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Just tested the Hardy Heron Alpha6 release on LiveCD, and this bug seems to not
appear anymore for me.
The HDD (EIDE) emits the little park sound, about 2 sec before the system
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The Hardy Heron Alpha series was recently released which contains an
updated version of the kernel. You can download and try the new Hardy
Heron Alpha release from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/ .
You should be able to then test the new kernel via the LiveCD. If you
can, please verify
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maybe it's a result of huge massives of file storing as you do in windows...
i dont believe people suffer from that weird sound if they have an extra
partion for large binary objects.
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Power-Off_Retract_Count did not increase, is this mean the HDD park
perfectly before power off??
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Yes I think it does.
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Perhaps you didn't go throuigh the instructions properly. Could you post
the EXACT steps which you followed? By exact steps I mean complete with
the values that apply for your computer.
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Oh just so you know, it should be chmod +x /etc/rc0.d/S00hdd-shutdown-
workaround. You're supposed to replace filename with the appropriate
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keatliang2005, I think that a slight click on shutdown is perfectly
normal. Still, the sound you are hearing may not be the usual shutdown
click but the bug. As far as I know you can pretty easily make sure if
you are suffering from the bug or not:
1)Go to terminal, press F11 (to achieve full
erm.. is ok already the Power-Off_Retract_Count wont increase any
more but the sound tick still present wired
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The tick sound is probably during the proper shutdown of the hard disk.
After all, the hard disk must park its read-head before it powers off so
that in case of any jarring/jolting, the damages to the hard disk can be
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Well the workaround which has been shown above works. I've a friend who
had confirmed that it worked on his computer. Perhaps sometime soon the
backports team will backport the Gutsy kernel over.
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It's nice to see the kernel change has fixed this issue but as you guys
pointed out, it still exists in .20. Fiesty's support is supposed to
last for some time and the bug-fixes should be kept active.
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This bug has been solved with the 2.6.22 kernel in all the distros I've
tried that had the problem before. So if you are using any kernel that
is older than that (gutsy is the first to carry it in the ubuntu line),
then you are still going to experience the problem. AFAIK, no
backporting was
Or you can upgrade to the beta now. There are very few issues left in
Gutsy. After all, it'll be released in a week and a half from now.
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There are instructions to how to upgrade to gutsy's kernel on feisty on the
ubuntuforums site.
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Or you can upgrade to the beta now. There are very few issues left in
Gutsy. After all, it'll be released in a week and a half from now.
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Just to update this bug report - this issue is still apparent. I
recently bought a pre-installed Ubuntu Dell laptop Inspiron 6400, and
noticed that I had a 'dink' when using shutdown.
A thread from the forums raised the issue (that I wasn't aware of), and
following the advice in here, I have
Lethe, if you bought a pre-installed Ubuntu laptop, then it's probably
using Feisty. The bug seems to be gone in Gutsy, which in prerelease
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I'm using a desktop with three IDE hard disks in it, all of which have
been detected as /dev/sd* after the switch from Feisty to Gutsy. I can
shutdown/hibernate/suspend with no problem. But then again, I've never
experienced the clicking sound problem because all the previous kernels
I used
The problem happens with me too.
Acer Aspire 1692 lmi, 1.73GHzM,Hard Disk hitachi 100GB,1GB ram memory, in my
system the partitions appears like SDAx and not like in 6.10(hdax).
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raggar wrote:
the kernel of Gutsy (2.6.22) solved the problem.
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If 2.6.22 solves the problem, fine.
But why does this lead to the status for linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu)
being changed from Confirmed to Fix
I think that changing the status of the bug is not accurate, feisty
users are still affected by this problem and I think that if security
bugs get fixed, critical bugs such as this one should be fixed as well.
