Re: Empty Create Document menu
On 30/10/2008, Matthew East [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:38 PM, A. Walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally have no problem seeing Ubuntu ship a few default templates in /etc/skel/. From my GNOME point of view, I think it'd be a healthy thing to do, and I think distros have the good sense to manage what they put in there, even though it's not recommended. This is the problem right here. I think it's pretty uncontestable, for the reasons that Michael Meeks states on the Gnome mailing list thread, that having some templates in ~/Templates by default would improve enormously the user experience. So, it's a valid bug. But, it's been closed by the Ubuntu developer because we have one Gnome developer, not even the nautilus maintainers, with a loud voice on a thread on the Gnome mailing list saying it's a bad idea because he doesn't trust distributors to do a good job to maintain a healthy list of templates. It seems plain to me having read the thread that the correct approach here is for distros to take responsibility for this and ship some templates in ~/Templates by default (whether using /etc/skel or other technical means). It's only distros who have control over whether that list of templates will get cluttered or not, so it's distros who can keep it clean. I think closing the bug was the wrong decision and I really hope that it can be reconsidered as a potential feature for Ubuntu 9.04. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop +1 -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Empty Create Document menu
2008/10/30 Matthew East [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems plain to me having read the thread that the correct approach here is for distros to take responsibility for this and ship some templates in ~/Templates by default (whether using /etc/skel or other technical means). It's only distros who have control over whether that list of templates will get cluttered or not, so it's distros who can keep it clean. I think that Matthew is totally right: the responsability is on distros to handle a correct list of templates, regarding application they shipped and maintain it accorded to its evolution. This would provide reasonable default which can hilight this feature for new users and give them a clue on how they can populate the Create Document item. This feature is, to my mind, very powerful, easy to use but unfortunately unknown because of not explaining/guiding people on how to use it. Didier -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Empty Create Document menu
Le jeudi 30 octobre 2008 à 08:30 +, Matthew East a écrit : it's been closed by the Ubuntu developer because we have one Gnome developer, not even the nautilus maintainers, with a loud voice on a Hi, that is a wrong statement, the launchpad nautilus bug has been closed because that's not a nautilus bug and such changes should be discussed on a mailing list where you will get comments on and not a bug tracker. the way to do that would be to copy some templates in the user directory, note that doing that automatically when adding an user has been decided against before because it's specific to GNOME and users doing server installation don't want those template for example. Sebastien Bacher -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Empty Create Document menu
Hi, This is a little offtopic, but... that is a wrong statement, the launchpad nautilus bug has been closed because that's not a nautilus bug and such changes should be discussed on a mailing list where you will get comments on and not a bug tracker. the way to do that would be to copy some templates in the user directory, note that doing that automatically when adding an user has been decided against before because it's specific to GNOME and users doing server installation don't want those template for example. Could we have a different state for this kind of things in Launchpad? A lot of people get offended by invalid, since they assume that the bug is being ignored. For example being discussed with a pointer to the discussion or finding a new home when the bug is not against the correct product and the new one has not been decided yet. Where could I propose this kind of thing? -Mikko -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
