[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-11-05 Thread Alexander Sack
also look at the bug status. its triaged and reported in bugzilla ...
not more we can show you that this is accepted as a bug.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-11-05 Thread Alexander Sack
residentialien, the problem about this bug is that its hard to
reproduce. apparently those that see it, see it regularly, but the rest
doesnt see it at all.

What is the point of open source software if no-one is fixing the
bugs? ... no comments on that thats clearly a rant and doesnt belong in
a bug tracker.

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Re: [Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-11-05 Thread André Pirard

 Frankly it looks like an implementation issue.  Who was the brainiack
 who decided not to activate the menu on click release, but rather on
 click depression and then have click release also drive an action.  Who
 the hell is clicking and holding down the right mouse button while
 browsing?
   
Reminder : I have opened Bug #238733 to discuss these right-click issues 
and I have been answered to shut up about it in launchpad. You might 
want to go to Bug #238733 and tell them that the report is by no means 
Invalid (at least no more than repeated mentions in this thread) and 
maybe request to take it out of that state.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/238733
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/187313

Alternatively, launchpad might be the right place to request that it's 
now high time to regress Ubuntu 8.04 to a stable Firefox 2 and to no 
longer ever dress an LTS release in a beta software (vox populi vox dei).

More generally, I'd welcome a bug report platform where someone like a 
developer sometimes pops up to ask for pertinent details rather than a 
platform looking like a bowing crowd praying heaven for fixes to rain. 
Bugs are hardly analyzed and when one tries to do that, the answer is 
that the report is too long.

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Re: [Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-11-05 Thread ethana2
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:56 AM, Alexander Sack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 residentialien, the problem about this bug is that its hard to
 reproduce. apparently those that see it, see it regularly, but the rest
 doesnt see it at all.

I used to rely heavily on right clicking, but because of this bug, I
avoid it whenever possible.
I have run into this bug on every firefox3 instance I've ever
encountered, over two versions of Ubuntu and on wildly varying
hardware.
It seems the root issue is somewhat simple, that menus are being
raised on right click instead of after right click release.  --though
I could be mistaken.
I recognize that rants don't belong in bug mailing lists, but I share
residentalien's frustration and I think it's probable that many others
do also.
I look forward very much to this issue being resolved, hopefully in
time for firefox 3.1

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-11-04 Thread mrgil
I've noticed this behavior in FF3.0 - FF3.0.3 for months.  When I right
click on a link, sometimes I get the menu, but equally as often, I get a
chance to create a bookmark, send an email, or am automatically sent to
the link in a new tab.  It is certainly frustrating.  Glad to see I'm
not the only one.

The only other clue I have to offer is that sometimes when I'm very
careful to click near the leftmost part of the link, and dead-center
vertically, I usually get the right-click menu I am expecting.  If I
click somewhere near the middle or the right-hand side of the link, I
seem to get more random results.

Thanks!

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-11-04 Thread residentalien
So who is working on fixing this?  We have been complaining about this
for months and the only update to the forum is oh it happens to me
too.

Come on people, we can't use this software if you won't fix the problems
we report.  At least let us know you agree that it is a bug and you are
working on fixing it.  Ubuntu has seen a new release and Firefox is a
few releases out since this was first reported and still the problem
persists.

What is the point of open source software if no-one is fixing the bugs?

Frankly it looks like an implementation issue.  Who was the brainiack
who decided not to activate the menu on click release, but rather on
click depression and then have click release also drive an action.  Who
the hell is clicking and holding down the right mouse button while
browsing?

