[Bug 316373]
(In reply to Christoph Anton Mitterer from comment #21) It seems that all other major browsers support it already (well it's eleven(!) years old). Did you check that? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 316373]
@Phoenix, sure... it works with Chromium and Epiphany, which makes me blindly guess that it's supported by webkit, which would make it supported by Opera and Safari as well. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Adding worthwhile comment IMO, Safari does not support XML 1.1, look at feature list: http://www.apple.com/safari/features.html Under Advanced Web Technologies only XML 1.0 support is mentioned. Which makes me believe that Webkit does not support XML 1.1. Opera - Presto engine is doomed. Other major browser engine left is Internet Explorer (Trident). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Chrome et al don't support XML 1.1. E.g. load data:text/xml,?xml version=1.1?/ and witness warning on line 1 at column 19: Unsupported version '1.1'. What they have done however it seems is implemented XML 1.0 5th Edition which allows for any number after 1.. E.g. ?xml version=1.9?x/ will work in Chrome too. I guess at some point we should get together and decide what version of XML we all want to support forever... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to Christoph Anton Mitterer from comment #25) Well... there are only 4-5 major browser... IE, FF, Chrome, Safari and perhaps Opera Only 3, and one of them have two versions each of those have same share as two others have by themselves. Safari? Opera? Major only in mobile world ), and as Zlip792 noted you again failed, this time with Safari ;) Anyway, FF devs stated clearly enough and I'm not sure that they change their mind even if you provide patch, not only arguing for adding support. I'm out of this. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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WebKit was not even present eleven years old. Could you attach a sample XML 1.1 file to prove that only Firefox can't open it? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Bug 501837 is already present for XML 1.0 5th edition. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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If we ever start changing the XML parser, I think we should go all the way to XML5 and not bother with intermediate steps. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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You said about major browsers, I don't see any of those in your list -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Well... there are only 4-5 major browser... IE, FF, Chrome, Safari and perhaps Opera FF lacks support IE, don't know but even if it would, it's probably a bad idea to take IE as example and all the others are webkit based and though should support it... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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To be honest, Mozilla,… as so many things you do… this is just ridiculous. XML 1.1 is simply the newest version of XML,... it's standardised, it's recommended and it works just fine. It seems that all other major browsers support it already (well it's eleven(!) years old). You really became so much like Microsoft... deciding against well established standards and coming up with your own stuff. Deciding against well working formats for obscure reasons just you don't like them... and this bug tracker already records so many of these cases (MNG, WebP, JPEG2000). You don't let the users their freedom and have the community decided which standards and formats are widely used, but you forcibly take those decisions ... well as I've said... just as Microsoft does and did in the past. You even admit (see the other bug reports), that you'd only start supporting new formats that you don't like, if massive pressure would be put on Mozilla so that you have no choice... as it happened with H.264... even though this is a bad example, as you supported evil there. Really disturbing. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 316373]
*** Bug 904668 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Interesting, but normative? Just because the W3C has published something an normative does not mean that it's a good idea or something that Mozilla should implement. As seen from the blog post that dbaron referenced, even the XML Core WG has given up on 1.1. They still try to introduce some of the backwards- incompatible changes as 1.0 5th ed. Backwards-incompatible changes don't make sense for formats that have Draconian error handling. I expect XML support in Firefox to stay at 1.0 4th ed. Moving to 5th ed. would just amount to handing vocabulary designers a footgun that takes a spec lawyer to debug. There will always be 4th ed. and earlier parsers around, so it will continue to be a terrible idea to use the characters allowed by 5th ed. but not 4th ed. in an XML vocabulary. (Since such vocabularies will fail spectacularly in 4th ed. parsers.) If we expect reasonable vocabulary designers not to actually use the new stuff from the 5th ed., supporting the 5th ed. doesn't add any value to Firefox. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to David Baron [:dbaron] (don't cc:, use needinfo? instead) from comment #17) See http://norman.walsh.name/production/2008/02/07/xml105e Interesting, but normative? XML 1.1 may have issues, but it's definitely not DOA. Is there somewhere else we could discuss this so we don't clutter up the bug? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Till proper explanation -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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See http://norman.walsh.name/production/2008/02/07/xml105e -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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This is not going to happen. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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@Anne: any further explanation why? There's more to life (and the Web) than HTML 5, you know. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 316373] Re: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1
** Changed in: firefox Status: Confirmed = Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 316373] Re: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1
** Changed in: firefox-3.5 (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to Malcolm Rowe from comment #1) Just as a guess, it's not a valid XML 1.0 document (it's not), and we don't have an XML 1.1 parser. XML 1.0 parsers can't parse XML 1.1 documents under any circumstances, as far I can see. We could change this bug into a RFE to start using an XML 1.1 parser, but I think that would depend upon support in a future version of the Expat parser (XML 1.1 support isn't in Expat 1.2, the current stable version, nor is it planned for Expat 2.0, which is in development, or event Expat 3.0). See http://www.libexpat.org/dev/roadmap.html for more information. Actually, according to the W3C, an XML 1.0 parser will parse any 1.x document as 1.0 Note: When an XML 1.0 processor encounters a document that specifies a 1.x version number other than '1.0', it will process it as a 1.0 document. This means that an XML 1.0 processor will accept 1.x documents provided they do not use any non-1.0 features. -- Quoted from http://www.w3.org/TR/xml/#xmldoc So even if you can't parse XML 1.1 per se, that still doesn't mean you can't just treat it as XML 1.0 . I do still recommend somehow adding XML 1.1 support, though. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 Title: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/316373/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 316373] Re: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1
In the XML 1.0 specification, an XML 1.0 parser should parse any XML 1.x documents as XML 1.0 Ref: http://www.w3.org/TR/xml/#xmldoc -- Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 316373] Re: firefox can't parse xml 1.1 documents
Moving to Firefox 3.5 as Firefox 2 is no longer supported and Firefox 3.0 is only receiving security updates. ** Also affects: firefox via https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=233154 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Package changed: firefox (Ubuntu) = firefox-3.5 (Ubuntu) ** Changed in: firefox-3.5 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist ** Changed in: firefox-3.5 (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Triaged ** Summary changed: - firefox can't parse xml 1.1 documents + Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 -- Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 316373] Re: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1
Either add support or make parser parse 1.1 files like 1.0 -- Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 316373] Re: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1
This bug has been reported to the developers of the software. You can track it and make comments at: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=233154 We cannot make a change like this. Mozilla would have to do it. You're welcome to comment upstream on possible solutions. Artem Karimov wrote: Either add support or make parser parse 1.1 files like 1.0 -- Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 316373] Re: Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1
** Changed in: firefox Status: Unknown = Confirmed -- Firefox - Add support for XML 1.1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 316373] Re: firefox can't parse xml 1.1 documents
All Firefox Versions have this bug. There is no special Ubuntu bug. Look at: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=233154 ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #233154 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=233154 -- firefox can't parse xml 1.1 documents https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 316373] Re: firefox can't parse xml 1.1 documents
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. You reported this bug a while ago and there hasn't been any activity in it recently. We were wondering if this is still an issue for you. Can you try with the latest version of Firefox? Thanks in advance. I was not able to duplicate in Firefox 3.0.10 and Firefox 3.5b5pre. ** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete -- firefox can't parse xml 1.1 documents https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 316373] [NEW] firefox can't parse xml 1.1 documents
Public bug reported: consider this xhtml 1.1 document: ?xml version=1.1 encoding=utf-8? !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; version=-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN xml:lang=en head title test /title /head body p test /p /body /html XML Parsing Error: XML declaration not well-formed Location: file:///home/michael/test.xhtml Line Number 1, Column 16:?xml version=1.1 encoding=utf-8? ---^ when i change the xml version into 1.0, everything works perfectly. ** Affects: firefox (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- firefox can't parse xml 1.1 documents https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316373 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
