Mine today was an ad for micro k8s on macos. Seriously? This has
nothing whatsoever to do with my server. I will look into blocking this
at the firewall.
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motd-news is part base-files so it cannot be removed from Ubuntu Desktop,
Server or Core.
if you need to report a bug use
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/base-files/+filebug
On my point of view, motd-news is a Telemetry tool hidden in a Message of the
Day (MOTD)
serving Ads for
@zwets, to be clear, file the bug at: https://bugs.launchpad.net
/~ubuntu-motd
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Title:
motd.ubuntu.com currently shows media item (HBO's Silicon
@zwets, would you be willing to file a new bug? It's basically a clarity
issue on the messsage itself. It isn't actually saying you are running
16.10 or 17.04 or anything else. It's just letting you know that 16.10
goes EOL soon. So update your machines. But not necessarily that this
particular
@zwets: agreed, I see that as well. I assume the server side of
motd.ubuntu.com is not using the USER_AGENT lsb value correctly?
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I actually spent time tracking down this 'bug' because on my upgrade
17.04 servers I kept seeing:
* Ubuntu 16.10 will reach end of life on Thursday, July 20, 2017
How to upgrade from 16.10 to 17.04:
- https://ubu.one/upgY2Z
making me wonder if my upgrade was botched or something. I
“The default configuration is that this "motd-news" feature is enabled
and that it will check https://motd.ubuntu.com for updates.” is called
“a useful feature” by the author of the LWN article, and in this
bugreport.
In the Debian world, we call this a phone-home privacy violation which
is a
Just my 2 cents:
In general, publishing important security/maintenance related notices by means
of https://motd.ubuntu.com sounds like a good idea (especially if you don't use
canonical-livepatch in case of critical security hazards), but I'd strongly
suggest to allow for client side
@Dustin
> Moreover, the HBO link wasn't even an advertisement!
I think the thing that made me feel uneasy is that the motd read like an
advertisement. And so did parts of the article, specifically saying that
we should watch Silicon Valley. I appreciate that it was not meant that
way though.
+1 Thanks, for briging this important security information to me. I'll
remove the motd-file, to prevent tracking and the likes.
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@Dustin
Are we looking at the same USER_AGENT string? I ran the block of code
from `update-motd.d/50-motd-news` on my laptop that constructs the
USER_AGENT variable that's sent to motd.ubuntu.com and it looks like
this: "curl/7.47.0-1ubuntu2.2 Ubuntu/16.04.2/LTS
Re: UserAgent
My UserAgent in Chrome|FireFox|Curl|wget|etc do not tell the remote server what
the uptime of my host is.
Re: Fun Facts
Fun facts are indeed fun, but this feature should be reserved for important
information regarding EOL, Security Patches, etc.
If the administrator of
Regarding the User Agent -- this is exactly equivalent to the USER AGENT
string your browser (Chrome, Chromium, Firefox, Safari, curl, wget)
sends to every website in the world. Curious? Install apache2 on
localhost, tail -f /var/log/apache2/access.log, and hit
http://localhost/ with a web
Regarding the "sometimes the news is just a fun fact"...
Do you get similarly annoyed when the Google logo on the homepage is
replaced with a Google Doodle?
https://www.google.com/doodles
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This comment is mainly for Tim and Andrew (of Digital Ocean), who seem
offended by this behavior.
I just captured this snapshot in my Chrome browser, searching for
"Docker Cloud". The top results of that search are not actually the
organic docker.com results, but rather a Google Ad for Digital
@Simos:
Not sure about the Twitter storm you're referring too. The http request
being sent to motd.ubuntu.com is embedding information like system
uptime in the user-agent header. That appears to be used to determine
which information to send back in the http response. What's not clear,
is if
** Changed in: base-files (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided => Wishlist
** Changed in: base-files (Ubuntu)
Status: Triaged => Opinion
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@Timothy:
There would not be much of a need to collect stats specifically from
motd.ubuntu.com. The user-agent will just say 'curl' in all cases which is not
that helpful.
Also, each distro installation checks every day for security updates, so why
would anyone bother with motd?
There has
1) This is ideological content and it's not being used to disseminate
technical or factual knowledge that is useful to the user.
I would be less inclined to be critical if the non-relevant information
delivered was content that helped to amplify the work of a world-
renowned charity (say, MSF for
I should walk back some of what I've said. I don't want to be
inflammatory. I implied Canonical was collecting this information when
they may only in fact be using it to decide which messages to send back
to the client. It's entirely possible that the information is being
"thrown away" after the
I don't know if this should be a separate issue, but while investigating
this issue and learning about motd-news, I stumbled across this in the
code https://gist.github.com/anonymous/fdc1cab8cb193ca19aa4c663c1ebd1f5
#file-gistfile1-txt-L245 -- While I applaud the creativity, I don't
think it's
Just my opinion here..
```
* Sometimes, there's critical information that either we, the distro, or
perhaps even the local IT administrator of a fleet of systems needs to
communicate to users at login. Think, "ShellShock", "Heartbleed", "StackClash".
This seems to happen every few months, in
Dustin -- thank you for addressing the issue.
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Title:
motd.ubuntu.com currently shows media item (HBO's Silicon Valley using
Ubuntu)
To
Howdy! I'm the author of the motd-news code, as well as the story in
the subject of this bug.
Note that motd.ubuntu.com has been updated to say:
" * Ubuntu 16.10 will reach end of life on Wednesday, July 20th"
It may be useful to explain a bit of the design of motd-news. Note that
much of
Even if it isn't seen as an advertisement, it's a bit questionable and
unprofessional to put cool facts about a TV show in a space reserved for
technical announcements.
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While I agree this shouldn't be seen as some sort of conspiracy, there
are a few things I want to comment on:
1) This shouldn't happen in the first place. ubuntu.com is not ad
supported, and neither should the OS. Canonical makes its money through
support services and should not need the ad
Well, it's acombined issue:
An ubuntu package shows content from motd.ubuntu.com. If we have control
over what motd.ubuntu.com contains then we should fix that. If we don't
have control over the quality of what motd.ubuntu.com contains then we
shouldn't use it.
User's won't know where the
** Summary changed:
- motd.ubuntu.com currently advertises HBO's Silicon Valley
+ motd.ubuntu.com currently shows media item (HBO's Silicon Valley using Ubuntu)
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