So how about someone from either team stand up and say, we acknowledge
it is an issue and here is what we are doing to fix it.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-11-02 Thread Gabriel Velo
I can confirm this annoying problem in Intrepid Ibex.
When I do a right click over a link or a page ,I get a random selection over 
the context menu options.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-11-02 Thread Jean-Philippe Fleury
I've updated Ubuntu 8.04 to Ubuntu 8.10 and I confirm that this bug is
still there.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-11-01 Thread sankaran
Right click on Firefox 3.0.3 in Intrepid Ibex brings evolution or opens
a new firefox window or some random action very frequently. It used to
be happening less frequently with Hardy Heron.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-10-31 Thread macabro22
This is happening to me on a Dell XPS m1739 using an USB mouse and
Intrepid Ibex. It did't use to happen in Hardy Heron. I am using a
modified firefox theme called Strata-O-Various 1.3.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-10-25 Thread Aswarp
I got the same impressions as Bryce Harrington about holding down the
mouse button in order to avoid getting kicked to any other menu action,
but it won't always work.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-10-25 Thread Aswarp
I got the same impressions as Bryce Harrigton about holding down the
mouse button in order to avoid getting kicked to any other menu action,
but it won't always work.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-10-21 Thread Dennis Heinson
1. This Bug persists in Firefox 3.0.3 in Intrepid as of 10-21-2008.
2. This Bug is ONLY Mozilla-related, not GNOME, XORG or Metacity-related. It 
happens in Windows too, and on Mac as well.
3. This Bug is NOT touchpad-related. I am seeing it on the touchpad, my 
Thinkpad's trackpoint AND my bluetooth mouse.
4. Could someone please bump the urgency as this makes Ubuntu hard to use at 
all? The browser is integral to the operating system and there is hardly an 
alternative to Firefox.

Thank you!

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-10-10 Thread vbois
I am having the exact same issue on my synaptics touchpad laptop, on
every version from 3.0 betas to 3.1a2 (current) running Windows Vista.
This seems to be a platform-independent bug and nothing to do with
Ubuntu, since I have also seen it on Windows XP.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-10-10 Thread Jean-Philippe Fleury
I confirm this bug with Firefox 3.0.3 in Ubuntu 8.04.1. It doesn't
happen only when I click right on a link, but anywhere I click right on
the page or even on a tab.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-10-09 Thread Bryce Harrington
I can confirm Aswarp's comment in comment #105.  I have
dom.event.contextmenu.enabled set to true (it seems to be on by default,
as I also have never altered it), yet am still seeing the bug.

This is sort of subjective, but it *seems* like I see it less often now
than I used to.  Possibly my fingers have just trained themselves to
avoid the trigger, but I'm not certain.  It seems if you quickly do
click...release, it's more likely to get triggered than if you
click...hold and wait for the menu to pop up.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-09-22 Thread Aswarp
Hello brabo:
Mi (Firefox v3.0.1 about:config dom.event.contextmenu.enabled) setting was 
already true. I didn't have to alter it AND the problem with the context menu 
was happening. So I confirm that the change does not solve the issue.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-09-17 Thread Roman Polach
I am taking it back. Now I see the problem again,
it is only harder to appear with dom.event.contextmenu.enabled=true

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-09-16 Thread Roman Polach
setting dom.event.contextmenu.enabled to true
solves problem for me.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-09-05 Thread Aswarp
I could if I know what the heck was to filp the dom.event.etcétera.
Could you explain yourself a little bit more thoroughly?

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-09-05 Thread brabo
aswarp: open in FF page about:config then scroll down to key 
'dom,event,contextmenu.enabled'
this is a boolean key, it can be true or false. the default is false. change it 
to true, restart FF and see if it changes the erratic behaviour.

brabo.

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Re: [Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-09-03 Thread Alexander Sack

could you try to flip the dom.event.contextmenu.enabled pref and see if
that improves something for you?

On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 10:47:35AM -, Aswarp wrote:
 To give a bit more of information about the bug:
 It seems that it meay be somewhat related to the cursor's position capture 
 method. For if cursor stands still over the link during 2 or 3 seconds and 
 the the right mouse button is pressed without [X, Y] movement, the correct 
 pop-up menu is shown (at least most of the times). So it seems that when the 
 click event is raised, the current, actual position of the cursor is not 
 correctly captured. Instead, some other [X, Y] coordinates are passed as 
 argument, that maybe quite far from the place qhere the arrow icon is on 
 screen. for instance, sometimes I get mi del.icio.us plugin summoned, even 
 when it is located on the top bar of the mozilla firefox 3 browser window, 
 hundreds of pixels away from the link I am clicking. So I don't think the [X, 
 Y] argument is really related to where the position of the cursor was some 
 fraction of a second ago, but instead, the the algorithm that computes and 
 hands over the coordinates is wrong.
 This bug may be related to strange frozings of the browser that occur when 
 trying to save an image file to the harddisk, documented as well in Launchapd.
 Hope this helps.
 

