[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2016-01-19 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: upstart (Debian)
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2016-01-19 Thread Bug Watch Updater
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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2015-07-07 Thread Tore Anderson
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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2015-07-07 Thread Tore Anderson
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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2014-08-25 Thread wdoekes
Nice tip MarcS. That is indeed better than the other workarounds.

Here, a quick script -- cleanup-upstart.sh -- that checks initctl list
for stalled processes and kills them:


#!/bin/sh
# vim: set ts=8 sw=4 sts=4 et ai tw=71:

upstart_spawn_and_stop() {
name=$1
pid=$2

pkill -xf 'sleep 11'  echo killed old sleep process
echo $((pid-2)) |
sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/ns_last_pid /dev/null 
sh -c 'sleep 11 '
sleeppid=`pgrep -xf 'sleep 11'`
if test $sleeppid != $pid; then
echo looks like we did not get the right pid..
return 1
fi
parentpid=`ps -o%P -p$pid | sed -e1d`
if test $parentpid -eq 1; then
echo very well.. we've got a live pid
else
echo looks like it got the wrong parent.. started from X?
return 1
fi
return 0
}

pkill -xf 'sleep 11'  echo killed old sleep process
initctl list | tac | while read line; do
procpid=`echo $line | awk '{print $4}'`
if ! test -d /proc/$procpid; then
procname=`echo $line | awk '{print $1}'`
echo $procname:
if upstart_spawn_and_stop $procname $procpid; then
initctl status $name
initctl stop $name  # Terminated?
fi
fi
done

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2014-08-25 Thread wdoekes
And I'm happy to say that things are moving to systemd. My cron.conf now
looks #44 just so cron gets the right locale in 14.04. I'm baffled that
that's the best I can come up with with upstart. If there is a better
way, please enlighten me.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2014-08-17 Thread Juri Haberland
No, just look at the script stanzas used in the statd.conf or
winbind.conf as an example.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2014-08-16 Thread Christian Hudon
This makes it impossible to use upstart with any daemon where you want
to source settings from /etc/default (using a script stanza).

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2014-05-27 Thread MarcS
I ran into this again and found a new (?) way of fixing the situation
once it has happened that is slightly less crazy than the exhaust-all-
pids script: The /proc/sys/kernel/ns_last_pid knob can be used to get a
process with the correct PID.

I used
echo $(($n-2)) | sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/ns_last_pid  bash -c 'sleep 60 '

Where $n is the PID that upstart is tracking (output of 'status'). The
-2 is necessary because the bash process gets a pid first. The sleep
should wind up with the tracked PID and as a child of the init process.

Maybe there is a simpler way, but this worked for me.

Note that is a relatively new kernel feature. It works with the saucy
kernel, I don't know about earlier releases.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2014-05-18 Thread Camilo Aguilar
holy cow, 2014 and this issue is not solved yet. I just got bitten by it
too.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2013-10-15 Thread J G Miller
This issue also seems to be the cause of difficulties with minidlna if
the -R flag is added to rescan the media files directory because
minidlnad creates an additional process to do the rescanning.  So if
expect daemon is used for the two process at startup, then the shutdown
runs into difficulties because there is only one process to be killed,
the rescan process having ended by itself.

So until a fix is found for upstart, users should be advised not to add
-R for rescan to the upstart configuration file, and that if they need
to do a rescan at startup, use the traditional sysV  rc init.d script
and not upstart to start and stop the daemon.

