[Bug 1747198] Re: who or w command produces no tty information about terminal

2018-02-04 Thread Terrance 
** Description changed:

  ~$ lsb_release -rd
  Description:  Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
  Release:  16.04
  
  ~$ apt-cache policy gnome-terminal
  gnome-terminal:
-   Installed: 3.18.3-1ubuntu1
-   Candidate: 3.18.3-1ubuntu1
-   Version table:
-  *** 3.18.3-1ubuntu1 500
- 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 Packages
- 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
- 
+   Installed: 3.18.3-1ubuntu1
+   Candidate: 3.18.3-1ubuntu1
+   Version table:
+  *** 3.18.3-1ubuntu1 500
+ 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 Packages
+ 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
  
  When running the `who` or `w` commands in a gnome-terminal window, it is
  not shown.  Nor can you send a write username [tty] command to the
  gnome-terminal that is open.
  
  From the gnome-terminal:
  
  ~$ w
-  14:41:59 up  6:01,  3 users,  load average: 0.19, 0.25, 0.18
+  14:41:59 up  6:01,  3 users,  load average: 0.19, 0.25, 0.18
  USER TTY  FROM LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
  terrance tty7 :0   08:406:01m 25:07   0.08s /sbin/upstart 
-
  terrance pts/1:0.0 11:002:58m  0.47s  0.47s bash
  terrance pts/6:0.0 11:021:58   0.46s  0.46s bash
  ~$ tty
  /dev/pts/7
  ~$ write terrance /dev/pts/7
  write: terrance is not logged in on pts/7
  
  From a xfce4-terminal window:
  
  ~$ w
-  14:52:27 up  6:12,  3 users,  load average: 0.34, 0.28, 0.21
+  14:52:27 up  6:12,  3 users,  load average: 0.34, 0.28, 0.21
  USER TTY  FROM LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU WHAT
  terrance tty7 :0   08:406:11m 25:23   0.08s /sbin/upstart 
-
  terrance pts/1:0.0 11:003:09m  0.47s  0.47s bash
  terrance pts/6:0.0 11:021.00s  0.48s  0.01s w
  ~$ tty
  /dev/pts/6
  ~$ write terrance /dev/pts/6
  
  Message from terrance@terrance-ubuntu on pts/6 at 14:53 ...
  EOF
  
  This seems to be only showing problems in the gnome-terminal.  Any other
  terminal I have tried has worked successfully.
  
  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.04
  Package: gnome-terminal 3.18.3-1ubuntu1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.13.0-32.35~16.04.1-generic 4.13.13
  Uname: Linux 4.13.0-32-generic x86_64
  NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_uvm nvidia_drm nvidia_modeset nvidia
  ApportVersion: 2.20.1-0ubuntu2.15
  Architecture: amd64
  CurrentDesktop: XFCE
  Date: Sat Feb  3 14:48:05 2018
  ProcEnviron:
-  LANGUAGE=en_US
-  PATH=(custom, no user)
-  XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=
-  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
-  SHELL=/bin/bash
+  LANGUAGE=en_US
+  PATH=(custom, no user)
+  XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=
+  LANG=en_US.UTF-8
+  SHELL=/bin/bash
  SourcePackage: gnome-terminal
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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[Bug 1747198] Re: who or w command produces no tty information about terminal

2018-02-04 Thread Egmont Koblinger 
VTE no longer does utmp logging. This was an upstream change made almost
three years ago at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747046,
and is clearly not going to get reverted by upstream.

Actually, most other VTE-based emulators (e.g. xfce4-terminal) are also
affected in newer Ubuntu releases, while a few VTE-based emulators
(can't recall which ones, sorry) added back utmp logging of their own.

Some other terminal emulators, such as terminology and st (Ubuntu
package: stterm) don't do utmp logging either.

Two possible command line solution are mentioned in comments 34 & 35 of
the aforementioned link. They could be set up as "Custom command" in
gnome-terminal, and are clearly more lightweight than ssh.

Ubuntu should ship such a command line tool if it thinks that utmp
logging is important, which was argued against in the VTE bug.

** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #747046
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747046

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[Bug 1747198] Re: who or w command produces no tty information about terminal

2018-02-03 Thread Terrance 
One way around this is to run `ssh localhost` in the terminal window
then it works.

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