 - Alexander

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-09-02 Thread Aswarp
To give a bit more of information about the bug:
It seems that it meay be somewhat related to the cursor's position capture 
method. For if cursor stands still over the link during 2 or 3 seconds and the 
the right mouse button is pressed without [X, Y] movement, the correct pop-up 
menu is shown (at least most of the times). So it seems that when the click 
event is raised, the current, actual position of the cursor is not correctly 
captured. Instead, some other [X, Y] coordinates are passed as argument, that 
maybe quite far from the place qhere the arrow icon is on screen. for instance, 
sometimes I get mi del.icio.us plugin summoned, even when it is located on the 
top bar of the mozilla firefox 3 browser window, hundreds of pixels away from 
the link I am clicking. So I don't think the [X, Y] argument is really related 
to where the position of the cursor was some fraction of a second ago, but 
instead, the the algorithm that computes and hands over the coordinates is 
wrong.
This bug may be related to strange frozings of the browser that occur when 
trying to save an image file to the harddisk, documented as well in Launchapd.
Hope this helps.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-08-30 Thread Aswarp
Same problem here. It is quite annoying and very user-unfriendly and easy to 
encounter with.
Sometimes, with patience, if I leave the mouse still for a couple of seconds, 
the behaviour is correct. However if I click swiftly, Firefox will do whatever 
it likes (opening tabs, windows, wrong menues, etcetera).
System is Kubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04.1 on nvidia propietary drivers with Firefox 
3 up to date.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-08-26 Thread frenchy82
Thanks a lot gerben.
Your solution solved this problem for me

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-08-18 Thread Alecz20
This bug is REAL. Apparently someone is going to fix it! yay!

The funniest thing is when it randomly choses switch page direction.

As a temporary workaround I read that if you keep the right-click button
for a bit longer (until the menu appears) prevents the erratic behavior.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-08-18 Thread gerben
Summary of useful posts above:
This problem arises from the way mouse button presses are handled: pressing 
down the right mouse button calls up the right-button-menu and then letting go 
of the right mouse button is interpreted as selecting whatever is underneath 
the mouse pointer. So if the right-button-menu is drawn under the mouse 
pointer, you will accidentally choose one of its options if you release the 
right mouse button immediately after you pressed it down.

A simple way to get rid of this functionality in Firefox is to install
the Mouse gestures add-on, even if you don't use the gestures, this add-
on will make the right-mouse-button-menu only appear after you release
the right mouse button.

Mouse gestures add-on:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/39

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-08-12 Thread Anders Feder
For what's its worth, I have this problem too and its pretty annoying.

Basically, what happens (as far as I can tell) is that you right-click
to get the context menu and if you accidentally move the mouse just one
bit before releasing the button, Firefox registers it as a click on
whichever item happens to be in the position you (accidentally) moved
the pointer to.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-08-09 Thread Dante Díaz
the same problem  happens to me sometimes..
Firefox/3.0.1

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-08-08 Thread Dany Alejandro Cabrera
Just wanted to confirm this in a COMPAQ F754LA laptop with Ubuntu 8.04.1
fresh installation.

I always had this problem (random action at right click in link), no
matter if I use the synaptics touchpad or an external usb mouse.

It seems to me that the ctrl, shift and alt keys are randomly pressed in
firefox 3 lol.

Hope they fix it soon.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-07-18 Thread Del Griffith
My family and I notice this all of the time.

It appears most often when using YouTube, and there's already a Flash
video playing, but it happens at other times. Often it occurs when
there's a heavy load in the browser, like when I have several YouTube
pages open at the same time in tabs, and I go to right click and open a
new tab and it pauses, followed by opening Evolution, a save-to window,
or an Add to Bookmarks window instead of opening the new page in a new
tab. It has been frustrating my family members since I upgraded to
Firefox 3 in HH. I never saw this error in FF2.