It would also be very useful if there was some initctl command to wipe that 
state of service jobs which are in a bad state eg
 minidlna stop/killed, process 5114  or minidlna start/killed, process 5114
since once the upstart job gets into this state, using start or stop results in 
upstart hanging on

connect(3, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=@/com/ubuntu/upstart}, 22) = 0
fcntl64(3, F_GETFL) = 0x2 (flags O_RDWR)
fcntl64(3, F_SETFL, O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK)  = 0
geteuid32() = 0
getsockname(3, {sa_family=AF_FILE, NULL}, [2]) = 0
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLOUT}], 1, 0)= 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLOUT}])
send(3, \0, 1, MSG_NOSIGNAL)  = 1
send(3, AUTH EXTERNAL 30\r\n, 18, MSG_NOSIGNAL) = 18
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1)= 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLIN}])
read(3, OK 37d274edad794a392790c969525d3..., 2048) = 37
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLOUT}], 1, -1)   = 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLOUT}])
send(3, NEGOTIATE_UNIX_FD\r\n, 19, MSG_NOSIGNAL) = 19
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1)= 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLIN}])
read(3, AGREE_UNIX_FD\r\n, 2048)  = 15
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLOUT}], 1, -1)   = 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLOUT}])
send(3, BEGIN\r\n, 7, MSG_NOSIGNAL)   = 7
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN|POLLOUT}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLOUT}])
sendmsg(3, {msg_name(0)=NULL, 
msg_iov(2)=[{l\1\2\1\r\0\0\0\1\0\0\0_\0\0\0\1\1o\0\23\0\0\0/com/ubu..., 112}, 
{\10\0\0\0minidlna\0, 13}], msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, MSG_NOSIGNAL) = 
125
clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {13369, 479497006}) = 0
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}], 1, 25000) = 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLIN}])
recvmsg(3, {msg_name(0)=NULL, 
msg_iov(1)=[{l\2\1\1\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\17\0\0\0\5\1u\0\1\0\0\0\10\1g\0\1o\0\0...,
 2048}], msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC}, MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC) = 70
recvmsg(3, 0xbfd42610, MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily 
unavailable)
sendmsg(3, {msg_name(0)=NULL, 
msg_iov(2)=[{l\1\2\1\4\0\0\0\2\0\0\0x\0\0\0\1\1o\0!\0\0\0/com/ubu..., 136}, 
{\0\0\0\0, 4}], msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, MSG_NOSIGNAL) = 140
clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {13369, 504154425}) = 0
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}], 1, 25000) = 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLIN}])
recvmsg(3, {msg_name(0)=NULL, 
msg_iov(1)=[{l\2\1\1(\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\17\0\0\0\5\1u\0\2\0\0\0\10\1g\0\1o\0\0...,
 2048}], msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC}, MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC) = 72
recvmsg(3, 0xbfd425d0, MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily 
unavailable)
sendmsg(3, {msg_name(0)=NULL, 
msg_iov(2)=[{l\1\2\1\10\0\0\0\3\0\0\0q\0\0\0\1\1o\0!\0\0\0/com/ubu..., 136}, 
{\0\0\0\0\1\0\0\0, 8}], msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, MSG_NOSIGNAL) = 144
clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {13369, 509531849}) = 0
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1)= 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLIN}])
recvmsg(3, {msg_name(0)=NULL, 
msg_iov(1)=[{l\4\1\1\t\0\0\0\3\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0#\0\0\0/com/ubu..., 2048}], 
msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC}, MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC) = 145
recvmsg(3, 0xbfd42700, MSG_CMSG_CLOEXEC) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily 
unavailable)
clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {13369, 516260329}) = 0
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}], 1, -7)= ? ERESTART_RESTARTBLOCK (To be 
restarted)

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2013-10-01 Thread James Hunt
** Changed in: upstart
 Assignee: (unassigned) = James Hunt (jamesodhunt)

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2013-03-14 Thread Wade Fitzpatrick
I had a problem with john miller's bash script because bash didn't die
quickly enough for the microsleep to get re-parented by init (upstart),
so here is a better version:

#!/bin/bash

usleep 1 
firstPID=$!
#first lets exhaust the space
while (( $! = $firstPID ))
do
usleep 1 
done

# [ will use testPID itself, we want to use the next pid
declare -i testPID
testPID=$(($1 - 1))
while (( $!  $testPID ))
do
usleep 1 
done