Gutsy is still on alpha stage and not a lot of people can upgrade the
kernel manually,
I agree with the last two comments. The fact that this is fixed in the
newest kernel is wonderful, but it is not a real fix for users of 2.6.20
on Feisty. Do we really want to recommend to users to add the gutsy
sources to sources.list and update their kernel that way?? Some can do
that, but we
Exactly. There are plenty of problems with Gutsy's kernel as I've heard
and so it's not wise to think that upgrading to it is a wonderful
solution and everyone who experience this bug should do that.
Yes, I know that there are patches one can apply to its system to make
the noise go away but:
1)
Not solved in 2.6.20 apparently.
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the kernel of Gutsy (2.6.22) solved the problem.
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(Inspiron 6000 Dell) I upgraded my kernel to 2.6.22+ last night and the
soft-shutdown (through menu) works with no spinning sound anymore (and
the button shutdown still does). However, the system make a loud
spinning sound right after I remove my Buffalo external USB drive (even
after I unmounted
Ubuntu Feisty 7.04 here. Just want to confirm that it makes that
clicking + long spinning noise at menu-shutdown in Dell Inspiron 6000,
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Just to confirm, I have had this issue with all distros using 2.6.20.* and my
Hitachi HD. The 2.6.22+ kernel has resolved this issue!! I used it with Fiesty
and then upgraded to Gutsy tribe4. I will try Mint and Dream next and if I'm
brave enough I'll try some RPM distros too.
I hope this
According to
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=243021#c23, the
Power-Off_Retract_Count seems to be the correct counter for how
often your disk has undergone an emergency unload.
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Happens the same with my laptop Dell Inspiron 1501 and using Feisty
~$ uname -a
Linux laptop 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
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I confirm this bug on a acer aspire 5601, I'm using feisty 7.04.
~$ uname -a
Linux laptop 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
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The Power-Off_Retract_Count of my drive (SATA) is 358, and considering
that I have used Ubuntu 6.10 for nearly 6 months without a proper fix, I
think that number makes sense. Thanks Ubuntu, I'll go for SSD next time.
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System: IBM Thinkpad R40.
Hard drive: Hitachi Travelstar 80GN, Model Number: IC25N040ATMR04. It's a PATA
drive.
I observed this noise for the first time in Ubuntu 7.04. I had no such
problems with 6.06 or 6.10. Martin Koßler's workaround works fine.
I'd like to cite from
this is happening in my edgy install
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For those who might assume this is a hardware issue; Ubuntu Edgy or Windows XP
do not do this!
Whether its actually causing damage or not it certainly sounds like it is -
This should definately be a critical issue!
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Same for me on my Samsung X11 notebook like Tormod predicted. Does
anyone know if theres a possibility to get the driver from the last
kernel version again, e.g. through a option in /etc/modules or s.th.
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Martin, see comment #39 on that. But isn't your workaround in comment
#57 a much easier solution?
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Yes if I have to modify the initrd my workaround is much better so i'll
restore it in rcS.d.
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After the latest update the problem came back again. The devices are
mapped at /dev/sda and the bad sound is back again. And I cannot go back
to the kernel before the update.
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Someone can confirm me that the patch that add stop_on_shutdown is
still in the latest ubuntu 2.6.20 kernel? Thanks
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Hard drive now mapped to /dev/hda, but the fix didn't work for me.
On 5/29/07, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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The problem seems to be fixed for me.
With the latest kernel-update I noticed that my drive is mapped to /dev/hda
again (instead of sda). So I removed the workaround (which would not effect the
drive anyway since it doesnt show up /sys/class/scsi_disk/ anymore) and the hdd
still shuts down
Yes, confirmed. The problem is solved with the new kernel upgrade.
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NO, unconfirm!!!
Fix isn't working. Still have the hdd making noise when I shutdown the
system.
Also the harddisk still shows as /dev/sda.
Martin + Jan what kernel are you running? I'm running Ubuntu 7.04 with
kernel 2.6.20-16-generic
What did you do to get /dev/hda back?
Thanks,
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That is what I did this morning. We are on the same kernel.