I recommend visiting YouTube and opening a few pages of videos in tabs
by right clicking on them and opening in a new tab. I'm sure after a few
tabs are loaded this bug may be easily reproduced.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-07-07 Thread Alexander Sack
** Changed in: firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Triaged

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-07-07 Thread Joakim Asplund
I've started holding down the button and choose menu items by releasing
it to work around this. Actually, it's quite nice to do it that way.

Still, I think it would be good if a delay was introduced before
releasing the mouse button can choose menu items.

Does firefox use Gtk menus or does it use it's own?

The problem exists in a lot of other Gnome programs which also display
the menu on mousedown. IMO it should be fixed in the menus themselves.
As menus will popup in different directions depending on where on the
screen you click you need time to look at the menu before selecting
something. A short delay shouldn't have any bad side effects.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-07-04 Thread Mik3
I can confirm this problem Intrepid Alpha 1.
Firefox 3 ; Extentions: Adblock Plus, Customize Google, Personal Menu, Fission 
 NoScript.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-06-30 Thread Joakim Asplund
The problem seems to be that the popup menu is displayed on button-down,
not button-up like on Windows. If the mouse is being moved just a little
bit at the same time it might be over an item when the button is
released. This could either be solved by changing the popup to appear on
button release OR introducing a short delay before button releases can
activate menu items.

Using a delay has the advantage of still allowing single click use of
the menu. (press to show, release to select)

This might be a problem in other applications too - for example the
Nautilus file manager shows context menus on mouse down. Instead of
changing every Gnome application to show menus on mouse-up instead maybe
a delay should be incorporated into the toolkit - mouse up in the first
XXmS of a menu being shown is not counted as selection.

Or has something already been done to fix this?

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Re: [Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-06-30 Thread NoWhereMan (e.vacchi)
Isn't this gtktheme-related ? I think it's a problem with handling gtk
menus (or firefox's emulation of them).

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Re: [Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-06-30 Thread André Pirard

** Attachment added: unnamed
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15698574/unnamed

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-06-21 Thread Maddev
My previous post doesn't solve the problem but it occurs less often

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-06-20 Thread Maddev
I change Protocol option from ImPS/2 to ExplorerPS/2 at mouse configuration and 
problem disapear. 
I'm using FF3 and Ubuntu 8.04. 
The fragment of xorg.conf:
Section InputDevice
Identifier  Configured Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  CorePointer
Option  Device /dev/input/mice
#   Option  Protocol ImPS/2
Option  Protocol ExplorerPS/2
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
Option  Emulate3Buttons false
EndSection

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Re: [Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-06-09 Thread André Pirard
Hush, David, you'll be accused of making noise.
That is a different bug and yet it has been discussed in here already.
I have opened Bug #238733 about clicking logic.
If that logic was like in Windows, these bugs wouldn't be bugs.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-06-08 Thread David Miller
It seems that sometimes the context menu is drawn at a location such
that one of the menu selections is underneath the cursor. Just a little,
but that's all it takes.

I can reproduce this easily by displaying a page of thumbnail results
from Google Advanced image search
(http://images.google.com/advanced_image_search?hl=en). Go full screen,
change the zoom level and right-click on different thumbnails. Normally
the context menu is drawn above, below, left, or right of the cursor so
that the context menu is completely contained inside the screen draw
area, and no part of the menu is directly underneath the cursor. But
it's not hard to find one of the thumbnails for which the context menu
is drawn just a few pixels too close to the cursor, so that one of the
menu items is under the cursor. Release the mouse and you've activated
that menu item. One you've found a thumbnail positioned just right, the
problem is 100% reproducible.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-06-08 Thread Rocko
@David Miller: are you using the RC1 version of firefox, or the beta 5?
Doing what you suggest occasionally triggers the random bug for me in
RC1, but I never see the menu actually being drawn. It seems that you
_might_ be describing the separate bug only present in beta 5 where the
menu is drawn over the cursor if you are near the right hand bottom of
the screen. For me, this always used to choose the last item on the
menu, not a random item.

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-06-06 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: firefox
   Status: Incomplete = Confirmed

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-06-02 Thread Alexander Sack
** Summary changed:

- right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item
+ [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-06-02 Thread slasher-fun
If this bug is now classified as master, maybe we should increase its
importance...

