[Bug 1730159] Re: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed
This was fixed in snapd 2.36. 2.37 is now in disco and bionic-updates, and will land in trusty,xenial,cosmic soon. ** Changed in: snapd (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released ** Changed in: snapd (Ubuntu Bionic) Status: Triaged => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1730159 Title: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1730159/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1730159] Re: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed
** Changed in: snapd (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress => Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1730159 Title: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1730159/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1730159] Re: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed
I understand this is committed in snapd 2.36. ** Changed in: snapd (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1730159 Title: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1730159/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1730159] Re: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed
It's way too late for that behavior right now. Many features expect snapd to be live to work. Seeding happens the first time snapd runs, which means a new system will by default start without any snaps installed. The data for command-not-found is acquired by snapd while running as well. We also cannot trivially start and then stop because there's no obvious control point for when snapd is done doing what needs to get done. So, yeah, we can look for good solutions for this problem, but changing the behavior now would be reckless in terms of stability. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1730159 Title: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1730159/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1730159] Re: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed
** Tags added: id-5acd1db06f41344de82489f0 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1730159 Title: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1730159/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1730159] Re: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed
This also impacts Ubuntu minimal so we need it fixed for release and shouldn't wait to SRU post release. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1730159 Title: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1730159/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1730159] Re: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed
If someone has no snaps installed when they shut down a system, are they expected to have the same amount of snaps (0) on the next startup? One thing that could be explored, if possible, is to not start the snapd daemon at all on boots after that (disabling the service) and if snaps are installed it could be re-enabled. It could make boot time slightly faster, although I'm unsure by how much. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1730159 Title: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1730159/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1730159] Re: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed
This impacts the memory footprint of all Ubuntu installs in 18.04, including e.g. lxd containers which ship no snaps by default. This should be prioritized for fixing in 18.04 (via SRU if needed). Yes, this will need to be implemented in snapd directly; snapd will be started on boot and should cleanly shut itself down if it's idle and has no snaps installed. ** Also affects: snapd (Ubuntu Bionic) Importance: Undecided Status: Confirmed ** Changed in: snapd (Ubuntu Bionic) Status: Confirmed => Triaged ** Changed in: snapd (Ubuntu Bionic) Importance: Undecided => High -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1730159 Title: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1730159/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1730159] Re: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: snapd (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1730159 Title: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1730159/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1730159] Re: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed
I don't think systemd lets you express this, so it'd have to be logic inside snapd itself. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1730159 Title: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1730159/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1730159] Re: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed
Since there is a snapd.socket unit, if snapd is stopped, it can correctly autostart on invocation of the 'snap' command. So this seems like a reasonable change to remove memory pressure from snapd when it's not in use. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1730159 Title: Snapd should not start if there are no Snaps installed To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1730159/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