# fork a background process then die so init reaps its pid
sleep 3 
echo Init will reap PID=$!
kill -9 $$
# EOF

Example usage:
# sh /tmp/upstart_fix.sh 19915
Init will reap PID=19915
Killed

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2012-09-12 Thread john miller
I use it with respawn with out an issue just make sure you kill
everything/clean up in post-stop. I do the same kill/cleanup in pre-
start just to be sure.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2012-09-04 Thread Jeff Lambert
John Miller: THANK YOU!!! Only thing is I'm not sure if this is
compatible with respawn

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2012-09-01 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: upstart (Debian)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2012-08-31 Thread john miller
I came up with a hack to use upstart with applications that fork more
than twice to use until the rewrite makes it downstream. It works for my
application on my system. YMMV.

1.start the application in the pre-start section
2.in the script section run a script that runs as long as the application 
runs. The pid of this script is what upstart will track.
3.in the post-stop section kill the application

example

env DAEMON=/usr/bin/forky-application

pre-start script
su -s /bin/sh -c $DAEMON joeuseraccount
end script

script 
sleepWhileAppIsUp(){
while pidof $1 /dev/null; do
sleep 1
done
}

sleepWhileAppIsUp $DAEMON
end script

post-stop script
if pidof $DAEMON;
then
kill `pidof $DAEMON`
#pkill  $DAEMON # post-stop process (19300) terminated with status 1
fi
end script

a similar approach could be taken with pid files.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2012-08-30 Thread john miller
Could upstart track an arbitrary number of forks? instead of limiting to
1 (expect fork) or 2 (expect daemon) could expect N be supported?

Also here is a bash script to exhaust the pid space if your system does
not have ruby.

pass the pid upstart is waiting for as an argument like this
exhaustPIDspace.sh 11920

#!/bin/bash

usleep 1 
firstPID=$!
#first lets exhaust the space
while [ $! -ge $firstPID ]
do
usleep 1 
done

while [ $! -le $1 ]
do
usleep 1 
done

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2012-08-16 Thread Clint Byrum
It seems to me that upstart could forget about a pid if it can verify
that it has in fact disappeared. I've seen quite a few people bit by
this bug in #upstart on Freenode and on various forum sites. Because I
think the impact is perhaps higher than we might have originally
anticipated, I'd suggest that upstart devs raise the priority to High.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2012-05-09 Thread Lars Düsing
** No longer affects: aiccu (Ubuntu)

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2012-01-11 Thread Lekensteyn
** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #582745
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=582745

** Also affects: upstart (Debian) via
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=582745
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2012-01-11 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: upstart (Debian)
   Status: Unknown = New

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2011-12-08 Thread Michael Gliwinski
Given that the PID would be killed pretty much as soon as it started and
that you're most likely to trigger this while writing an unstart job for
a daemon, I'd agree that the potential for serious problems is low.

However, I don't think this is a user error/mistake, some daemons are
just more awkward than others, may require scripts, etc., I don't think
it's reasonable to expect every daemon out there to be re-written to
play well.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2011-12-08 Thread Lars Düsing
oh, i see... this idea was turned down. sorry.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2011-12-08 Thread Michael Gliwinski
Yeah, as Scott already mentioned, pidfiles introduce their own set of
problems, but also they aren't a solution for all use cases.  E.g. the
daemon I was dealing with does not have any way to write out a pidfile,
forks multiple times, requires a script to do some setup before it's
launched, and is a third party and closed source, so I can't do anything
about this mess ;)

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2011-11-23 Thread Mark Hurenkamp
While implementing a new upstart script, i also ran into this problem,
and am now stuck with a job waiting for a non-existing pid.

