[Bug 1758798] Re: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver
This bug was fixed in the package tlp - 1.1-2 --- tlp (1.1-2) unstable; urgency=medium * [59b316a] Demote smartmontools from Recommends to Suggests smartmontools dependencies end up pulling in a mail server, which may not be wanted on desktop installations (Closes: 894150) (LP: 1758798) * [56bc43f] debian/control: cosmetic changes * [b407a57] debian/control: update Vcs-* URLs for Salsa migration * [5538eec] README.Debian: fix mix up between stable/oldstable/oldoldstable * [a7a] Override lintian warning about unusual WantedBy target * [7b94358] Override lintian warning about missing test suite -- Raphaël Halimi Tue, 27 Mar 2018 15:02:15 +0200 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1758798 Title: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tlp/+bug/1758798/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1758798] Re: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver
** Changed in: tlp (Debian) Status: Confirmed => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1758798 Title: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tlp/+bug/1758798/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1758798] Re: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver
** Changed in: tlp (Debian) Status: Unknown => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1758798 Title: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tlp/+bug/1758798/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1758798] Re: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver
** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #894150 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=894150 ** Also affects: tlp (Debian) via https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=894150 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1758798 Title: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tlp/+bug/1758798/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1758798] Re: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver
This bug was fixed in the package tlp - 1.1-1ubuntu1 --- tlp (1.1-1ubuntu1) bionic; urgency=medium * Bug-fix release - Do not install a mail-server for a standard install; smartmontools is a recommended package that also installs postfix mail server (LP: #1758798) * Packaging Changes - debian/control - move smartmontools from Recommends: to Suggests: -- David Mohammed Mon, 26 Mar 2018 20:36:25 +0100 ** Changed in: tlp (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1758798 Title: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tlp/+bug/1758798/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1758798] Re: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver
Oh, in that case, no problem. I take it back. Thanks a lot ! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1758798 Title: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tlp/+bug/1758798/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1758798] Re: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver
> Now I'll have to request a sync when the bug is fixed in Debian. Don't worry about it, I'll keep an eye out and sync as soon as it's ready. Sorry; and thanks. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1758798 Title: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tlp/+bug/1758798/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1758798] Re: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver
I hoped to avoid that. Now I'll have to request a sync when the bug is fixed in Debian. Couldn't you wait a few days ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1758798 Title: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tlp/+bug/1758798/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1758798] Re: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver
Looks good to me; uploaded. ** Changed in: tlp (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress => Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1758798 Title: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tlp/+bug/1758798/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1758798] Re: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver
enc is a debdiff that resolves this issue; it moves smartmontools from a Recommends: to a Suggests: so that TLP does not inadvertently install postfix mail-server. ** Changed in: tlp (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Medium ** Changed in: tlp (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => fossfreedom (fossfreedom) ** Changed in: tlp (Ubuntu) Status: New => In Progress ** Patch added: "tlp_1.1-1ubuntu1.debdiff" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntubudgie/+bug/1758798/+attachment/5091516/+files/tlp_1.1-1ubuntu1.debdiff ** No longer affects: ubuntubudgie ** Tags added: bionic patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1758798 Title: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tlp/+bug/1758798/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1758798] Re: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver
Hi @fossfreedom, I already made the change in my local Git repository, but I don't know when I'll be able to release it, first because I don't have a lot of time available right now, and secondly because I'm not (yet) a Debian Maintainer so I have to rely on my sponsor for the actual upload. I'll try to do it this week, but I don't promise anything. About germinate, I don't know at all what is it, but looking at the link you provided, I guess it's a tool which points to why each package was pulled in. mailx being a virtual package, like default-mta or mail- transport-agent, it may explain why none of them is shown in the output. Also, thanks a lot for taking care of filing the bugs against smartmontools and postfix - I intended to do it, but given the workload I currently have, it takes a weight off my shoulders. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1758798 Title: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntubudgie/+bug/1758798/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1758798] Re: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver
Hi @raph We were looking at the following http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu- budgie.bionic/desktop So germinate & apt apparently doesnt see "mailx" - just bsd-mailx - and postfix installs from that according the the "why" column. I will raise the Debian bug reports as you have recommended - cheers for the info. Will you be making the Suggests change in Debian for TLP or should I pursue a Ubuntu only change (I believe Ubuntu policy is to remove as much "ubuntu" only stuff) ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1758798 Title: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntubudgie/+bug/1758798/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1758798] Re: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver
By the way, I don't understand how this dependency chain resolves to postfix: smartmontools recommends mailx | bsd-mailx mailx is a virtual package provided by mailutils and bsd-mailx Both mailutils and bsd-mailx depend on default-mta | mail-transport- agent default-mta is a virtual package provided by exim4-daemon-light mail-transport-agent is a virtual package provided by all SMTP servers in Debian (both full-blown and fake ones like ssmtp or nullmailer) Knowing this, I don't understand how APT could have chosen Postfix to resolve this chain of dependency. Whichever one of bsd-mailx or mailutils was chosen to satisfy smartmontools dependencies, APT's first choice should have been exim4-daemon-light, not postfix. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1758798 Title: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntubudgie/+bug/1758798/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1758798] Re: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver
Hi, TLP Debian maintainer here. I see three different problems here : 1/ TLP does "need" smartctl, to display info about HDD health. Not having it installed doesn't prevent TLP from working, it simply displays a message inviting the user to install it. So I guess smartmontools could be demoted to suggests. 2/ smartmontools actually contains two pieces of software, smartctl and smartd. The first one is a command-line utility, the second is a daemon. Only the daemon actually needs the mailx command to alert the administrator in case of problems. Maybe a bug with severity "wishlist" should be filed against smartmontools in Debian asking to separate smartctl and smartd in their own packages. 3/ The default configuration of Postfix in Debian, if you don't answer debconf questions, is "Internet site". I never understood why, the logical choice (from a security point of view) should be "Local only", where the daemon binds to the loopback interface only. Again, maybe a bug with severity "wishlist" should be filed against postfix asking to change the default answer to the main_mailer_type question. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1758798 Title: tlp recommends smartmontools which then pulls in Postfix mailserver To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntubudgie/+bug/1758798/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