I'm running a Dell Inspiron 9400 with a Hitachi 80GB harddisk
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If the reason it's fixed for Jan and Martin is that their disk drivers
have been reverted to /dev/hda, I would not qualify it as bug resolved.
It will then come back when your disk drivers are /dev/sda again, which
they might be in a future kernel. That said, this issue will probably be
solved
Fix doesn't work for everybody.
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/dev/hda.
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My drives are still mapped at /dev/sda. I can't say if the fix has
worked or not because I'm reluctant to turn off the stop_on_shutdown
workaround, but I'm confident that since my drives are still mapped as
sda, it hasn't worked for me either.
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The definitive patches [1] [2] have been merged in mainstream 2.6.22rc1.
I opened the bug #114683 to request changes in upstart shutdown(8).
[1]
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=9666f4009c22f6520ac3fb8a19c9e32ab973e828
[2]
@hetvliegend...,
I'm linking it in rcS.d instead what you are doing in rc0.d
Sxx means start during boot, kxx means kill during shutdown. When
putting the script in rsS.d it is always run during startup and this
means that the stop_on_shutdown parameter is always set. Doesn't matter
if you
I have tried More's workaround and it indeed works for shutdown,
suspend, and hibernate. (it never made a sound when rebooting)
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Same problem here with. The sound is like shuting down manually the
laptop. The laptop has Intel Centrino 1.6G and Hitachi 40G hard drive
(SCSI Device - ATA HITACHI_DK23FA-4).
I had no problems with edgy and dapper. If I boot with edgy kernel
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I tried the workaround of Martin and More. It didn't work for me.
I made a file in /etc/init.d with the following two lines:
#!/bin/sh
echo 1 /sys/class/scsi_device/0\:0\:0\:0/stop_on_shutdown
(only had to change scsi_disk for scsi_device)
then
sudo chmod +x filename
sudo ln -s
I noticed something weird in phpsysinfo, which I do not know if it has
to do with the bug or should I report a new one. With 2.6.17 the hd and
cdrom are shown as IDE and with 2.6.20 as SCSI devices. Here are the
interesting parts of the phpsysinfo.
Model Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz
That works for me, Tormod, thank you. Maybe this script could be added as an
intermediate solution, until a fix for the kernel can be released?
It would be great to not have the disks smashed up.
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Same problem to. feisty + asus laptop (M6v)... Thre strange situation is
that with edgy i didn't have this kind of problem... Even with dapper
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I confirm the problem in Feisty Fawn, stock kernel from CD, happens both by
hibernating and shutdown.
The HD is a Samsung PATA 80Gb.
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I confirm that in Feisty Fawn,using stock kernel.I have 2 WD HDDs..I
tried the solution with the script but it only works for one of the
disks.How can i do this for both of them?I didn't quite understand
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Aramil, for more than one disk, try this:
for disk in /sys/class/scsi_disk/* ; do echo 1 $disk/stop_on_shutdown ; done
(BTW, I personally prefer to add this to /etc/rc.local, instead of
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Early reports indicate that this patch likely does NOT solve the
problem.
The fact is that this is not a bug/regression of the kernel. It's a lack of
feature.
The early original patch here,
http://www.nabble.com/(fwd)--PATCH--sd:-implement-stop_on_shutdown-t3049703.html
, that was already
please try this immediately and report back?
Which version of the kernel this patch apply?
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please try this immediately and report back?
Which version of the kernel this patch apply?
Anything from about 2.6.18 onwards.
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Mark Lord wrote:
Francesco Pretto wrote:
please try this immediately and report back?
Which version of the kernel this patch apply?
Anything from about 2.6.18 onwards.
Early reports indicate that this patch likely does NOT solve the
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Early reports indicate that this patch likely does NOT solve the
problem.
Did not work for me on a fresh Ubuntu Feisty Fawn install but I'm sure
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We (libata kernel dudes) are working on a simpler kernel level fix for
this now, which may not require any immediate changes to scripts.
