n/a apt-daily-upgrade.timer apt-daily-upgrade.service I will leave this zesty instance running, but it may mean a fix up on zesty is needed to activate the apt-daily-upgrade.timer in postinst. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
In zesty, postinst has: deb-systemd-invoke $_dh_action apt-daily-upgrade.timer apt-daily.timer >/dev/null || true maybe my instance was still booting hence this did not work. Will troubleshoot zesty more. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
Starting with: ii apt 1.2.20 amd64commandline package manager The following timers are present: # systemctl list-timers NEXT LEFT LAST PASSED UNIT ACTIVATES Fri 2017-07-28 09:42:31 UTC 14min leftn/a n/a systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service Fri 2017-07-28 12:52:15 UTC 3h 24min left n/a n/asnapd.refresh.timer snapd.refresh.service Sat 2017-07-29 03:09:15 UTC 17h left n/a n/aapt-daily.timer apt-daily.service The apt-daily.service is going to run, unexpectadly, at 3:09am. Upgrading just apt: ii apt 1.2.24 amd64commandline package manager # systemctl list-timers NEXT LEFT LAST PASSED UNIT ACTIVATES Fri 2017-07-28 09:42:31 UTC 12min left n/a n/a systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service Fri 2017-07-28 10:03:19 UTC 33min left n/a n/a snapd.refresh.timer snapd.refresh.service Fri 2017-07-28 20:18:24 UTC 10h left Fri 2017-07-28 09:27:35 UTC 1min 57s ago apt-daily.timer apt-daily.service Sat 2017-07-29 06:30:36 UTC 21h left n/a n/a apt-daily-upgrade.timer apt-daily-upgrade.service Now there is timer to do a refresh at a random time, yet there is a predictable apt-daily-upgrade to apply the timer between 6 and 7am. All of this looks good. I will leave this container around, and will check if upgrades were applied tomorrow. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
Hello Dimitri, or anyone else affected, Accepted apt into xenial-proposed. The package will build now and be available at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/1.2.24 in a few hours, and then in the -proposed repository. Please help us by testing this new package. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation on how to enable and use -proposed.Your feedback will aid us getting this update out to other Ubuntu users. If this package fixes the bug for you, please add a comment to this bug, mentioning the version of the package you tested and change the tag from verification-needed-xenial to verification-done-xenial. If it does not fix the bug for you, please add a comment stating that, and change the tag to verification-failed-xenial. In either case, details of your testing will help us make a better decision. Further information regarding the verification process can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/PerformingSRUVerification . Thank you in advance! ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu Xenial) Status: In Progress => Fix Committed ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu Yakkety) Status: In Progress => Won't Fix ** Tags added: verification-needed verification-needed-xenial ** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Yakkety) Status: Triaged => Won't Fix ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu Zesty) Status: In Progress => Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Debian) Status: New => Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Artful) Assignee: (unassigned) => Dimitri John Ledkov (xnox) ** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Zesty) Assignee: (unassigned) => Dimitri John Ledkov (xnox) ** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Yakkety) Assignee: (unassigned) => Dimitri John Ledkov (xnox) ** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Xenial) Assignee: (unassigned) => Dimitri John Ledkov (xnox) ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu Artful) Assignee: (unassigned) => Dimitri John Ledkov (xnox) ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu Zesty) Assignee: (unassigned) => Dimitri John Ledkov (xnox) ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu Yakkety) Assignee: (unassigned) => Dimitri John Ledkov (xnox) ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu Xenial) Assignee: (unassigned) => Dimitri John Ledkov (xnox) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
Uploaded 1.4.6~17.04.1, 1.3.9, and 1.2.24 ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu Xenial) Status: Triaged => In Progress ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu Yakkety) Status: Triaged => In Progress ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu Zesty) Status: Triaged => In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
Fixed updates are on their way, currently finishing CI tests. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
Ahem, yes, sorry, I have to update those with the fix from 1.4.6. We also need updates for unattended upgrade that adds a --download-only option. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
Hello! I see uploads with fixes to this bug in various stable release queues - seeing that there was still some discussion after the uploads were done, I wanted to ask - what is the state of the fixes that are uploaded to the SRU queues? Are those fixes that are good to go or is this still in progress? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
** Changed in: apt (Debian) Status: New => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Debian) Status: Unknown => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #863911 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=863911 ** Also affects: unattended-upgrades (Debian) via http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=863911 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
OK, so 1.4.4 and friends actually enable debugging mode of unattended- upgrade instead of a download-only mode. --dry-run is documented as only doing downloads, but it also simulates the install and does verbose logging, so that's not useful. In 1.4.6, I modified apt.systemd.daily to check unattended-upgrade --help for "download-only", and use that if it exists. This means that with 1.4.6, everything should work once this is implemented in unattended-upgrades. I attached an early patch for unattended-upgrades (against the upstream version), there might be issues with it other than missing translations for --help. ** Patch added: "unattended-upgrade.diff" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+attachment/4887192/+files/unattended-upgrade.diff -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
** Changed in: apt (Debian) Status: Unknown => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #861357 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=861357 ** Also affects: apt (Debian) via http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=861357 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
I asked the systemd mailing list for some assistance on keeping the units from interfering with each other: https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd- devel/2017-April/038772.html Maybe they have a good solution to that issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
This bug was fixed in the package apt - 1.4.1ubuntu2 --- apt (1.4.1ubuntu2) artful; urgency=medium * Run unattended-upgrade -d in download part (LP: #1686470) apt (1.4.1ubuntu1) artful; urgency=medium * Split apt-daily timer into two (LP: #1686470) -- Julian Andres Klode Wed, 26 Apr 2017 21:41:05 +0200 ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu Artful) Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 11:20:47PM -, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > pabs just mentioned in #debian-apt that we could probably drop the > ConditionACPower for the downloading service. I'm not sure why that was > originally added, if only to protect upgrades or to save power when > downloading, if anyone has an opinion, let me know. Agreed, it should be ok to drop this. I believe the original rationale is that you don't want to *apply* an upgrade while on battery, since running out of power during the upgrade is Very Bad. But downloads should be ok. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
pabs just mentioned in #debian-apt that we could probably drop the ConditionACPower for the downloading service. I'm not sure why that was originally added, if only to protect upgrades or to save power when downloading, if anyone has an opinion, let me know. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1686470] Re: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows
Re systemd conflict handling, I can ask systemd ML tomorrow. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1686470 Title: Apt updates that are uniformly spread across all timezones, with predictable application windows To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1686470/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs