[Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-09-12 Thread gf
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 42178 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/42178

Ok, Humphrey. Just wanted to make sure you were satisfied with the response on 
this bug report.
Talk to you again.
:)
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[Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-09-11 Thread Humphrey van Polanen Petel
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 42178 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/42178

Hi G,
I am happy to report a problem and answer questions about it, but I my 
interests lie elsewhere.  Sorry.
Humphrey

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[Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-09-11 Thread gf
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 42178 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/42178

Hi Humphrey,
See also this bug:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=276655

which has been associated with the 42178 bug and is the "upstream" bug
that has been reported to Debian.

Hope this helps

G

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[Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-09-11 Thread gf
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 42178 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/42178

Hi again Humphrey,
Please subscribe yourself to the bug number 42178, so you can follow and 
comment on the conversation there. Someone just responded there yesterday also 
reporting the bug on their computer.
Take care.
:)
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[Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-09-10 Thread gf
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 42178 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/42178

Sorry Humphrey. Paul was responding to my comment about not being able
to find the software I need in the ubuntu software app. I have since
looked at aptitude and I still prefer synaptic.

This issue is still open, under bug number 42178. Will you look at that other 
bug?
Thanks
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Re: [Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-09-10 Thread Humphrey van Polanen Petel
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 42178 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/42178

Dear people,

Ubuntu Software has Synaptic, but not Aptitude, and apt and apt-get 
appear to be installed by default.  Three (four if counting apt and 
apt-get) different ways of doing things here. Why are you making things 
so complicated for us, simple people?

Regards,

Humphrey


On 10/09/18 10:52, gf wrote:
> *** This bug is a duplicate of bug 42178 ***
>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/42178
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, Paul. I will look at aptitude. I was not aware it 
> was different from apt or apt-get.
> Take care
> :)
> G
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[Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-09-09 Thread gf
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 42178 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/42178

Thanks for the suggestion, Paul. I will look at aptitude. I was not aware it 
was different from apt or apt-get.
Take care
:)
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[Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-09-09 Thread Paul White
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 42178 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/42178

Ok G, I didn't want to just make it a duplicate as you had been working
on this bug with Humphrey. I saw Raimondo's comment as I'm subscribed to
all synaptic bugs. I don't think increasing the importance is going to
get anyone to fix this issue any quicker if at all.

Closing now by marking as a duplicate.

Side note: If you don't mind a console application take a look at
aptitude for searching, holding or installing/upgrading multiple
applications. It's a true front-end to apt unlike synaptic.


** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 42178
   synaptic: ‘Lock Version’ is broken; use dpkg hold

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[Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-09-09 Thread gf
Hi Paul,
I agree that bug 42178 is the primary bug report this issue. It has the best 
description, a possible workaround, the most history and most number of users 
affected. This bug here (1766161) could be closed as a duplicate of 42178.

However, 60 minutes ago, Raimondo is advocating that 42178 should be closed as 
"won't fix."
I support whatever choice you make on this, Paul.

And perhaps the importance of 42178 should be "medium" as it is "severe
impact on a non-core application."  Even though someone said it is not
supported, I believe Synaptic is still being used by a lot of people.

I use Synaptic because I cannot find all the software I need in the Ubuntu 
Software app. Synaptic is the first software I install when I get a new version 
of Ubuntu.
Thanks
G

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[Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-09-09 Thread Paul White
Today I've marked bug 1732946 as a duplicate of this one but I'm tempted
to mark this as a duplicate of bug 42178 which was filed back in 2006
and has several duplicates. It seems that apt not respecting the locking
of files in synaptic and v.v. was an intentional change, see the first
few comments of that bug. So synaptic is working as designed.

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[Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-08-16 Thread gf
Thanks for changing the importance level, Simon!
Have a great day.
:)
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[Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-08-16 Thread Simon Quigley
** Changed in: synaptic (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Low

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[Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-08-13 Thread gf
Hi Humphrey,
Again, sorry for the delay and the initial lack of response to your original 
report. The bug reports are handled by people from around the globe, the 
majority of whom are volunteers. Unfortunately, they missed this one and it 
fell down in the queue.

I just started bug triaging a little over a month ago and thought I
would start by trying to clear up some of these old bug reports.

Now that this bug report is confirmed, hopefully they will action it
soon. Though, I must advise that since it will be classified as a low
priority ticket, it may take a long time for them to action it, as the
programmers themselves are also volunteers. Thank you for your patience.
I will keep an eye on this ticket to watch for progress.

I apologize again for them not getting back to you, originally.

Take care
:)
G

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[Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-08-12 Thread Humphrey van Polanen Petel
It is heartening that know that even old bugs are not forgotten.
Thank you.
Humphrey

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[Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-08-12 Thread gf
Thanks for your thoughts on this. I agree and I will get someone to change the 
status.
Take care
:)
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[Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-08-12 Thread Paul White
The last time I reported a bug that affected synaptic I was told by a
developer: "Marking as low considering that synaptic is not officially
supported". I would have marked it as such myself but I don't (yet) have
that capability. :)

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[Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-08-12 Thread gf
Hi Paul,
Thanks for confirming this issue and for updating the status.

What importance would you assign to this bug report?

Take care and thanks again for taking the time to detail how to recreate the 
bug.
:)
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[Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-08-12 Thread Paul White
I can reproduce this so I'll mark the report as affecting me too.

1) Open synaptic and identify one or more packages that are not to be upgraded
2) Mark them with "Lock version" - they get shown as "Pinned"
3) Close synaptic
4) Add PPA that would provide an update to those packages
5) Reload packages in synaptic to verify packages pinned correctly
4) In a terminal run "sudo apt update" and "sudo apt upgrade" - packages are 
upgraded
5) Open synaptic
6) Packages are still shown as "Pinned" but against the updated version numbers

Not the best example I know but it does show that the pinning of
packages in synaptic isn't recognised by running apt or apt-get commands
in a terminal. I have a feeling that the opposite applies too. Holding
packages with apt-mark doesn't stop synaptic from upgrading those
packages.

This was tested with synaptic 0.84.3ubuntu1 in Ubuntu 18.10 (dev)

** Changed in: synaptic (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Confirmed

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[Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-08-11 Thread gf
Hi Humprey. Thanks for the update.

Would you provide exact steps as to how to produce this error?

Take care
:)
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[Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-08-10 Thread Humphrey van Polanen Petel
I haven't been in the situation that I needed to use Synaptic like I
described, but I haven't see a fix so IMO it is still a bug that needs
to be fixed.

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[Bug 1766161] Re: package get updated even though locked in Synaptic

2018-07-27 Thread gf
Hello Humphrey,
Thank you for submitting this bug and reporting a problem with synaptic. You 
made this bug report some time ago and Ubuntu has been updated since then.

Could you confirm that this is no longer a problem and that we can close the 
ticket?
If it is still a problem, are you still interested in finding a solution to 
this bug?
If you are, could you let us know, and in the current version, run the 
following (only once):
apport-collect 1766161
and upload the updated logs and and any other logs that are relevant for this 
particular issue.

Thank you again for helping make Ubuntu better.
G

** Changed in: synaptic (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Incomplete

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