I think the worst-case scenario has not been mentioned yet, which is
that when the actual pid does appear, it will be killed by this job
thinking it is the process it has been waiting to kill. This could be a
harmless process (or even created for that purpose by a script mentioned
above), but it could also be a critical process. Thus the bug is less
harmless than it appears to be.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2011-11-23 Thread Peter Júnoš
According to Mark Hurenkamp's comment, severity of this bug should be set to 
Critical.
Image your very important app got the same PID as non-existent process had.
Then Upstart:
- causes data corruption - imagine you are editing your photos and something 
kills your application during rewrite of a photo
- severely affects applications beyond the package responsible for the root 
cause - any application can be killed (crashing) randomly

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2011-11-23 Thread Clint Byrum
Peter, I understand that this is a dangerous bug. However, it is quite
detectable when a user has made the mistake, and avoidable by taking
care when creating new jobs. So I think Medium is appropriate, as there
are workarounds, and the potential for these problems is quite low.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2011-10-23 Thread Jiří Stránský
Scott, would it be possible to add the thing that David Ressman
suggested, please? Something to manually reset a job state without
restarting the machine.

I'm a newbie to upstart and this bug is really annoying as it requires
me to restart my machine when I write the conf in a wrong way... Makes
debugging a nightmare.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2011-10-10 Thread Michael Gliwinski
Likewise to using a script stanza, this is also a problem when a script
that actually starts a daemon is specified in `exec'.

Although it wouldn't help with the original problem (avahi-deamon), for
scripts a workaround/fix could be if you could tell upstart the name of
the final executable, so it could ignore forks that exec another
executable.  Don't know if that's feasible?

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2011-07-25 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Changed in: aiccu (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2011-06-14 Thread Rich Wales
I think I'm running into this bug on an Ubuntu Lucid server.  I tried to
install the rsyslog package on this server, but the start / stop /
restart functions would never complete (hangs forever).  In the end, I
had to abandon rsyslog and go back to sysklogd — bad solution, I need
rsyslog, but I obviously don't have a choice if it simply won't work.

There are a bunch of other packages on this same server which use
upstart-job as their init scripts; they seem to work OK as far as I'm
aware, but the fact that rsyslog won't work makes me nervous.

Lucid is supposed to be an LTS release with support until 2015 (server
edition), but is that fact going to help me in practice (i.e., is
upstart ever going to be fixed for Lucid)?  If I were to decide to
upgrade this server to Maverick, is there any realistic reason to
suppose that would help?

Should I simply scrounge around for an old-style init script for rsyslog
to run on this server?

Is there some other solution I should be looking at?

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2011-06-02 Thread David Ressman
Out of curiosity, why can't a piece be written into init that allows one
to manually remove processes from the state table?

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2011-04-29 Thread Anand Chitipothu
Thanks Guido Scalise. That fixed it.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2011-04-26 Thread Anand Chitipothu
If I notice a start/killed or stop/killed job, is there any way to get
rid of it other than rebooting the machine?

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2011-04-26 Thread Guido Scalise
Anand, there's a rather harsh workaround using a ruby script you can download 
here:
http://heh.fi/tmp/workaround-upstart-snafu

It worked for me, but, as I said, the approach is quite aggressive.

Basically it forks new dummy, short-lived, processes until the PID
sequence restarts. Then, when one of these subprocesses gets the
blocked PID, it waits until upstart kills it, thus unlocking the job's
state.

I didn't see any side effects, but YMMV.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2011-03-31 Thread Tim Nicholas
I personally think being different from everyone else is a problem.

Also, this is the sort of bug that should be architecturally impossible
in an init system. init shouldn't have to track state perfectly to
function on the basic level of 'start jobs' 'stop jobs'.

I understand there are benefits for workstations with this (boot speed
etc), but for a server upstart is notably less good than old-school init
- even without the bugs, it's still very opaque - what with its lack of
logging etc.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2011-03-24 Thread Tim Nicholas
Thanks for your help Clint.

Is Ubuntu still intending to stick with upstart in future releases?

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2011-03-24 Thread Johan Kiviniemi
This specific issue will be fixed in a future release of Upstart with
robust fork tracking. Is there a specific reason to switch? It’s not as
if there are better alternatives out there. :-)

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2011-03-08 Thread Clint Byrum
Tim, I'm sorry that you're experiencing the issue. I believe that squid
may have always had this issue and we only stirred it up by updating
squid.

