Beautiful stupidity?
I've been reading up on the new design philosophy and it sounded nice until I saw some actual screenshots on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand. Are we really going to move the window buttons (minimize, maximize and close) to the left hand side of the window and then rearrange them? The themes look really nice, but this is going to hurt. Most of us have a strong muscle memory that tells us where those buttons are. New users will feel even more uncomfortable, as this indicates further that their old knowledge from Windows isn't applicable anymore. Most of us are also right handed, which makes the right hand side of the screen a good placement for such a common action. People have suggested for a long time, that Super-L should open the applications menu. I've been against that, since it didn't make sense to begin with. It's stupid to copy Windows' mistakes just in order to be similar, but in my opinion, it's even more stupid to change something good just in order to be different. In my opinion, this is the worst design change since the decision to hide incoming IMs and phone calls from the user, and instead just subtly changing the color of a small icon. One of the things I've always touted when speaking of Ubuntu, is that is looks ok, but that it's really user friendly, and efficient to work with. You get much done by few clicks. Now, when someone calls me, I have to first examine where the sound comes from, then look for the envelope to see if it's light grey or dark grey. Then, if it's dark grey, I have to click it to see if it's just because I've received an email or if someone has sent me an IM while I was away, or if someone, in fact, is calling me right now. If so, then I can open that dialog and then, finally, I can accept the call. And now I'm supposed to retrain my muscles to hit buttons on the other side of the screen, and remember that minimize is now maximize and vice versa? I'm sorry if I come across as overly critical, but this really upsets me. It looks nice, but it's a pain to work with. Please prioritize functionality before aesthetics. My two cents, Jo-Erlend Schinstad -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Review of featured applications
Hello, I think that not including Battle for Wesnoth would be a shame. This is a very complete game with a lot of available content and it is translated into many languages and you can even download extra scenarios! Moreover, Wesnoth starts with a tutorial game that explains the basics of the game mechanics in an easily understandable way. Although not everyone might be interested in an RTS game, the same applies to FPS games. It is good to show that there is a wide variety of good and complete games available for Linux. Regards, -- Sense Hofstede [ˈsɛn.sə ˈɦɔf.steːdə] -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Beautiful stupidity?
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.com wrote: Are we really going to move the window buttons (minimize, maximize and close) to the left hand side of the window and then rearrange them? It appears those screenshots were outdated. Quoting Ars Technica [1]: When we posted screenshots from the design documents yesterday, the placement of the window titlebar buttons in the Metacity theme proved to be one of the most controversial issues. Many of our readers expressed that they disliked the button arrangement and positioning along the left-hand side of the titlebar. The critics will be pleased to learn that the titlebar buttons are located in their usual place on the right-hand side in the official theme packages. Gabriel [1] http://arstechnica.com/open-source/reviews/2010/03/hands-on-a-close-look-at-ubuntus-new-non-brown-theme.ars -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Beautiful stupidity?
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Gabriel Burt gabriel.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.com wrote: Are we really going to move the window buttons (minimize, maximize and close) to the left hand side of the window and then rearrange them? It appears those screenshots were outdated. Quoting Ars Technica [1]: When we posted screenshots from the design documents yesterday, the placement of the window titlebar buttons in the Metacity theme proved to be one of the most controversial issues. Many of our readers expressed that they disliked the button arrangement and positioning along the left-hand side of the titlebar. The critics will be pleased to learn that the titlebar buttons are located in their usual place on the right-hand side in the official theme packages. Gabriel [1] http://arstechnica.com/open-source/reviews/2010/03/hands-on-a-close-look-at-ubuntus-new-non-brown-theme.ars I guess I should have read the rest of the article: Although the designers decided to keep the buttons on the right, the order was changed. and Update: In a new package updated that was rolled out this morning, the titlebar buttons were moved to the left-hand side of the window. You can now resume complaining. Gabriel -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
gnome-system-tools and a bug fix
Hi. Bug #433654 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/433654) is about audio not working properly on karmic and lucid when multiple users are used (one user gets to the audio device first and no one else can use it). Eventually it was figured out that if users aren't part of the audio group and consolekit is installed everything works properly. However, the defaults for a desktop user and an administrator users is to have them in the audio group which causes this problem. However, if consolekit isn't installed, you have to be part of the audio group to play sound. However, ubuntu-desktop depends on consolekit so it is rather reasonable to assume that it will be installed. So, to fix the bug, should the default administrator and desktop users be removed from the audio group? (This was basically asked at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+question/103004 , but it hasn't been answered yet, and I doubt the people who would know the answer have seen it.) Thanks, Erik B. Andersen -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
gnome-system-tools and a bug fix
Hi. Bug #433654 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/433654) is about audio not working properly on karmic and lucid when multiple users are used (one user gets to the audio device first and no one else can use it). Eventually it was figured out that if users aren't part of the audio group and consolekit is installed everything works properly. However, the defaults for a desktop user and an administrator users is to have them in the audio group which causes this problem. However, if consolekit isn't installed, you have to be part of the audio group to play sound. However, ubuntu-desktop depends on consolekit so it is rather reasonable to assume that it will be installed. So, to fix the bug, should the default administrator and desktop users be removed from the audio group? (This was basically asked at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+question/103004 , but it hasn't been answered yet, and I doubt the people who would know the answer have seen it.) Thanks, Erik B. Andersen -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
