[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
@frigo Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately my systems requires pam_krb5 which has precedence over default_ccache_name and sets KRB5CCNAME directly. I tried to set ccache_dir in the pam section of krb5.conf but I didn't manage. While waiting for this to be fixed I'll continue with the not-snap version of firefox ... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
** Changed in: chromium-browser (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Medium ** Changed in: chromium-browser (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
The same applies to Chromium, please set it to medium as well, Luka. Thanks! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
-- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
Unless the snap move was intended to provide isolation from Kerberos, setting to medium because this breaks many enterprise usecases for Firefox. ** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Medium ** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
if the goal is to have a single snap making use of the kerberos ticket, as a workaround you can put something like this in /etc/krb5.conf [libdefaults] default_ccache_name = DIR:/home/%{username}/snap/firefox/common/.cache/.k5_ccache the default connections for the firefox snap prevent it to read hidden files under $HOME, so we help it a little. Seems to work so far -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
Launchpad has imported 4 comments from the remote bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1734791. If you reply to an imported comment from within Launchpad, your comment will be sent to the remote bug automatically. Read more about Launchpad's inter-bugtracker facilities at https://help.launchpad.net/InterBugTracking. On 2021-10-08T07:21:39+00:00 Marian+mozilla wrote: User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/93.0.4577.99 Safari/537.36 Steps to reproduce: This issue concerns the Firefox snap package. I have configured Firefox to use SPNEGO authentication against my authentication server using the policy `Authentication/SPNEGO` (as documented at https://github.com/mozilla/policy- templates/blob/master/README.md#authentication). Firefox shows the policy in `about:policies` and the corresponding setting `network.negotiate-auth.trusted-uris` in `about:config`, so the policy is found and applied correctly. Actual results: Even though the policy is active, Firefox does not attempt Kerberos authentication against my authentication server. The exact same policy DOES work with the regular deb-based version of Firefox, so the issue has to be in the snap package. I guess that the snap version does not have access to the required files and/or environment variables. I logged which files and directories the deb-based Firefox accesses that seem to have to do with Kerberos/SPNEGO using `strace -f -t -e trace=file firefox` on my system running Ubuntu 21.10 beta: ``` /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgssapi_krb5.so.2 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkrb5.so.3 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libk5crypto.so.3 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkrb5support.so.0 /etc/gss/mech /etc/gss/mech.d /etc/krb5.conf /etc/krb5/user/10017/client.keytab /usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES/mit-krb5.mo /usr/share/locale-langpack/*/LC_MESSAGES/mit-krb5.mo /tmp/krb5cc_10017_QfHqc3 ``` `10017` is the user ID of the user running firefox. The last file `/tmp/krb5cc_10017_QfHqc3` is the user's Kerberos ticket cache, which is given by the environment variable `KRB5CCNAME`. So the first step would be to allow the snap to access the listed files and directories, as well as to the environment variable `KRB5CCNAME`. Of course, the list is just generated by looking at the deb-based Firefox on my system and might not be complete. In any case, I'd be happy to test an updated snap. Expected results: Kerberos/SPNEGO authentication should work the same as in the deb-based Firefox. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium- browser/+bug/1849346/comments/14 On 2021-10-12T12:27:10+00:00 Andrei-purice wrote: Setting a component for this issue in order to get the dev team involved. If you feel it's an incorrect one please feel free to change it to a more appropriate one. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium- browser/+bug/1849346/comments/17 On 2021-10-15T14:11:37+00:00 Olivier Tilloy wrote: Triagers, please update the component to "Release Automation: Snap" and add a blocks reference to bug 1665641. Thanks! Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium- browser/+bug/1849346/comments/19 On 2021-10-18T07:57:39+00:00 Daniel Calcoen wrote: There are several references across the internet about similar problems. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1849346 Firefox with Kerberos/SPENGO works fine in the non snap version and Firefox snap version don't. Seems some door is closed in the snap. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium- browser/+bug/1849346/comments/21 ** Changed in: firefox Status: Unknown => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