There is a really scary workaround available which is to create a
program that exhausts the pid-space until tracked pid exists again, and
then upstart will be able to re-attach and kill it...

http://heh.fi/tmp/workaround-upstart-snafu

I do think that we may need something a little less perfect than a full
rewrite of the ptrace tracker that we could possibly backport to lucid.
There seems to be a missing command that would allow an administrator to
tell upstart to just forget about an instance.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2011-03-07 Thread Tim Nicholas
I've been bitten by this with squid after having to kill the squid
processes as a result of the upgrade process borking on 10.04 (LTS).

I was upgrading to this:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/squid/2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.2
replacing squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.

I assume I'm missing something, cos it looks a lot like I'm fucked and I
need to reboot to get squid to start from init again.

Surely not...

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2010-12-11 Thread Peter Júnoš
When will be that rewrite complete?

Or anyone has workaround, how to kill start/killed or stop/killed job?
It could be only one-time job / script.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2010-09-01 Thread Scott James Remnant
This and bug #530779 are fundamental due to Upstart's use of ptrace()
for fork following - a rewrite of Upstart is in progress which uses
other newer kernel mechanisms to follow forks and would not be
vulnerable to this kind of issue. However there's no quick fix to it,
and no way to backport that code.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2010-05-09 Thread Jacek Konieczny
** Also affects: pld-linux
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2010-05-08 Thread Jacek Konieczny
I had the same problem with Upstart 0.6.5.  Job locked at the 'killed'
state when the process Upstart waited for didn't even exist. This is
quite a serious problem as:

1. Can happen when the job 'expect fork|daemon' stanza does not match
what the process really does. And when it happens fixing the job
description won't help, as a job with same name cannot be started any
more.

2. Even worse: the system won't even shut down properly – it will stay
waiting for the 'killed' job to finish which will never happen. Not
good, when the shutdown is reboot during remote trouble-shooting.

The solution seem 'obvious' to me: don't wait for a process that doesn't
even exist (even in a 'zombie'  state). Or do I miss something?

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2010-04-26 Thread Scott James Remnant
** Changed in: upstart
   Importance: Low = Medium

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2010-04-17 Thread Lars Düsing
Oh, sorry, I completely misunderstood your message.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2010-04-07 Thread Scott James Remnant
For sanity's sake, I'm closing the Ubuntu tasks for upstream Upstart
bugs.  I've experimented with having both, but it is just making bugs
hard to find now.  Will use the policy whereby bugs on the Ubuntu
package exist in the Ubuntu packaging or patches only, any bugs in the
Upstart code are Upstream bugs.

** Changed in: upstart (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Invalid

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AW: [Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2010-04-07 Thread Lars Düsing
Has anybody forwarded this problem to upstream?

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Re: AW: [Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2010-04-07 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 18:47 +, Lars Düsing wrote:

 Has anybody forwarded this problem to upstream?
 
Ubuntu are upstream for Upstart (I wrote it!)

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2010-04-05 Thread PFudd
Hi...

I got bitten by this bug earlier today.

I was attempting to set 'autossh' to be respawned, via a new
autossh.conf file.  I copied the cron.conf file, and changed the exec
line to the appropriate autossh command line, and left the rest the
same.  The mistake was that autossh doesn't fork into the background,
but 'expect fork' was set.

The outcome was that 'initctl stop autossh' and 'initctl start autossh'
both hang, and I had to copy autossh.conf to autossh2.conf and delete
the 'expect fork' line before I could get autossh to run.  I can't get
rid of the old autossh entry in 'initctl list', except possibly by
rebooting.  Since I'm remotely logged in, I don't want to do that unless
I'm confident my connection is going to work... yay, catch-22.

exec /usr/bin/autossh -M 81 -N -R 29:127.0.0.1:22 servername

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2010-01-11 Thread Adam Nelson
I would vote for this to be higher priority.  For anybody who doesn't
know 'old' init, it's frustrating to have to learn all the old syntax
just to get common stuff like Apache running properly.  In my case, I
need a custom Xvfb service and there's nothing out there right now.
Apache already has maintained service scripts, but other programs don't.