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Re: [Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-06-02 Thread Alexander Sack
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 09:27:08PM -, slasher-fun wrote:
 If this bug is now classified as master, maybe we should increase its
 importance...
 

The part that makes this bug really important is about to be fixed by
the RC1 packages ... which currently can be tested in hardy-proposed

 affects ubuntu/firefox-3.0
 importance medium

 - Alexander


** Changed in: firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Low = Medium

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-06-02 Thread Rocko
I have the same observations as slasher-fun: for me the random selection
bug (ie different from the one fixed in the RC1 package) occurs at
random intervals, sometimes frequently and sometimes rarely. Sometimes
it will happen two clicks in a row. I get it on two different computers,
a laptop with an ATI card and a laptop with with an nvidia card. Compiz
and metacity don't make any difference. The i386 and amd64 versions both
show the problem. Both computers have a touchpad. Usually when I'm
selecting the right click menu in firefox I'm not using the keyboard so
I'm not anywhere near the touchpad.

Firefox 3 in Hardy is the first time I've ever noticed this bug. It
never happened in Gutsy with FF2.

I also occasionally notice spurious key presses being generated, eg in a
terminal or gedit, if the key repeat gets turned on - in other words,
without me doing any typing, suddenly characters spew out over whatever
I'm working on (again, this has only happened since Hardy). Could a
random spurious key press generated just after the mouse click be
causing the menu selections?

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Re: [Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-06-02 Thread Alexander Sack
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 11:53:49PM -, Rocko wrote:
 I have the same observations as slasher-fun: for me the random selection
 bug (ie different from the one fixed in the RC1 package) occurs at
 random intervals, sometimes frequently and sometimes rarely. Sometimes
 it will happen two clicks in a row. I get it on two different computers,
 a laptop with an ATI card and a laptop with with an nvidia card. Compiz
 and metacity don't make any difference. The i386 and amd64 versions both
 show the problem. Both computers have a touchpad. Usually when I'm
 selecting the right click menu in firefox I'm not using the keyboard so
 I'm not anywhere near the touchpad.
 
 Firefox 3 in Hardy is the first time I've ever noticed this bug. It
 never happened in Gutsy with FF2.
 
 I also occasionally notice spurious key presses being generated, eg in a
 terminal or gedit, if the key repeat gets turned on - in other words,
 without me doing any typing, suddenly characters spew out over whatever
 I'm working on (again, this has only happened since Hardy). Could a
 random spurious key press generated just after the mouse click be
 causing the menu selections?
 

At best we need step by step instructions on how to reproduce this
... starting with a clean firefox profile ... or even hardy install :)

Thanks!

 - Alexander

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[Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-06-02 Thread Rocko
In case this info helps, I actually did a clean install of Hardy 32bit
two days ago on a Dell XPS 1530 because I was unable to get wine to link
the 32 bit libs I needed in the amd64 version.

The problem with FF happens with a brand spanking new user profile with
no plugins. Normally I have just have the adblocker plus plugin (and the
adobe nonfree flash plugin).

After the clean install, I did the following:

1. I installed the nvidia driver with jockey-gtk, rebooted.

2. I ran:

sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk mysql-server mysql-query-browser
mysql-admin thunderbird openssh-server vpnc samba compizconfig-settings-
manager gqview libjpeg-progs vlc build-essential dmsetup linux-source
unrar libusb-dev audacity avidemux dvdrip gparted xinetd nautilus-
actions nautilus-share unison smartmontools powertop nvidia-settings
atop filezilla wine libqt4-gui libqt4-core partimage

3. I installed truecrypt-5.1a, skype 2.0.0.68 with dpkg.

4. I also built a version of vmware-server (v1.05 at present) and wine
(v rc3 patched from git at present) but the firefox bug was definitely
observable before this.

I'll bet the bug happens though just off the live cd...

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Re: [Bug 187313] Re: [MASTER] right click (with button release) might activate popup-menu-item

2008-06-02 Thread Alexander Sack
On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 01:34:58AM -, Rocko wrote:
 
 I'll bet the bug happens though just off the live cd...
 

Yes, the live CD still has both bugs. RC1 will be soon in
-updates. at that point only the random selection issue will be left
until upstream has proper fix.

 - Alexander

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