If anyone here can patch/rebuild kernels, then I have some code that
needs testing before we queue it into 2.6.21, and then make it available
for the Ubuntu
Oh, forgot we can do attachments here (duh!).
This is one patch that's being considered, which should get rid of the pop.
Can anyone here who has the problem please try this immediately and report back?
Thanks
** Attachment added: xx_libata_sync_cache_fix.patch
This problem also exists on macbook C2Ds
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Hi all,
The script from Martin Koßler works nice, but doesn't work on a Hibernate
action.
A better working solution for all runlevels, Hibernate and Suspend is to place
the script in /ect/init.d/hdd-shutdown-workaround and softlink it to
/etc/rcS.d/S99hdd-shutdown-workaround with the command:
Thanks a lot Martin.
The problem seems resolved.
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Will these be merged to Ubuntu kernel:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.scsi/30489
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ide/17392
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Martin, thanks a lot for that tip! It shuts down nice and quietly now,
using that /sys setting.
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Martin or Tormod, can you guys e-mail that script to me? I'm still pretty new
to Linux and I'm not exactly sure how I would go about writing a script to do
such a command.
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Simply write a file at /etc/rc0.d/S00hdd-shutdown-workaround which
includes this two lines:
#!/bin/sh
echo 1 /sys/class/scsi_disk/0\:0\:0\:0/stop_on_shutdown
If you have more than one directory at /sys/class/scsi_disk/ try to
find out which of it is your internal harddisk (e.g. cat
Thanks, Martin.
I created the script... but stupid me, I'm running Ubuntu Edgy which doesn't
have the stop_on_shutdown patch implemented.
Is it possible for someone to send me the patch, or do I have to upgrade the
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The noise that is being described sounds just like a disk-head being
parked (these are the same laptop drives that say drive may rattle,
this is normal on the label), and I'd be more worried if it /wasn't/
hasn't the disk-heads. It's quite satisfying to know that the heads
have been 'clicked'
Same for me on my Samsung X11 (HD: HM100JC)
I managed it with a script in /etc/rc0.d/ which writes 1 to
/sys/class/scsi_disk/0:0:0:0/stop_on_shutdown but this should only be
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FS V2030 with Samsung SATA drive HM040HI.
Kubuntu Edgy 6.10 kernel 2.6.17-11-generic.
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Still the same with mine as well: Toshiba Satellite M55-S3314 on
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2.6.20-14-generic #2 SMP i686 GNU/Linux
(Samsung P35 - HHD Samsung HM100JC 100gb)
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I reopen the bug, because nothing has changed on my Acer, unfortunately
not with 2.6.20-14-generic either.
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Are we in a holding pattern on this patch (i.e., are we waiting for the
next kernel release) or do you know? I've been updating feisty all the
way to this morning, and still no change. Wonder if this is going to
come out on 2.6.22 or something?
Just heard that Ubuntu Feisty beta is available. Is the bug fixed in
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Fixed in mainstream http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.scsi/30489 .
Lot of infrastructure here, probably 2.6.22 stuff? Please note that the
FULL fix will need shutdown(8) modifies, as described here
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ide/17392 .
In the same message is described a meantime
** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu)
Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released
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Tried 2.6.20-13-generic (which has the stop_on_shutdown) on an Acer
TravelMate 8101, and it still makes that ugly, loud sound at shutdown.
BTW the sound has nothing to do with the little rattle that comes when
the disk hasn't been used for a while (for instance after halting in
grub), which I
I was promised that a fix will eventually arrive. It would take longer
because a code refactory of the libata layer was in program.
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Patch for stop_on_shutdown was added. This bug isn't very critical, IMO.
The bug is just annoying, there's no danger to the drives (no matter how
the thing sounds when it stops).
** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.20 (Ubuntu)
Assignee: Ubuntu Kernel Team = Ben Collins
Status: Confirmed =
you can still use the 2.6.15 kernel; works fine on my edgy and shutdown
is done properly.
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