[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
I'm closing this report because the issue is fixed for the original reporter. Other users with different graphics card/hardware/driver may experience all kind of different issues with similar symptoms. Please file a new report instead. Thanks for your help to make Ubuntu better. ** Changed in: plymouth (Ubuntu Natty) Status: Incomplete = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
@german - Are you using the default Nouveau driver or the proprietary NVIDIA driver? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
I keep having the same problem. It hangs when booting. My model of NVIDIA card is a Geforce 7300 GT. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
@anujahooja 260 and 270 drivers are compatible with your graphics card according to nvidia :) i have 270.30 installed from ubuntu archive... Suggest that u try what Robbie told :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
@Ercin I looked into 270 drivers for the G210M and the only one I could find was the 270.18, but it's only for AMD. I'm currently running an x86_64 machine. Is there a compatibility page for the 270.30 I can see? Thanks for the help! :) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
check it on synaptic :) nvidia-current is the driver -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
Awesome! Thanks, Ercin! It worked on Natty Beta 1 for you? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
Never mind - it worked! Thanks Ercin! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
@anujahooja Please use the approved proprietary driver we provide via the Additional Drivers application from within the system settings. You can also launch this application from the command line by typing: sudo jockey-gtk We cannot be responsible nor effectively debug systems using drivers we have not provided, sorry. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
@robbie Unfortunately my video card isn't compatible with the recommended proprietary driver. It's been an issue since 9.10 for me - I've been using the one I referenced earlier and worked fine for 9.10 and 10.04. I'll try and debug myself, thanks anyways! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
Hung yesterday after installing the proprietary NVIDIA driver for the GeForce G210M on my Sony Vaio VPCCW17FD. Driver downloaded here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display- ia32-260.19.44-driver.html Side Note: This driver worked properly on Lucid, but had problems in Maverick. In Maverick it never hung, it just didn't configure for 3D graphics; for Natty it hangs completely at the Plymouth bootsplash. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
i think its something to do with uvesafb when i use video=uvesafb:mode_option=1600x900-24,mtrr=3,scroll=ywrap in the command live the console isnt shown and when i switch from x to a terminal it locks up when i remove that from boot it words but not pretty with a big screen :( -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
Hello In Ubuntu 20110402 amd64 the proposed nvidia driver (270.30-0ubuntu3) are working fine. Is there someone that still affecting ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
I think I may be seeing this issue - upgraded to 11.04 today have nvidia drivers (MSI 7253 m/board) and can't get it to boot - if I use gfxpayload=text it appears to get further but still doesn't complete boot - stopping after scripts/init-bottom. I have two ubuntu installations on the same disk Same prob with both recovery mode and normal mode - or is this diff and need to open new bug? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
I have the latest nvidia driver working fine with my amd64 64bit Ubuntu Desktop installation. Can someone please confirm this bug still exists. ** Changed in: plymouth (Ubuntu Natty) Status: Confirmed = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
[ 1074.272314] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. [ 1074.272322] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint [ 1075.357137] NVRM: The NVIDIA probe routine was not called for 1 device(s). [ 1075.357146] NVRM: This can occur when a driver such as nouveau, rivafb, [ 1075.357151] NVRM: nvidiafb, or rivatv was loaded and obtained ownership of [ 1075.357155] NVRM: the NVIDIA device(s). [ 1075.357161] NVRM: Try unloading the conflicting kernel module (and/or [ 1075.357165] NVRM: reconfigure your kernel without the conflicting [ 1075.357169] NVRM: driver(s)), then try loading the NVIDIA kernel module [ 1075.357173] NVRM: again. [ 1075.357177] NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics adapter probed! Seems related. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
** Changed in: plymouth (Ubuntu Natty) Assignee: (unassigned) = Canonical Foundations Team (canonical-foundations) ** Changed in: plymouth (Ubuntu Natty) Status: Incomplete = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
Excuse me if not relevant, but I tried Natty for the 1st time today (using daily build), and seemed to work OK until I selected hardware drivers available (Nvidia on AMD64x4 hardware using the 386 iso). On re-boot system hangs at 'Ubuntu (dot-dot-dot' logo). Couldn't to a error report 'cus no system :-( Sorry Doug -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
@Doug the nvidia driver is currently broken in Natty, see Bug #711409 you should be able to boot in recovery mode and rename file /etc/X11/xorg.conf (e.g. /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup) this should allow to boot the system using the fallback nouveau video driver, at least thats how it worked for me. we have to wait till bug #711409 is fixed. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
I tried installing the nvidia drivers on an up-to-date natty system, and everything worked more or less perfectly (plymouth wasn't at a particularly great resolution, but it did display fsck output, and X came up fine). We've been working on a number of graphical boot problems, and it's possible that we managed to fix this one by accident. Can you undo the GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text workaround, rerun update-grub, upgrade everything (especially grub-pc, the kernel, and plymouth) to current natty, and try again? Feel free to set this bug back to Confirmed if it's still broken, and we can figure out what to investigate next. ** Changed in: plymouth (Ubuntu Natty) Status: Confirmed = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
** Also affects: plymouth (Ubuntu Natty) Importance: High Status: Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
Well, yes, of course, the point of gfxpayload=keep is to eliminate the phase when the console is in text mode at boot. :-) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
I apologise - I misspoke earlier. Could you please try GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text (not keep) in /etc/default/grub and run update-grub? Your comments about this depending on what GRUB does to the display suggest to me that this will probably work. ** Changed in: plymouth (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
(I do have a spare nvidia system here, so I'll see what I can reproduce locally.) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
Hello Colin This line fix the issue, also plymouth now show right dimension of characters, before they was too big. Only things that between grub menu and plymouth we have, for some seconds a blinking cursor. Thanks Fabio -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
Update: I found a switch, during grub screen if I press a key, bug appear (with two disks), but if I lay pass the delay time byself, system boot correctly. If I have just one disk with one ubuntu, bug appear because grub delay is set to 0. Now I dpn't have time to install more systems, tomorrow or saturday i'll do it, can you give me some suggestion to point this pig ? Thanks Fabio -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
still present in 20101215 amd64 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
Update: Bug is reproducible in this cases: One ubuntu at disk, if we have two ubuntu on the same disk it don't affect, but if we have two ubuntu on two disk (one at disk) bug appear. Thanks Fabio -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
Does it make a difference if you set GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep in /etc/default/grub and run 'sudo update-grub'? (Speculation: plymouth has trouble dealing with the framebuffer type changing in mid-flight.) ** Changed in: plymouth (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete ** Changed in: plymouth (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = High -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
Hello Colin. The suggested line don't fix this issue, but i've found that this bug is reproducible only if we have one operating system in the disk,becouse if we have two ubuntu (regarding one ubuntu and one windows i don't know) on the same disk , then grub menu appear, this issue don't happen and everythings works. Tomorrow i'm going to test with two Ubuntu on two disks (one at disk). This on 20101206 amd64 Thanks Fabio -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 684083] Re: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1
** Summary changed: - Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty 20101202 + Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 ** Description changed: Binary package hint: plymouth - Hello - Natty 20101202 amd64 + HelloNatty 20101202 amd64 Installing propetary nvidia driver cause Plymouth hang, it start, then black screen and never goes on. - From grub menu deleting quiet and splash fix the problem and the login screen appear. + From grub menu deleting quiet and splash fix the problem and the login screen appear.* Fabio - ProblemType: Bug - DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 + ProblemType: BugDistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: plymouth 0.8.2-2ubuntu6 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.37-7.19-generic 2.6.37-rc3 Uname: Linux 2.6.37-7-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Architecture: amd64 Date: Thu Dec 2 11:41:22 2010 - DefaultPlymouth: /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo.plymouth - InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal - Alpha amd64 (20101202) + DefaultPlymouth: /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo.plymouthInstallationMedia: Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal - Alpha amd64 (20101202) Lsusb: - Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub - Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0718:0628 Imation Corp. - Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub + Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub + Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0718:0628 Imation Corp. + Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub ProcEnviron: - LANG=it_IT.utf8 - SHELL=/bin/bash + LANG=it_IT.utf8 + SHELL=/bin/bash ProcFB: - - ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37-7-generic root=UUID=46111216-ce23-4c42-b3fd-38bc69b623aa ro - SourcePackage: plymouth + + ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37-7-generic root=UUID=46111216-ce23-4c42-b3fd-38bc69b623aa roSourcePackage: plymouth TextPlymouth: /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-text/ubuntu-text.plymouth dmi.bios.date: 11/03/2005 dmi.bios.vendor: American Megatrends Inc. dmi.bios.version: P1.50 dmi.board.asset.tag: dmi.board.name: K8NF4G-SATA2 dmi.board.version: 1.00 dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnAmericanMegatrendsInc.:bvrP1.50:bd11/03/2005:svn:pnK8NF4G-SATA2:pvr1.00:rvn:rnK8NF4G-SATA2:rvr1.00: dmi.product.name: K8NF4G-SATA2 dmi.product.version: 1.00 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/684083 Title: Plymouth hangs after installation of nvidia drivers on natty alpha1 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