If not increasing the priority of the ticket, can the Ubuntu docs be
updated to reflect that Upstart is not ready for mainline users to start
moving init scripts to the format?

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Re: [Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2009-12-13 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 09:55 +, Lars Düsing wrote:

 I'm wondering why this bug has a importance of low, as it renders
 using upstart for many daemons (including apache, postfix and others) as
 impossible.
 
Because conversion of those daemons over to Upstart is not a priority;
just carry on using the existing init script.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2009-12-12 Thread Lars Düsing
I'm wondering why this bug has a importance of low, as it renders
using upstart for many daemons (including apache, postfix and others) as
impossible.

** Changed in: aiccu (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = In Progress

** Changed in: aiccu (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress = New

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2009-12-12 Thread Lars Düsing
Back to the bug itself again: A very evil solution would be checking the
lowest pid of the daemon (ok, you have to look out when pids are
starting again from zero again...)

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2009-11-15 Thread Lars Düsing
After looking into aiccu deeper, I see you have a real problem. You keep
the first pid you get from the first fork/clone. At least aiccu uses
multiple threads on initialization:

l...@artus:~$ sudo strace -o aiccu.log aiccu start
l...@artus:~$ grep clone aiccu.log 
clone(child_stack=0, flags=CLONE_PARENT_SETTID|SIGCHLD, 
parent_tidptr=0xbfe8ca94) = 2992
clone(child_stack=0, flags=CLONE_PARENT_SETTID|SIGCHLD, 
parent_tidptr=0xbfe8ca94) = 2994
clone(child_stack=0, flags=CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID|CLONE_CHILD_SETTID|SIGCHLD, 
child_tidptr=0xb773e938) = 2996
l...@artus:~$ ps aux|grep aiccu
root  2996  0.0  0.0  19732   832 ?Ssl  10:39   0:00 aiccu start
l...@artus:~$ service aiccu status
aiccu start/running, process 2992
l...@artus:~$ ps aux|grep 2992
lars  3049  0.0  0.0   3040   792 pts/0R+   10:41   0:00 grep 2992

That means: you track pid 2992, which is only used during
initialization. Real pid is 2996.

On service aiccu stop you try to kill pid 2992 - which is not there,
and you keep stuck in a inifinite loop.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2009-11-15 Thread Lars Düsing
** Also affects: aiccu (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2009-10-04 Thread Daniel Hahler
It would be a good workaround in this case though..

I'm not saying that pidfile should get used by default, but it's a
nice option to have in case the program's pidfile behavior is sane.

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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2009-10-03 Thread Daniel Hahler
A good workaround for this might be pidfile handling, where upstart
would use a given pidfile for monitoring the job.

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Re: [Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2009-10-03 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 15:10 +, Daniel Hahler wrote:

 A good workaround for this might be pidfile handling, where upstart
 would use a given pidfile for monitoring the job.
 
Ugh, god no.

Do you know how many bugs there are with a system of requiring
applications to write the correct pid to a file?  Do you know how many
major problems you introduce if they get it wrong?

The solution is to use something like cgroups or the proc_connector to
track multiple processes.

Scott
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[Bug 406397] Re: init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

2009-10-02 Thread Scott James Remnant
This also happens when you use expect fork or expect daemon combined
with script, Upstart ends up following the first spawned child whose
exit status is reaped by the shell.  For example:

  script
  ARGS=$(cat /etc/default/myservice)
  exec /sbin/myservice $ARGS
  end script

Upstart ends up with the pid of cat, and never receives SIGCHLD for
it.  So stays in running indefinitely, and when you try and stop it,
hangs in stop/killed

** Summary changed:

- init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child (avahi-daemon)
+ init: job stuck with expect fork/daemon when parent reaps child

** Also affects: upstart (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: upstart (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Triaged

** Changed in: upstart (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Low

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