** Also affects: firefox (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: firefox via https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1734791 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed ** No longer affects: thunderbird (Ubuntu) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
There is a similar bug follow up at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1734791 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
Which is different in our case that for normal people is that the use of Kerberos requires to set in firefox the preference "network.negotiate-auth.trusted-uris" which by default is not set. In my case it is set as network.negotiate-auth.trusted-uris=cern.ch I have everything setup correctly, linux and firefox snap, and the problem present so if somebody could guide me a bit I can output any log file/debug you wish to spot where the magic disappears. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
Today my brand new Ubuntu 21.10 Impish has forced the change of Firefox as Snap, so I'm suffering Kerberos not working from inside the Firefox snap. Kerberos works fine at Linux level.KInit, KList, etc... shows that the tickets are assigned and handle correctly when requested. Some closed door seems to isolate the snap from the real world... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
Maybe the information I collected here https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1734791 for the Firefox snap, which suffers from the same problem, is helpful in order to fix the problem for the Chromium snap as well. ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #1734791 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1734791 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
Same problem here, chromium is not able to use kerberos ticket. I think, it is time to get back chromium as a deb package until snap is really working. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
Unsure why thunderbird is listed there, it's not mentioned in the description nor posts, could you give some details on what isn't working and how? ** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Low ** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
Observed the same issue issue using the Thunderbird snap instead of the RPM. ** Also affects: thunderbird (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
The snap should have the required libraries to support kerberos authentication, but it's likely that confinement is getting in the way. Does kerberos allow verbose logging on the server end, to inspect where authentication is failing? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
Sorry, I changed the issue's type accidently. ** Information type changed from Public Security to Public -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
Why do you think it's a security issue? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
This problem still persist and SPNEGO won't work even with new policies: https://cloud.google.com/docs/chrome-enterprise/policies/?policy=AuthServerAllowlist https://cloud.google.com/docs/chrome-enterprise/policies/?policy=AuthNegotiateDelegateAllowlist The policies are loaded successfully but kerboros negotiation won't work ** Information type changed from Public to Public Security -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
Sorry this sucks guys - when is it going to get fixed? Ubuntu 20.04 also stopped working for me since the transition to snap happend - all kerberos and gssapi authentications no longer work -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
The same problem here, after upgrading to 'snapped' chromium 79 we lost Single Sign-On, all our Kerberos security based intranet web servers started asking for username and password. Kerberos ticket cache is file /tmp/krb5cc_: johndoe@computer:~$ klist Ticket cache: FILE:/tmp/krb5cc_1000 Default principal: john...@mydomain.lan Valid starting ExpiresService principal 3.2.2020 12:39:10 3.2.2020 22:39:10 krbtgt/mydomain@mydomain.lan renew until 4.2.2020 12:39:10 3.2.2020 12:42:39 3.2.2020 22:39:10 cifs/da...@mydomain.lan johndoe@computer:~$ ls -la /tmp/krb5cc_1000 -rw--- 1 johndoe johndoe 3125 Ășno 3 12:42 /tmp/krb5cc_1000 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
Thanks, that's useful. I'm not familiar with SPNEGO/GSSAPI/kerberos, could you maybe come up with easy steps to reproduce the problem on a clean system? That would allow me to dig further into the problem. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
The /etc/gss/mech.d/ and /etc/krb5.conf.d/ denials may be relevant. Both directories are empty in my case, but lack of access may be killing some logic that relies on checking them. ** Attachment added: "AppArmor denials" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1849346/+attachment/5303122/+files/apparmor_denials.txt -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
Thanks for the report. Can you check for apparmor denials in the system journal when reproducing the problem? Run the following command in a terminal before launching chromium: journalctl -f | grep DEN ** Tags added: snap -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1849346] Re: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition
** Summary changed: - kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition + [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1849346 Title: [snap] kerberos GSSAPI no longer works after deb->snap transition To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1849346/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs