[Bug 412449] Re: Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive
** Changed in: gvfs Status: New => Expired -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/412449 Title: Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gvfs/+bug/412449/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 412449] Re: Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive
** Changed in: gvfs Importance: Unknown => Medium -- Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/412449 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 412449] Re: Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive
Right, not discussing that this is an issue it's rather a corner case and non trivial change though and the current ubuntu team doesn't have the ressources to deal with those changes in a distribution specific way -- Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/412449 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 412449] Re: Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive
Sebastien, if by aggressive tone, you mean my "justify that claim" comment, it was an echo of your request that I justify why I want to "unmount a partition on the disk". To be fair, I wouldn't have to unmount if it hadn't been mounted in the first place. :-) But I could have put a smiley or two into the comment. And there really does seem to be this thinking that removable media are always single use things like jump drives, when they are also removable hard drives in docking bays, external drives on eSATA and USB, etc. The people talking about separating device and volume clearly understand the more complex issue. -- Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/412449 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 412449] Re: Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive
You are arguing at the wrong place we mainly distribute this code and to be fair your agressive tone doesn't make me want to look at your issue -- Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/412449 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 412449] Re: Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive
> automounting is a good idea on removal devices Justify that claim. I concur with you in the case where there is only one mountable partition on the removable device, but NOT when there are multiple. That's where this whole thing, including removal, is mis- handled. Consider, for example, the handling of my Ultrabay. I pop in a drive with half a dozen partitions, and the first thing that you want to do is mount them all. WRONG! Stop thinking of removable media as single use toys. -- Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/412449 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 412449] Re: Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive
the automounting is a good idea on removal devices though which is the case in this example -- Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/412449 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 412449] Re: Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive
In Bug 396448, Martin Pitt lists additional reasons why the auto- mounting of multiple partitions is a Really Bad Idea. -- Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/412449 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 412449] Re: Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive
** Changed in: gvfs Status: Unknown => New -- Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/412449 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 412449] Re: Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive
Why is this marked as Incomplete? Are you asking me to justify why this regression is broken? Why do I want to unmount a volume?! I don't want it mounted in the first place! OK, it is probably acceptable to mount the single volume when a drive is attached, whereas nhen a drive with multiple volumes is attached, NONE should be auto-mounted, rather than all. But at least one can go into apps/nautilus/preferences and turn off media_automount and media_automount_open. However, I don't want the entire drive removed just because I have unmounted a volume! Why might I unmount it? Oh, let's see: a) I want to run fsck b) I want to run dd c) I want to run other utilities that want to operate on UNMOUNTED volumes d) I might be backing up volumes, and need precise control over when and where they are mounted e) I might just be paranoid, and prefer to keep unused volumes unmounted f) etc. As noted in the upstream report, "in order to use the device again, you will have to replug it", which basically repeats the cycle. Here's another little tidbit for you: if you turn off automount, and then MANUALLY mount the volume(s) you want, when you click the "eject" icon, the old behavior is back: it only unmounts, rather than removes. As noted upstream, a solution would be to display both the drive AND the volumes, such that DRIVES are removed and VOLUMES are unmounted. That GUI change would be satisfactory. -- Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/412449 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 412449] Re: Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive
** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => Triaged ** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) -- Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/412449 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 412449] Re: Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive
** Also affects: gvfs via http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=576587 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/412449 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 412449] Re: Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive
Thank you for your bug report, why do you need to unmount a partition on the disk? Read http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=576587 for discussion about the change ** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #576587 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=576587 ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Wishlist ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete ** Package changed: nautilus (Ubuntu) => gvfs (Ubuntu) -- Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/412449 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 412449] Re: Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive
** Attachment added: "new-drive-mis-behavior.log" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30218493/new-drive-mis-behavior.log -- Incorrect mount/umount/REMOVE behavior of USB drive https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/412449 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
